How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Since when Kaido was there to stop Zoro? He was down due to Luffy, only Big mom was standing. Its a pathetic lie. When Zoro grab Luffy there was only Big mom then Law attacked Big mom, then Kaido get up and ate Luffy only then Zoro stopped running and attacked Kaido, making him spit Luffy.

That's why I said Zoro didn't want to fight Big mom while Vista wanted to fight Mihawk, big difference. Learn to read.
Kaido was never down. The fact that he tried to chomp Luffy shows why I'm right. It's an all-out battle, Zoro and the rest are cautious all the time. That is very naive of you.
Right now Luffy is in a very weak condition. He can get killed instantly in one simple attack from a Yonko because he can't use Haki nor deflect an attack. At that moment, Big Mom was going to cut Luffy in half if Zoro didn't intervene. Zoro's priority was to protect his captain first. That's why he rushed to save him.
I can't believe I'm explaining this to you. As I said before, even Jinbei blocked that attack with his bare hands (+Haki). Do you really think Jinbei's hands are stronger than Enma?? You guys reached a new level of patheticness when you went against the most important character in the story after Luffy.
 
Meanwhile Oda continues to handle Law's ability very poorly in this match-up. Originally introduced as an unstoppable ability if not powerful haki, now it his amputate was completely made irrelevant against an opponent who doesn't use haki and love to take hits. It's like Oda limits his ability depending on the level of opponent he is facing(aka as depending on the plot) :pepeke:
Kaido is using Haki, thats why he is able to take on MUCH STRONGER punches of Luffy than hos Red Roc
and among SNs Law as of now is the only one who has hurt BM
but yeah, his body separating ability which was OP and considered unstoppable by some is now being limited, maybe thats how it should be, all of Law's abilities are TOO OP... name one that isnt ?
Teleportation, Heart Swap, Stopping Heart, Redirecting force of attack, Separating Body Parts.... Invincibility Operation
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

Perhaps Jack didn't use Hybrid and Awakening against the Minks. Who knows, maybe he follows Kaido's example ...
This is one of the good reasons that makes me think that kaido will win, and that CP-0 citing calamities in this chapter serves as a hint, ODA has long kept the hybrid form of calamities, especially jack. We will have a turn of pieces with all hybrids and calamities deserving the hyper.
 

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Thanks @Pantheos for a legitimate answer.

I see definitely where you're coming from, someone like myself on the other side sees things slightly differently but it is an interesting convo.

For example I'd see @ShishioIsBack post an interesting argument like something about Zoro's speed in the last 2 chapters and I'd think to myself "he makes a good point" but then to see someone just come in and downplay ruins the whole dialogue which I'm sure he would be trying to have and a poster can simply ruin by making a moronic comment like "beetle gifter ggs" which will then spiral out of control with Sanji being mentioned then toxic posting starts, and as you mentioned the cycle begins.

Maybe for right now there is no answer to the toxicity we'll just be having to deal with it lol.
Always open to explain and discuss things :)

You need to keep in mind the different point of views. You as Part of your fandom (and this isn’t meant in any form negatively) have a specific point of view, where you easier overlook the „own“ trolling and maybe overreact to the others. With you I don’t mean specifically you. But the same problem has the „other side“. My point of view is seeing all these trolls, maybe from my side, I oversee trolling in favor of kid (if so, sorry), but so far I didn’t saw it that hard. Also, some fun trolling can always be, but as always, the dose makes the poison.

In your example, i didn’t read his argument, but assuming he didn’t wrote it provocating and wanted a real discussion about it (which needs different point of views), then you guys should just report the trolling answers and let us deal with it. Also overlook them, answering to the trolls or even countertroll is never any kind of solution, it is part of the problem. So, report and ignore the trolls. There are always people willing to discuss, even they have a different opinion. Trust me, I had these a lot here, cause my bias is pretty different then for the most of the people here.

Also, for every troll of the others to Shishio for example, there is the same from the Zoro fandom. As example, yesterday someone wrote he expected more damage by Zoro and argued that, without trolling or provocating, and the answer was „did Zoro fuck your girlfriend or why do you hate him? Get lost.“
I don’t call names here, but it happens a lot, sadly.

