Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

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Lukegranders

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Cinera said:
Law's amputate ignores conventional durability; the hardness/density of the object doesn't affect how easily Law can cut through an object. Haki can still defend against amputate.

Gamma Knife deals damage to organs and doesn't ignore conventional durability in a similar manner.



Attacks that ignore conventional durability can still be blocked by haki.



Lol, this is just plain wishful thinking.



Given current feats (vs Apoo, vs Kaido) Zoro > Kidd babe. It's Kidd that needs to show he's on par with Zoro.




The Flower Capital was the only place in Wano that mattered, so being wanted outside it is irrelevant.



Nah, Zoro could cut fire before he received Enma. He copied the technique after seeing Kinemon perform it in Punk Hazard, it just never came up before now.



What utter nonsense.
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  • Mihawk is the strongest swordsman not the best swordsman.
  • Big Mom is a stronger swordsman than Zoro.



What the canon shows is that Shanks is a swordsman; everything else is poor fanfic.



It's too early to conclude that his speed feat is better this chapter. We don't know:
  • If Zoro neutralised all the wind blades or only those directed at him and/or Luffy.
  • If Zoro physically cut through them, or intercepted them with air slashes
  • How fast the wind blades are.
It's a great COO feat from Zoro though, given that none of the Scabbards noticed the attack until it was too late.



What's this?
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Addressing shanks there’s no proof he is a swordsman.

Oda even said this

“ shanks has a sword named the griffon But how does he actually fight?

he said that already literally implying shanks ain’t a swordsman like mihawk is.

Oda then after 24 years refuses to say himself shanks is a swordsman

Then he constantly gives shanks hype and better portrayal then mihawk.
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Punpun said:
Don't fuckin lie

If this is not downplay, than what is?

You're not even sure of the info, but your first reaction is not to give Zoro the benefit of doubt or to listen to other Zoro fan who are showing the official, but to fckin carry on with the downplay.

Your not a zoro fan, your a hypocrite.
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Lmao what?
 
ShishioIsBack

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Lukegranders said:
Addressing shanks there’s no proof he is a swordsman.

Oda even said this

“ shanks has a sword named the griffon But how does he actually fight?

he said that already literally implying shanks ain’t a swordsman like mihawk is.

Oda then after 24 years refuses to say himself shanks is a swordsman

Then he constantly gives shanks hype and better portrayal then mihawk.
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Lmao what?
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You are a die hard Sanjitard aren't you?
 
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Sword God Ryuma

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Lukegranders said:
Addressing shanks there’s no proof he is a swordsman.

Oda even said this

“ shanks has a sword named the griffon But how does he actually fight?

he said that already literally implying shanks ain’t a swordsman like mihawk is.

Oda then after 24 years refuses to say himself shanks is a swordsman

Then he constantly gives shanks hype and better portrayal then mihawk.
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Lmao what?
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Shanks has no better potrayal. Shanks is under Mihawk
 
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Geo

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Celestial D. Dragon said:
And what exactly is Haki?



Thought you were onto something with the Kawamatsu statement, but man that couldn't have backfired any worse.
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Give it up.
All swords contain the will of users and this is something Zoro fans have been stating since the very beginning when same users like you were laughing at them etc. And yet here you are claiming the same thing acting like it is something new

PS; Will doesn't necessarily mean haki
 
Kuruka

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Cinera said:
  • Mihawk is the strongest swordsman not the best swordsman.
  • Big Mom is a stronger swordsman than Zoro.

What the canon shows is that Shanks is a swordsman; everything else is poor fanfic.
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pointless distinctions and the canon hasn't shown anything of shanks canon ability in a real fight. youre using headcannon.
you heard it here first people mihawk strongest in the verse.
imacub said:
put it aside, at least his durability wasnt nerfed and zoro one shoted him


Jozu is literally a diamond, the toughest material known in the verse, yet he took some moment to completely neutralize the attack and it still left bruises on him lol
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I can't believe people are actually argueing mihawk may be stronger than prime roger :whitepress:
mihawk will never show any feats close to what roger has done.
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Guymieux said:
No there isn’t .
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2 piece? :suresure:
 
stairs-kun

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stairs-kun said:
Zoro has been protecting everyone in wano. Here's a list:

