Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Enma]

This is unacceptable

Why

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

also why would he lack CoO exactly?

He had managed to react to Rayleigh's attack quite swiftly if you ask me.

no I was mentioning Kaido lack of CoO

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He holds off memes named attack too apparently.

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Maybe zoan defence > base

zoan defence surely is
but the gap between g4 and g3rd was very significant

cracker biscuits smashed his elephant gun
once he was in the 4th gear he broke the biscuit a single kong gun

luffy's haki improving in my mind was supposed to mean not having to rely on gears to hit hard
but I guess another route is being explored.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

If Zoro will cut kaido again , im going to japan and throwing fire on one piece
Also gonna take Oda hostage

 

[Finalbeta]

no I was mentioning Kaido lack of CoO

Oh my bad, I misred.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

tatsumaki that he used on fishman island

:

 

[HA001]

zoan defence surely is
but the gap between g4 and g3rd was very significant

cracker biscuits smashed his elephant gun
once he was in the 4th gear he broke the biscuit a single kong gun

luffy's haki improving in my mind was supposed to mean not having to rely on gears to hit hard
but I guess another route is being explored.

Red roc was more shock than anything. Kaidos took all his shit since with little effort.

 

[Enma]

If Zoro will cut kaido again , im going to japan and throwing fire on one piece
Also gonna take Oda hostage

You can pack you luggage then

 

[Paperchampion23]

This is not beating when you crash under uncoinsious

Now again dude delete this post


after this chapter Zoro is the undisputed winner of Sanji vs Zoro war after over a decade this war lasted we won my man we won

Dude. Luffy was still standing when Katakuri wasn't. He put his hat on his face and walked away. Luffy won the battle.

Or are you saying Luffy lost to Lucci when he couldn't move after? When he couldn't move after defeating Moria? When he coundn't move after Doflamingo? After fucking Hody? Are all those ties too lmao?

 

[Patryipe]

Tbh i didn't expect G4 to still have a timelimit at this point. At mentioned in this thread, i was expecting for Oda to show Luffy's next level King moves: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/luffys-evolution-on-his-way-to-defeat-kaido.10747/

I still think it'd happen, but with the way Oda still shows Luffy's G4 drawbacks, it doesn't really make it realistic for him to gain a stronger form on top of that when he didn't even manage to remove the G4 drawbacks yet

Pretimeskip, g2 had drawbacks(stamina issues), same goes for g3(turning chibi-mode), drawbacks he removed with the timeskip(with partial g2 without turning chibi again while using g3) while learning a new mode(g4), so i thought that with the remaining timeskip training time, his experience in fighting multiple high tiers, learning an advanced level of hardening to it's maximum, it'd allow him to regulate his haki better, so that he could use G4 with little to no drawback

The only way out that Oda could find towards this is if he somehow explains that G4 drains Luffy more due to advanced haki level3 being more taxing that regular haki, but eventhen, since we're in a top tier battle now who are known to fight for days, it doesn't make sense imo that Luffy could realistically beat a top tier with such restriction

Either it'd mean that he'd gain a power-up so strong that even a top tier(weakened or not) couldn't beat him in the limited period of time of the mode(in which case, it'd signficantly diminish my top tier perspective) or he'd continuously get help to the point the top tier(s) he'd face will have to be weakened enough for his limited timelimit mode to be able finish him, which on the other hand, would completely destroy Luffy's character growth on his way to pirate king, something i don't see Oda doing

I still think Luffy will end up overshadowing everyone, especially since he already hinted at the beginning of the battle of the possibility of Luffy matching Kaido, which leads me to believe, there will be a Luffy vs Kaido chapter, but the way Oda is going with this makes you question the point of Luffy's training growth on his way to fight Kaido. Even if he gains an additional power-up mid fight(awakening or something of the sort), i'd still question myself of what is the point of G4 still having drawbacks at this stage

Yeah, Oda is handling this fight in dumb mode to be honest. Onigiri w/o haki, Law using GK on Dragon Kaido and downgrading to CS for BM, Luffy running out of G4 w/o even trying KKG...

Clealry he's waiting for round 2.

But yeah, even considering that Luffy running out of G4 is totally shocking. I always took the top tier fights last days as empty hype cause Oda would never draw anything like that with Luffy involved anyway, but him running out of G4 before round 1 against Kaido is over is just lol.

Clealry Oda has got to have something in mind and I think only awakening with a whole new set of powers that is overall less taxing than G4 might work. But then why did we did spend so much time with Udon Luffy to see him focusing only on Adv haki? Did he learn awakening off panel? Maybe the strategy is to use awakening to wear Kaido down and then KKG him. Guess we'll see.

 

[vikas]

It blows my mind that Oda didn’t have Luffy fix the time limit issue.

Like seriously, you can literally argue that Katakuri is still above Luffy.

I was actually hoping Oda will ditch the whole Gear thing in wano and give luffy legit power without relying on the time limited power ups. Like he has FS/Ryou but in the end the main factor is still his Gears.

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and walked away.

Pekoms took him away

 

[mly90]

So Kaido enters Hybrid Form when Luffy rans out of Haki?
Oda just did Luffy dirty with this one.

Looking at it another way this could be Kaido actually showing respect to Luffy trying to finish things off while he is out of haki.

 

[Skiddo]

Man I'd pay Oda with my life if the cut off Onigashima horn ends up falling on Black Maria and saving Sanji.

 

[stealthblack]

so much for that lol

that aged like milk

 

[Indigo]

I think i've read the spoilers 3~4 times so far, i just can't believe Oda is actually doing it: 3 chapters in a row of rooftop fight, Zoro doing cool shit nonstop, and now we get Kaido hybrid form + CP0, that's crazy.

 

[kom5]

Dude. Luffy was still standing when Katakuri wasn't. He put his hat on his face and walked away. Luffy won the battle.

Or are you saying Luffy lost to Lucci when he couldn't move after? When he couldn't move after defeating Moria? When he coundn't move after Doflamingo? After fucking Hody? Are all those ties too lmao?

When did he put the hat after 10 minutes I remind you of the last clash Luffy fell to the ground and Kata then fell this is not the same as Lucci or Moria
In Luccis case he wasnt koed the same with Crocodile he saved Robin or Enel here he was the one who fell first

 

[Roronoa-sama]

If Zoro will cut kaido again , im going to japan and throwing fire on one piece
Also gonna take Oda hostage

well kaido need him

 

[WesMidnight]

If Zoro will cut kaido again

again?

 

[Weeman]

Btw this chapter confirms Sanji vs Rob Lucci

 

[Indigo]

Man I'd pay Oda with my life if the cut off Onigashima horn ends up falling on Black Maria and saving Sanji.

That would be some shit.