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I mean Kaido stated to see Oden in Zoro's sword. I don't see how people can possibly take that literally when the idea of a soul living inside a sword is just that far fetched. The only solid interpretation dictates that Zoro is wielding Enma in a similar way Oden was.
So DF'S possibly having actual devils in them but good lord no to a sword?
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
The scabbards have Oden's ryou.
Kaido sees Oden's shadow in Luffy.
Now we jave Enma possessing Oden's Soul/Haki/Presence or whatever.
All that's left now is for Zoro or Momonosuke to awaken Oden as a Stand just so he could kill Kaido with his hands.
The f*ck! Let the man rest in peace in his grave damnit.
Wank from beyond the grave.
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And you are under the incorrect assumption that he COULD dodge Red Roc or kong gatling when they caught him by surprise, sounding like zorotardy Luffy downplay.
  • Kaido did not try to dodge or block those attacks.
  • Big Mom did not warn Kaido about those attacks.

Except he didn't feel the need to dodge. That's the point he was TOLD to dodge it.
  • He still dodged the attack
  • It was the only attack that terrified Big Mom.

Oda is inconsistent with drawing hardening
No he's not.

Zoro probably is using colorless barrier ryuo which is stronger than hardening anyway even if it isn't an inconsistency.
Is that why when Zoro uses hardening is attack is suddenly so powerful it terrifies a Yonkou?
 
No it does not seem that way it is that way he saw it with his own eyes stop reading 2 piece
We talking about the us the reader.
Did you read the quote that start this whole thing .
The person said that luffy look mess up after 2 chapters .
The other poster gave a eg of luffy looking really mess up after a short while in the fight with Kat .
I also gave a eg of luffy looking mess up but the point was it did not really matter what he look like or what characters say about him .
We the readers should know better than judging things by how mess up he look or what other characters say .
 
G3 has a downside but you think Asura doesn't? lol. It could be stamina, movement speed or a host of other reasons why he doesn't spam it in certain situations, if he needs to focus on speed and cutting penetration a shishisonson is better. If he needs maximum power he might use ISDS, how can he spin his arms in ISDS mode if he is in asura with fake arms that can't rotate like that. How is he going to brace his arm to channel all his haki into Enma in santoryu?
Asura is not something he simply applies to his base techniques, he has specific techniques in Asura.
He blitzed Kaku with Ashura bro.
 
An Opper mid tier attack from Zoro
So he's still got low, mid, upper high tier, low, mid and upper top tier attacks stronger than this attack in your world?
Sounds like more zorotardy Luffy downplay.
You have no idea of Zoro's current moveset hierarchy, Zoro thought this attack was the best for the job, it relied on Enma's ability hence ittoryu and he was huffing afterwards. Would Zoro be dead after unleashing a top top tier attack ? (and take 2 chapters to charge it, and get easily dodged)
 

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We talking about the us the reader.
Did you read the quote that start this whole thing .
The person said that luffy look mess up after 2 chapter .
The other poster gave a eg of luffy looking really mess up after a short while in the fight with Kat .
I also gave a eg of luffy looking mess up but the point was it did not really matter what he look like or what characters say about him .
We the readers should know better than judging this just by how mess up he look or what other characters say .
Then you are reading 2 piece and ignoring information that oda is giving you
 
Oden is not a devil, he a dead man. I could understand a zombie, but nothing in the manga remotely suggests something like a dead man living inside a sword is possible.
This is a series that stresses the importance of Will of their characters.
And I wasn't saying Oden is a devil but rather saying if one is ok but not the other, seems hypocritical.
 

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Imagine Zoro seriously wounding Kaido if not even killing him, turning the blade black in the process (thus surpassing Oden) and after that remembering Mihawk and saying to himself "I'm catching up to you" or "soon I can face you".

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The time for Zoro to unlock the black blade is definitely arriving. It will take a while overall, I think by the time he forges the black blade his power level will finally be extremely close to Mihawk's in one of the worst possible scenarios. Hopefully it will occur soon enough. For this one arc I expect Zoro to go all out and finally reveal what the TS training truly was about.
 
Imagine Zoro seriously wounding Kaido if not even killing him, turning the blade black in the process (thus surpassing Oden) and after that remembering Mihawk and saying to himself "I'm catching up to you" or "soon I can face you".

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That's probably what's gonna happen.
In Kaido's mind surpassing Mihawk is far higher than cutting the "So called" World's Strongest Creature.

If you asked Zoro who is stronger between Kaido and Mihawk, he'd be like "Are you fucking crazy, Mihawk one shots this lizard"
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Cutting the SO CALLED world's Strongest creature to pieces mind you
 
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