How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Don't worry, Kidd will get a Smoker moment to Luffy.
:goyea:

For real though, I've been saying from the very beginning that Zoro will outperform Kidd and Luffy. With each chapter I've been looking more and more accurate. I think you're setting yourself up for failure if you expect Kidd or Killer to outperform Zoro.

Zoro's going to deal nearly half of the damage to Kaido.
  • In two consecutive chapters, Kaido has noticed Oden's presence from Enma.
  • Kaido wants to die at the hands of a monster samurai of the likes of Oden.
  • Zoro comes to fight him literally wielding Oden's sword, and demonstrates the power to greatly injure him.

Again, unless Kidd somehow defeats Mama, he has no hope of even comparing to Zoro.

Kaido literally wants Zoro to kill him. Expecting anyone other than Pirate Jesus to outperform Zoro is delusional.
I'll just ignore the Kidd-Smoker comparison, which is ridiculus

And I'm saying since the beginning that Kidd will outperform Law, Zoro and Killer.
I'll not change my mind till the battle ends, cause I have a lot of motivations to think so.

• So what? You judging the whole fight from 2 chapters of battle (not even 3 cause we have not the full summary yet)? If so, you're running bro
• Who knows if he'll get what he wants?
• I always said that Zoro will reopen the scar/open a new one that makes Kaido panic

I'm leaving open the possibility of Kidd fighting Mama with Killer and Luffy fighting Kaido with Zoro, Law as support.
In both cases I don't see Zoro outperforming Luffy and Kidd.

You were wrong about Killer, twice, what makes you so sure that you'll not be wrong with Kidd too? He has even much more set up than Killer
 
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The implication at the end of summary doesn't bode well for Oden's portrayal, if it wasn't for that panel where he appeared as a silhouette alongside other great pirates i would have dropped the idea of Oden defeating any top tier now. That goes to show how Oda completely ruined Oden vs Kaido fight when it reached an ambiguous conclusion. Oden should have faced and lost to an all out Kaido but Oda didn't want Oden to spoil the main antagonist's full strength, so he gave him some flashy feats against full-form/Jobber Kaido.
That's the problem with Oden vs kaido
Oda failed hard

He rushed the battle
He should have had at least base kaido fight Odenin that war then he wins after cheapshot or not.
 
I'll just ignore the Kidd-Smoker comparison

And I'm saying since the beginning that Kidd will outperform Law, Zoro and Killer.
I'll not change my mind till the battle ends, cause I have a lot of motivations to think so.

• So what? You judging the whole fight from 2 chapters of battle (not even 3 cause we have not the full summary yet)? If so, you're running bro
• Who knows if he'll get what he wants?
• I always said that Zoro will reopen the scar/open a new one that makes Kaido panic

I'm leaving open the possibility of Kidd fighting Mama with Killer and Luffy fighting Kaido with Zoro, Law as support.
In both cases I don't see Zoro outperforming Luffy and Kidd.

You were wrong about Killer, twice, what makes you so sure that you'll not be wrong with Kidd too? He has even much more set up than Killer
>Kidd will outperform Law, Zoro and Killer.

>Zoro

Ahahahhahahahahahahahah
 
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I'll just ignore the Kidd-Smoker comparison, which is ridiculus

And I'm saying since the beginning that Kidd will outperform Law, Zoro and Killer.
I'll not change my mind till the battle ends, cause I have a lot of motivations to think so.

• So what? You judging the whole fight from 2 chapters of battle (not even 3 cause we have not the full summary yet)? If so, you're running bro
• Who knows if he'll get what he wants?
• I always said that Zoro will reopen the scar/open a new one that makes Kaido panic

I'm leaving open the possibility of Kidd fighting Mama with Killer and Luffy fighting Kaido with Zoro, Law as support.
In both cases I don't see Zoro outperforming Luffy and Kidd.

You were wrong about Killer, twice, what makes you so sure that you'll not be wrong with Kidd too? He has even much more set up than Killer
Stop wasting your time

Zoro hasn't outshone Kidd or killer. Saving his captain doesn't mean he's outshining others.