O-tsuru
Luffy
O-kikunojo
Luffy and O-tama
Komainu
Yasuie(At Yakuza house)
O-toko and Hiyori
O-toko (again) at Flower Capital
Hiyori (again) at Flower Capital
Hiyori (again) at Enma Shrine
Luffy (again)
Samurai
Chopper
Luffy (again)
Luffy (again)
Worst Generation
(Luffy again)




Zoro is their savior.:zosmug::zosmug::zosmug:
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Spittin'
 
ShishioIsBack

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Kuruka said:
I can't believe people are actually argueing mihawk may be stronger than prime roger :whitepress:
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what in the actual fuck is wrong with Mihawk being stronger than Roger?
Roger was as pure a swordsman as pure swordsman gets, way more pure than Zoro who is a demon generating 9 arms and fucking with people psychologically.

Yet he was neither strong enough for the World to recognize him as stronger than all other swordsmen nor was his CoA strong enough to make a black blade.
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Lukegranders said:
He literally does bud. You can cry or cope idc shanks has better portrayal then mihawk by a large margin.
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You literally don't know what portrayal means if you think that.
 
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Geo said:
Being able to hurt him is different from being able to scar him. Giving that Kaido healed from Luffy's adCOA, it implies that it takes something more than internal destruction to permanently scar Kaido like Oden did
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What are you talking about. Luffy punches and Oden cuts.
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Lukegranders said:
He literally does bud. You can cry or cope idc shanks has better portrayal then mihawk by a large margin.
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Weaker swordsman
 
Cinera

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Given that Luffy is using Kong Rifle and Kong Gun Gatling, and that Law is using Gamma Knife, I would guess that Kidd is also using his upper tier techniques.

Zoro on the other hand has been more impressive than Kidd while using at best mid tier techniques (Homurasaki, Rengoku Oni Giri and Flying Dragon: Fire Blaze) without hardening. Let alone all out Zoro > Kidd. A Santoryu Zoro that has just been warming up already seems to be the stronger combatant. Zoro's mid tier technique this chapter triggered Kaido's Oden PTSD. That's the only reaction to a Supernova attack that made it to the Spoilers. Given the information available, it seems Flying Dragon: Fire Blaze was more impactful than Slam Gibson.

Their performance vs Apoo already made me think Zoro was the more capable fighter, but this fight is making me suspect the gap was larger than I previously thought (I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the fight I argue that Santoryu Zoro is considerably stronger than Kidd).

It appears that Zoro's performance gap with Kidd will only grow as he begins to use his upper tier techniques and hardening in future chapters.


@Haoshoku, @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @HexBozoline, @Light D Lamperouge, @ReggieZoldyck21, @rerere.
 
ShishioIsBack

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Cinera said:
Given that Luffy is using Kong Rifle and Kong Gun Gatling, and that Law is using Gamma Knife, I would guess that Kidd is also using his upper tier techniques.

Zoro on the other hand has been more impressive than Kidd while using at best mid tier techniques (Rengoku Oni Giri and Flying Dragon: Fire Blaze) without hardening. Let alone all out Zoro > Kidd. A Santoryu Zoro that has just been warming up already seems to be the stronger combatant. Zoro's mid tier technique this chapter triggered Kaido's Oden PTSD. That's the only reaction to a Supernova attack that made it to the Spoilers. Given the information available, it seems Flying Dragon: Fire Blaze was more impactful than Slam Gibson.

Their performance vs Apoo already made me think Zoro was the more capable fighter, but this fight is making me suspect the gap was larger than I previously thought (I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the fight I argue that Santoryu Zoro is considerably stronger than Kidd).

It appears that Zoro's performance gap with Kidd will only grow as he begins to use his upper tier techniques and hardening in future chapters.


@Haoshoku, @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @HexBozoline, @Light D Lamperouge, @ReggieZoldyck21, @rerere.
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Zoro is a top tier
Kidd is a high tier
Of course gap is big
 
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