We can just deal with it, do our work here (for some people think we are biased as hell, prefer some fandom over another, some people think we were their personal army, dunno) and can appeal to people like you, people willing to discuss and listen, to stay away from the trolling, to do your Part of keeping it civil.
 
Kaido was never down. The fact that he tried to chomp Luffy shows why I'm right. It's an all-out battle, Zoro and the rest should be cautious all the time. That is very naive of you.
Right now Luffy is in a very weak condition. He can get killed instantly in one simple attack from a Yonko because he can't use Haki nor deflect the attack. At that moment, Big Mom was going to cut Luffy in half if Zoro didn't intervene. Zoro's priority was to protect his captain first. That's why he rushed to save him.
I can't believe I'm explaining this to you. As I said before, even Jinbei blocked that attack with his bare hands (+Haki). Do you really think Jinbei's hands are stronger than Enma?? You guys reached a new level of patheticness when you went against the most important character in the story after Luffy.
Can you even see the spoilers? Just stop bullshitting and look at it.

Kaido was down when Big mom attacked Luffy, there was only Big mom at that moment.

After Zoro ran from Big mom instead of blocking her sword, Kaido got up and ate Luffy after the tornados.

You: there was both Kaido and Big mom :laughmoji:

Also Jinbei blocked Skinny Big mom, cut the crap. And still got overpowered. This is a more powerful Big mom. You are bullshitting.
 
What if Kaido have 1vs2 against luffy and zoro with emna sword instead of Big mom fights against kidd,killer and law in individual fight.

:whitepress:I wouldn't so surprise if oda did writer on kaido vs luffy plus zoro at all.
 
As for the Oden's Haki, Kaido saying Odens Haki does not exactly mean he has the same Haki, but more the same level of haki, as Zoro is starting to adapt to the sword that only Oden was able to wield.
What? Kaido didn't mention Oden's Haki or Oden's Ryuo.

Luffy really got Kaido down for a few panels with his Kong Gatling, Law should teleport Luffy for the moment from that roof, Kaido is about to stomp everyone there :kata:
I like this set up. As if hybrid Zoan wasn't bad enough. Law is basically a clever cleric but not an attentive enough babysitter. They really need one for Luffy but he won't do a great job. Zoro is left to do it, but that takes away their best offense.

curbstomp before ten minutes is up
 
@Bogard @PurpleSwordsman
Kaido calls people who can stab him Oden Haki.

Lol Kaido calls people that cut him Oden Haki. Afterwards he realized he was tripping and Sccabards are trash and his initial thinking is wrong

He also states no Samurai is going to be has Strong and nobody be able to open wound. Basically villains always get proven wrong. Zoro will be onoden haki level
 
Who the hell said Enma was irrelevant/ nothing special?

Are you guys for real?

The ones who said Enma wasn't special and not above shishui are zoro fanboys
These aren't "Zoro fans" either.
Most of these people downplayed Enma's significance back then because they didn't think Zoro would ever fight Kaido, now that he's cutting Kaido they are changing how important they think Enma is.
 
Correction to the slightly off mis translation from the previous post to this portion:

"Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!"​
Zoro actually states. "That's (that referring to kaido) just a disaster!"​
It is easy to mistranslate this as it uses ただ which directly translates to simple or just.​

As for the Oden's Haki, Kaido saying Odens Haki does not exactly mean he has the same Haki, but more the same level of haki, as Zoro is starting to adapt to the sword that only Oden was able to wield.
So you haters/downplayers are finished.

Just like Luffy began to adapt into Katakuri's level of Future Sight CoO and Katakuri acknowledged it.
Zoro is now beginning to adapt into Oden's Level of Ryuo CoA through Enma/Practice, and fucking Kaido is acknowledging this.

You cannot beat Oda wank of Zoro. I don't know why you even bother.
Thank you @tab123 , you have just returned my excitement for this Chapter.
 
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