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That sounds like absolute bullshit because sword is not a fucking container otherwise kitetsu blades that have been around centuries would hurt Enel.

Though one thing makes sense is that Enma is used to Oden's Haki hence why one who can weild Enma needs to have Haki comparable to Oden aka top tier Haki which is why Scabbards things they will turn into Husk the moment yet their Haki is strong enough to hurt kaido.

Goes to show you how Godly Zoro's Haki is, probably top 3/top 5 CoA users in the world already.
So let me get this straight. Oda has stressed the significance of Ryou to a Swordsman to high hell and back this arc.

Haki/Ryou is the Embodiment of a persons spirit.

Swords retain the spirit of the user.

The significance of Ryou to a Swordsman, and the Spirit of a Swordsman in their sword is completely unrelated and makes no sense?

:okay:
 
Exactly what I have been arguing for months. That Enma has retained Oden's haki. A Swordsman's spirit is retained in his sword. Haki is the embodiment of a users spirit. Oden had been pouring his Haki into Enma for decades. 2+2=4

The key to a black blade is becoming more and more apparent.
Oh ok? Why didn't he make Enma black then and what about other top tiers?
 
He used the scythe as a weapon but its not even his main weapon why would he train with it? He has no reason to.
Why does Zoro train with weights if you uses swords to fight? To grow stronger.

Just because scythe aren't his made weapons doesn't mean he can't take the time and opportunity to train with them to grow stronger.

He is a fast and agile fighter that use circular motion to increase the strength to his attacks. We saw how even with the scythes his fighting style didn't really change. Which means he could train with those weapons to make himself a stronger, faster, and more agile fighter.

Besides, he was still fighting to protect his captain so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't want to be at his best to increase his chances.
 
So let me get this straight. Oda has stressed the significance of Ryou to a Swordsman to high hell and back this arc.

Haki/Ryou is the Embodiment of a persons spirit.

Swords retain the spirit of the user.

The significance of Ryou to a Swordsman, and the Spirit of a Swordsman in their sword is completely unrelated and makes no sense?

:okay:
That's just figurative speaking. It just means that Oden's will reside in that sword, and Zoro, who now carries the will of Oden, will cut Kaidou's head. It's like saying Luffy has Roger, Ace's haki because he carries their will/spirit :josad:
 

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𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
He uses a short blade of energy to atack the dude's insides dosent he?

Tell me why that dosent work if his DF can deny durability, im still waiting, try not to avoid the topic now.
:sadgrin:
Law's amputate ignores conventional durability; the hardness/density of the object doesn't affect how easily Law can cut through an object. Haki can still defend against amputate.

Gamma Knife deals damage to organs and doesn't ignore conventional durability in a similar manner.


It is stated GK leaves no external wounds but that doesn't mean it bypasses durability

Basically there would be no reason for Law to go through all that preparation (faking his death and all) just to use an attack which ignores defense.
We know Law could hit DD with other attacks before but we waited until DD had no defense up to use the attack
Attacks that ignore conventional durability can still be blocked by haki.


For Law does Redon mean Radio Knife? He just randomly threw Gamma Knife in the mix like it was some casual attack. Didn't even mention who Law attacked, what the context was, etc...
Lol, this is just plain wishful thinking.


Zoro>Law. And most likely Zoro>Kidd too sempai, though I am willing to wait on that one and currently have them on the same level.
Given current feats (vs Apoo, vs Kaido) Zoro > Kidd babe. It's Kidd that needs to show he's on par with Zoro.



Wano Zoro was nationally wanted Sanji was not, quite a big difference. Everyone in Wano knew who Zoro was, only the people in flower capital knew who Sanji was
The Flower Capital was the only place in Wano that mattered, so being wanted outside it is irrelevant.


Didnt i say since Enma training though? Meaning since he trained with Enma, taming the curse or balancing his haki and whatnot. he didnt get the fire-cutting technique skill before that. Not that Enma magically gave him fire-cutting tech .
Nah, Zoro could cut fire before he received Enma. He copied the technique after seeing Kinemon perform it in Punk Hazard, it just never came up before now.


i don't think shes stronger than shanks...
just because both mihawk and shanks and big mom are swordsman doesn't mean that mihawk is stronger than them.
shanks likely fights in other ways.
What utter nonsense.
:odenugh:


you completely missed the point...
zoro is a a better swordsman than Big Mom
Big Mom still washes zoro.
so you claiming that mihawk is stronger than shanks because shanks is a swordsman is a dumb argument
so yea it does fail.
  • Mihawk is the strongest swordsman not the best swordsman.
  • Big Mom is a stronger swordsman than Zoro.


When have we seen shanks fight?
thats right...never
did you just make up the fact that shanks only fights with a sword?:gokulaugh:
What the canon shows is that Shanks is a swordsman; everything else is poor fanfic.


