Yes man, if it weren't for ZORO the luffy would have already lost to DRAGON KAIDO the weakest form of KAIDO. And I remember some people thinking that he alone could defeat kaido in 1x1. He lost in this chapter, for me if he was solo in this fight against KAIDO he would have already been defeated. I consider what happened to luffy and his G4 a defeat for him, kaido beat him.