How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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I'm not invested in the fight like I thought I would
Don't know why :choppawhat:
Is it because Kaido feels like he is just standing there to be kicked around, or because of the Oden forced association with Enma during Zoro's attacks
Punchbag kaido....At least we can expect the anime to do better, i mean if they adapt this chapter pannel by pannel it wouldnt take even 2 minutes, they have to be creative with it.

I just hope Oda dont off pannel the rest of the rooftop fight.
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Oden tanked boro breath but was one shoted by a weakened kaido's normal club attack.
How did Kaido one shot Oden if you just said Oden was hit by Boro breath lmfao? That is by definition not a one shot. Odin was also injured from Kaido showing that Kaido cannot one shot him and had to defeat him through attrition.


Base kaido blitz luffy unlike dragon form. So no base> dragon form.
Bound Man just can’t dodge, Kaido got lucky. Base Luffy already proved in Onigashima that Kaido can’t land hits on him.
 
How did Kaido one shot Oden if you just said Oden was hit by Boro breath lmfao? That is by definition not a one shot. Odin was also injured from Kaido showing that Kaido cannot one shot him and had to defeat him through attrition.




Bound Man just can’t dodge, Kaido got lucky. Base Luffy already proved in Onigashima that Kaido can’t land hits on him.
Not really. While oden was injured it didn't seemed to do heavy damage. With how durable oden is the weakened club attack still is more powerful. Divine thunder from healthy kaido balances it.

Dude even in recent chapter luffy has to use fs to dodge divine thunder. Boro breath is not a blitz attack. Luffy easily dodged it in their first encounter.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
While oden was injured it didn't seemed to do heavy damage.
What are you even saying lmfao?

Hey look, this is Luffy “one shotting” Doflamingo because the rest of the fight didn’t count


Dude even in recent chapter luffy has to use fs to dodge divine thunder. Boro breath is not a blitz attack. Luffy easily dodged it in their first encounter.
So your argument is that speed = strength? Katakuri bodies Kaido then.

If base Kaido was stronger than Dragon Kaido, Kaido’s retarded ass would’ve stayed in base instead of resorting to the Dragon to face the rookies who are currently embarrassing him. Especially if base Kaido is both faster and stronger than the Dragon.
 
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It kinda sucks that Zoro will never find out about what happened in Whole Cake Island, the part about Sanji beating Luffy. Only Nami, Luffy and Sanji know that information, and all of them won't share it with Zoro. I would love that see that interaction, i think it would be really tense and interesting, while at the same time picking a setup from Water 7.

I pretty sure Oda knows that if Zoro was privy to that information, the crew would have a pretty serious fight.

Just think about it. Zoro is a lot more open with his respect and caring nature towards Usopp than he is with Sanji, remember how he almost cut down Nami when she said she killed Usopp back in Arlong Park, and even tho Zoro is annoyed by Usopp's coward side, he also respect his braver moments and his sniper skills. Despite all of that, Zoro was still very strict about Usopp's decision to challenge Luffy and then leave the crew, he respected the wishes of Luffy and the rest of the crew that wanted Usopp back, but he determined he would only accept Usopp back if the first thing that came out of his mouth was an apology. Thankfully, Usopp didn't disapoint Zoro and their friendship is completely restored.

Now think about how Zoro would've reacted learning about what Sanji did, especially taking into account how Zoro shows a lot less care and respect towards Sanji, at least openly, we know Zoro does care about Sanji.

The Sanji situation was a lot worse than Usopp's IMO, first Sanji left the crew, Zoro knows about this part already and knows Sanji did it because he didn't wanted to put the crew in danger, but Zoro still was a little bit annoyed about that. Now we enter into the "fight", after Luffy went to save Sanji, Sanji beat the shit out of Luffy, and it wasn't even in a fight like Usopp, it was a one-sided beatup from Sanji torwards his captain. Then, later on, Sanji just wanted to come back into the crew without even taking much responsability for what he did, not apologizing or anything, and Luffy didn't care about it (just like he didn't with Usopp), but even Nami gave Sanji a cold shoulder in that moment (remember Nami was one of the few who was really open to Usopp coming back and didn't care about all that stuff, Nami is one of the most forgiving out of the Straw Hats, she forgave Jinbei!). To top it all off, all the three things that made Sanji do everything he did in WCI were pointless, first the crew was going to rush to save him anyways, so they would be less in danger if Sanji had stayed with them, second the Baratie cooks were threatened, but for all we know they are all safe and sound, even after Sanji escaped from the wedding, seems like it was a bluff, and finally the bracelet bombs put on his hands just completely disappeared, so basically Sanji did all of that, put the crew in risk and beat the shit out of Luffy for nothing, forced drama.

