How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Remember when people were saying Kaido>Akaniu
2 Yonkos are needed to use most of their Full power against 5 Supernovas
Papazuki dealing with 16 , while holding back and still cant get damaged
:milaugh::milaugh::akaman:
Kaido of the hostages, make people spread rumors about me being a creature, because I cant become the strongest cuz papzuki and whitebeard are too strong
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yonkos hasnt even used their 5% of power :josad:
 
Oda wants Zoro to be the vice captain. I made the theory that there’s a reason Zoro is fighting In front of Luffy and saving him as opposed to shit like Thriller bark where Zoro fought kuma and saved Luffy without him knowing and without ever telling Luffy what happened.

Zoro is gonna become an official Vice captain at the same time as Luffy becoming an official great pirate (he won’t become a yonko since the system won’t exist and Luffy doesn’t care about that anyway)
Luffy always saw Zoro in that sort of way so this nothing new .
So i don't think this will change much .
 
Tbh i didn't expect G4 to still have a timelimit at this point. At mentioned in this thread, i was expecting for Oda to show Luffy's next level King moves: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/luffys-evolution-on-his-way-to-defeat-kaido.10747/

I still think it'd happen, but with the way Oda still shows Luffy's G4 drawbacks, it doesn't really make it realistic for him to gain a stronger form on top of that when he didn't even manage to remove the G4 drawbacks yet

Pretimeskip, g2 had drawbacks(stamina issues), same goes for g3(turning chibi-mode), drawbacks he removed with the timeskip(with partial g2 without turning chibi again while using g3) while learning a new mode(g4), so i thought that with the remaining timeskip training time, his experience in fighting multiple high tiers, learning an advanced level of hardening to it's maximum, it'd allow him to regulate his haki better, so that he could use G4 with little to no drawback

The only way out that Oda could find towards this is if he somehow explains that G4 drains Luffy more due to advanced haki level3 being more taxing that regular haki, but eventhen, since we're in a top tier battle now who are known to fight for days, it doesn't make sense imo that Luffy could realistically beat a top tier with such restriction

Either it'd mean that he'd gain a power-up so strong that even a top tier(weakened or not) couldn't beat him in the limited period of time of the mode(in which case, it'd signficantly diminish my top tier perspective) or he'd continuously get help to the point the top tier(s) he'd face will have to be weakened enough for his limited timelimit mode to be able finish him, which on the other hand, would completely destroy Luffy's character growth on his way to pirate king, something i don't see Oda doing

I still think Luffy will end up overshadowing everyone, especially since he already hinted at the beginning of the battle of the possibility of Luffy matching Kaido, which leads me to believe, there will be a Luffy vs Kaido chapter, but the way Oda is going with this makes you question the point of Luffy's training growth on his way to fight Kaido. Even if he gains an additional power-up mid fight(awakening or something of the sort), i'd still question myself of what is the point of G4 still having drawbacks at this stage
Unless Luffy unlocks infinite haki, G4 will always have that drawback. Best to hope he can increase his time limit and decrease the cooldown.
 
I'm really feeling that gear 5 will appear in less than 10 chapters.

gear 4 is quite similar to SSJ3 as it uses too much stamina, but is the most powerful form.

The gear 5 might be using the awakening skill of his devil fruit, maybe by "rubbering" the environment (onigashima's skull become rubber) so that once luffy attack kaido, he will keep being kicked by onigashima (and luffy might use riuyo on the skull too, to hurt a lot more kaido). Gear 5 would be a overpowered "gentle criminal" from mha, with haki.

Also, I think kaido's hybrid form looks a lot like omega shenron
Just remember that G4 didn't show up until after every DR fight was over and Luffy fought Doflamingo for like 10+ chapters already. It may take longer for that to show up (or another G4 form), especially since we don't know if the rooftop fight gets postponed or shifts based on how much Oda is focusing on it rn.
 
Tbh i didn't expect G4 to still have a timelimit at this point. At mentioned in this thread, i was expecting for Oda to show Luffy's next level King moves: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/luffys-evolution-on-his-way-to-defeat-kaido.10747/

I still think it'd happen, but with the way Oda still shows Luffy's G4 drawbacks, it doesn't really make it realistic for him to gain a stronger form on top of that when he didn't even manage to remove the G4 drawbacks yet

Pretimeskip, g2 had drawbacks(stamina issues), same goes for g3(turning chibi-mode), drawbacks he removed with the timeskip(with partial g2 without turning chibi again while using g3) while learning a new mode(g4), so i thought that with the remaining timeskip training time, his experience in fighting multiple high tiers, learning an advanced level of hardening to it's maximum, it'd allow him to regulate his haki better, so that he could use G4 with little to no drawback

The only way out that Oda could find towards this is if he somehow explains that G4 drains Luffy more due to advanced haki level3 being more taxing that regular haki, but eventhen, since we're in a top tier battle now who are known to fight for days, it doesn't make sense imo that Luffy could realistically beat a top tier with such restriction

Either it'd mean that he'd gain a power-up so strong that even a top tier(weakened or not) couldn't beat him in the limited period of time of the mode(in which case, it'd signficantly diminish my top tier perspective) or he'd continuously get help to the point the top tier(s) he'd face will have to be weakened enough for his limited timelimit mode to be able finish him, which on the other hand, would completely destroy Luffy's character growth on his way to pirate king, something i don't see Oda doing

I still think Luffy will end up overshadowing everyone, especially since he already hinted at the beginning of the battle of the possibility of Luffy matching Kaido, which leads me to believe, there will be a Luffy vs Kaido chapter, but the way Oda is going with this makes you question the point of Luffy's training growth on his way to fight Kaido. Even if he gains an additional power-up mid fight(awakening or something of the sort), i'd still question myself of what is the point of G4 still having drawbacks at this stage
why should he need g4 in the first place
with ryou and g3rd
it worked fine.

g4 is a finishing form
its inconsistent to have a kong gatling enhanced by ryou do less damage than red roc.
 

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So Zoro made a tornado that cuts Kaido? He’s not even using a direct attack?

This man is a monster

His fuckin AoE attacks are fucking Kaido? Ridiculous
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He holds off memes named attack too apparently.
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why should he need g4 in the first place
with ryou and g3rd
it worked fine.

g4 is a finishing form
its inconsistent to have a kong gatling enhanced by ryou do less damage than red roc.
Maybe zoan defence > base
 
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