This chapter he got even better feats
It's too early to conclude that his speed feat is better this chapter. We don't know:
  • If Zoro neutralised all the wind blades or only those directed at him and/or Luffy.
  • If Zoro physically cut through them, or intercepted them with air slashes
  • How fast the wind blades are.
It's a great COO feat from Zoro though, given that none of the Scabbards noticed the attack until it was too late.


What's this?
:choppawhat:
 
put it aside, at least his durability wasnt nerfed and zoro one shoted him
we know jozu blocked one of his slashes like nothing, to test the distance between them.
he doesn't compare
Jozu is literally a diamond, the toughest material known in the verse, yet he took some moment to completely neutralize the attack and it still left bruises on him lol
 
So let me get this straight. Oda has stressed the significance of Ryou to a Swordsman to high hell and back this arc.

Haki/Ryou is the Embodiment of a persons spirit.

Swords retain the spirit of the user.

The significance of Ryou to a Swordsman, and the Spirit of a Swordsman in their sword is completely unrelated and makes no sense?

:okay:
Well Ryou is meant to be Flow of Haki, swordsmen flow their Haki into their blades, Luffy, Ray etc flow it out in form of shockwaves. Though I think top flow users like Ryuma, Mihawk, Rayleigh, Roger, Shanks can probably do all applications of Ryou.

Now when Sworsdman coats blade with their Ryou, their blade becomes one with them unless blade becomes permanently black, then I guess blade becomes one with the sword master permanently.

I don't think Oden's Ryou being carried through Enma makes sense the very first time Zoro picked up Enma, it sucked Ryou from Zoro, too much which only makes sense if Enma is used to getting insane amounts of Ryou from Oden and Zoro at the moment didn't have Ryou reserves to give Enma the amount of Ryou it craves.

I don't think "Spirit" the sword carries is Haki lol, though its just general will thing, swords carry will of blade master I guess in a same way Luffy's straw hat carries will of Roger, didn't Rayleigh see Roger in Luffy?
 
Law's amputate ignores conventional durability; the hardness/density of the object doesn't affect how easily Law can cut through an object. Haki can still defend against amputate.

Gamma Knife deals damage to organs and doesn't ignore conventional durability in a similar manner.



Attacks that ignore conventional durability can still be blocked by haki.



Lol, this is just plain wishful thinking.



Given current feats (vs Apoo, vs Kaido) Zoro > Kidd babe. It's Kidd that needs to show he's on par with Zoro.




The Flower Capital was the only place in Wano that mattered, so being wanted outside it is irrelevant.



Nah, Zoro could cut fire before he received Enma. He copied the technique after seeing Kinemon perform it in Punk Hazard, it just never came up before now.



What utter nonsense.
:odenugh:



  • Mihawk is the strongest swordsman not the best swordsman.
  • Big Mom is a stronger swordsman than Zoro.



What the canon shows is that Shanks is a swordsman; everything else is poor fanfic.



It's too early to conclude that his speed feat is better this chapter. We don't know:
  • If Zoro neutralised all the wind blades or only those directed at him and/or Luffy.
  • If Zoro physically cut through them, or intercepted them with air slashes
  • How fast the wind blades are.
It's a great COO feat from Zoro though, given that none of the Scabbards noticed the attack until it was too late.



What's this?
:choppawhat:
Correct Me If I'm Wrong
 
So let me get this straight. Oda has stressed the significance of Ryou to a Swordsman to high hell and back this arc.

Haki/Ryou is the Embodiment of a persons spirit.

Swords retain the spirit of the user.

The significance of Ryou to a Swordsman, and the Spirit of a Swordsman in their sword is completely unrelated and makes no sense?

:okay:
Bro what are you saying. So what if their spirits in the sword. Sabo implied Ace spirit was in the mera mera fruit. Are you saying that previous users make the sword perma black? If so your wrong.
 

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Zoro has been protecting everyone in wano. Here's a list:

O-tsuru
Luffy
O-kikunojo
Luffy and O-tama
Komainu
Yasuie(At Yakuza house)
O-toko and Hiyori
O-toko (again) at Flower Capital
Hiyori (again) at Flower Capital
Hiyori (again) at Enma Shrine
Luffy (again)
Samurai
Chopper
Luffy (again)
Luffy (again)
Worst Generation
(Luffy again)




Zoro is their savior.:zosmug::zosmug::zosmug:
 
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I haven’t been downplaying zoro tho.... I literally said this thread that y’all are biased. Law killer kidd luffy attack but somehow zoro is “carrying”.
Don't fuckin lie
I may be wrong since I don’t have viz but that doesn’t matter since zoro only fainted because killers wound. He wouldn’t faint otherwise since he was fine before
If this is not downplay, than what is?

You're not even sure of the info, but your first reaction is not to give Zoro the benefit of doubt or to listen to other Zoro fan who are showing the official, but to fckin carry on with the downplay.

Your not a zoro fan, your a hypocrite.
 
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