Killer has tanked named attacks from both kaido and Linlin... dodged wind scythe
Hurt Kaido before zoro could.

Zoro feats :
Tanked unnamed strike from Linlin
Hurt Kaido with Santoryu
Blocked wind scythe
Saving Luffy 4x.

The only good part is him saving luffy,
but this fight isn't about protecting Luffy. So using this to make Zoro> Killer or kidd is stupid.
 
Oi funny guy, wasn't Killer supposed to be KOed?
:milaugh:

Keep going against Kidd/Killer, it's causing me to be lucky!
Kidd showed all his maximum. This is his first such huge Punk Rotten. It is a fact. And he had already done what he said with Kaido - squeezed him in a vice - but it didn’t work. Once again, this is Kidd's first huge Punk Rotten. Kidd is rubbish. And Oda confirms this.
 
Kidd showed all his maximum. This is his first such huge Punk Rotten. It is a fact. And he had already done what he said with Kaido - squeezed him in a vice - but it didn’t work. Once again, this is Kidd's first huge Punk Rotten. Kidd is rubbish. And Oda confirms this.
Thanks for saying that, now I know for sure that Kidd has much more in his pocket

You're the stealthblack of Zoro fans :denzimote:
 
Does people really compare Supernova to Luffy & Zoro?

First of all, Final Arc & Conclusion of Story & Final Power Ranking was decided since Start of One Piece which was like more than a Decade before Oda even though about Supernova, the Greatest & Strongest Duo of New Era were obviously always planned to be Luffy & Zoro, it's not like Oda gonna change his +10 Years Plan & make those Supernova stronger than Luffy/Zoro or even Equal, they are simply the Silver Medalists of New Era

Secondly, Oda himself said that "Even" after he introduced them, he expected most of them to drop off & even Law who received the most focus among most of them, Oda admitted that he didn't plan for that (Add to it the latest information that Doflamingo was gonna be part of Onigashima War instead of Dressrosa, so this explains why Oda didn't plan for Law to be that focused on before since whole Dressrosa Arc wasn't planned apparently). He said he expected only Kid to survive in New World & be relevant. That means we are not talking about +10 Years before Supernova Introduction, we are talking even after another half a Decade, Supernova weren't Planned to be that much relevant or strong to be compared to Luffy & Zoro

Thirdly, do you even know why the Dark King himself proposed to Luffy a 2 Year Training? It's so that he doesn't Fail in NW & becomes Ready & get much Stronger, something that none of other Supernova did (Except maybe Law but he still didn't Train, he was just chilling).
So the Story is clearly made so that Luffy & Zoro who spent 2 Years Preparing for NW under Two Legendary Pirates will show-up superior than other Supernova who rushed into NW without preparation

And finally, last argument is most simplest, Main Character Duo are simply Portrayed Superior than other Supernova & Oda even proved that by changing their Name to "Worst Generation" & included Teach in it who is a Yonko & shits on anyone not named Luffy or Zoro among them. So Clearly Oda is proving to you that those Supernova don't need to be comparable in Power to be comparable in being part of Worst Generation. Not to mention that both are guaranteed to become Pirate King & Strongest Swordsman, while other Supernova will achieve nothing except Extra Fame & being considered Silver Medalists

Conclusion:

Oda's Original Plan for +10 Years + Oda's Expectations even after Introducing them for +5 Years + Luffy/Zoro's Portrayal + Their 2 Year Training ... etc clearly shows that Luffy/Zoro >>>> Supernova. Put it in your head
 
Thanks for saying that, now I know for sure that Kidd has much more in his pocket

You're the stealthblack of Zoro fans :denzimote:
Kidd cannot be stronger than the one taught by the strongest swordsman in the world.))
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Kidd cannot be stronger than the one taught by the strongest swordsman in the world.))
Don't kid yourself - you know perfectly well that Kidd did everything he wanted with Kaido. And it doesn't work.
 
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