So if even Nami didn't take that shit well, how do you think Zoro would take it?

I'm pretty sure Zoro would make Sanji ask for forgiveness to the whole crew like Usopp or ask Sanji to leave the crew. If neither of these things were realized, Zoro would've left the crew, just like he said back in Water 7.

And also, think about how hypocritical it is from Sanji's POV, because Sanji was the only one that agreed with Zoro back in Water 7 in relation to only allowing Usopp back into the crew if he asked for forgiveness, but when it comes to himself, he acts like nothing happenend, it kinda pisses me off to be honest.

Anyway, just wanted to get this out of my chest.
 
It kinda sucks that Zoro will never find out about what happened in Whole Cake Island, the part about Sanji beating Luffy. Only Nami, Luffy and Sanji know that information, and all of them won't share it with Zoro. I would love that see that interaction, i think it would be really tense and interesting, while at the same time picking a setup from Water 7.

I pretty sure Oda knows that if Zoro was privy to that information, the crew would have a pretty serious fight.

Just think about it. Zoro is a lot more open with his respect and caring nature towards Usopp than he is with Sanji, remember how he almost cut down Nami when she said she killed Usopp back in Arlong Park, and even tho Zoro is annoyed by Usopp's coward side, he also respect his braver moments and his sniper skills. Despite all of that, Zoro was still very strict about Usopp's decision to challenge Luffy and then leave the crew, he respected the wishes of Luffy and the rest of the crew that wanted Usopp back, but he determined he would only accept Usopp back if the first thing that came out of his mouth was an apology. Thankfully, Usopp didn't disapoint Zoro and their friendship is completely restored.

Now think about how Zoro would've reacted learning about what Sanji did, especially taking into account how Zoro shows a lot less care and respect towards Sanji, at least openly, we know Zoro does care about Sanji.

The Sanji situation was a lot worse than Usopp's IMO, first Sanji left the crew, Zoro knows about this part already and knows Sanji did it because he didn't wanted to put the crew in danger, but Zoro still was a little bit annoyed about that. Now we enter into the "fight", after Luffy went to save Sanji, Sanji beat the shit out of Luffy, and it wasn't even in a fight like Usopp, it was a one-sided beatup from Sanji torwards his captain. Then, later on, Sanji just wanted to come back into the crew without even taking much responsability for what he did, not apologizing or anything, and Luffy didn't care about it (just like he didn't with Usopp), but even Nami gave Sanji a cold shoulder in that moment (remember Nami was one of the few who was really open to Usopp coming back and didn't care about all that stuff, Nami is one of the most forgiving out of the Straw Hats, she forgave Jinbei!). To top it all off, all the three things that made Sanji do everything he did in WCI were pointless, first the crew was going to rush to save him anyways, so they would be less in danger if Sanji had stayed with them, second the Baratie cooks were threatened, but for all we know they are all safe and sound, even after Sanji escaped from the wedding, seems like it was a bluff, and finally the bracelet bombs put on his hands just completely disappeared, so basically Sanji did all of that, put the crew in risk and beat the shit out of Luffy for nothing, forced drama.

So if even Nami didn't take that shit well, how do you think Zoro would take it?

I'm pretty sure Zoro would make Sanji ask for forgiveness to the whole crew like Usopp or ask Sanji to leave the crew. If neither of these things were realized, Zoro would've left the crew, just like he said back in Water 7.

And also, think about how hypocritical it is from Sanji's POV, because Sanji was the only one that agreed with Zoro back in Water 7 in relation to only allowing Usopp back into the crew if he asked for forgiveness, but when it comes to himself, he acts like nothing happenend, it kinda pisses me off to be honest.

Anyway, just wanted to get this out of my chest.
already been debunked. Sanji leaving wasnt the same as usopp leaving but Robin leaving. Did zoro tell Robin to apologize?
 
What are you even saying lmfao?

Hey look, this is Luffy “one shotting” Doflamingo because the rest of the fight didn’t count




So your argument is that speed = strength? Katakuri bodies Kaido then.

If base Kaido was stronger than Dragon Kaido, Kaido’s retarded ass would’ve stayed in base instead of resorting to the Dragon to face the rookies who are currently embarrassing him.
What attacks did oden took before club attack:seriously:Fighting fodders which hardly matters and boro breath. Still had enough strength to perfom totsuka paradise.

No divine thunder has power to one shot g4 luffy hence if it connects it is devastating. Boro breath can be dodged. You have very poor imagination don't you.
 
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