Current Events Zoro Carrying Luffy throughout the Raid. Oda Implying Equality?

Salah WG

Salah WG

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It's to explain to Readers why Luffy said that he cannot accept less than becoming World's Greatest Swordsman from Zoro
Because he needs a Bodyguard stronger than him

PS: Whenever Zoro fights alongside Luffy, he takes the Spotlight in most times:

1. They both fought Morgan, Oda chose to let Zoro be the one who Finish him off
2. They both fought PH Dragon, Oda chose to let Zoro the one who kills it
3. Zoro & Luffy got attacked by Senor Pink, Dellinger & Machvice, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who handles them quickly
4. They both met Fujitora, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who stops him before Pica appeared
5. Both faced Hawkins, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who handles him
6. Both faced Apoo, Oda chose that Zoro carries & protects Luffy
7. Both are facing 2 Yonko now, well guess who is protecting the other one multiple times...

Not to mention that when a Major Foe appears who isn't Main Arc Villain but Equal or Greater Threat, Zoro is the one who handles him such as Mihawk in Baratie Arc, Kuma in Thriller Bark, Fujitora in Dressrosa & Stampede Movie ... etc
 
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Geo

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Pantheos said:
But at topic: It doesnt show equality. There is no point on why someone carrying someone else implies equality. It happened often that luffy got carried away by other people when exhausted
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Luffy being saved from a Yonkou?

Him being carried is both literal and figurative. Basically the main point is Oda choosing Zoro to save Luffy from Yonkou whiles injuring and countering the Yonkou. Which character you consider weaker than Luffy would be able to perform such feats?
 
nik87

nik87

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Salah WG said:
It's to explain to Readers why Luffy said that he cannot accept less than becoming World's Greatest Swordsman from Zoro
Because he needs a Bodyguard stronger than him

PS: Whenever Zoro fights alongside Luffy, he takes the Spotlight in most times:

1. They both fought Morgan, Oda chose to let Zoro be the one who Finish him off
2. They both fought PH Dragon, Oda chose to let Zoro the one who kills it
3. Zoro & Luffy got attacked by Senor Pink, Dellinger & Machvice, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who handles them quickly
4. They both met Fujitora, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who stops him before Pica appeared
5. Both faced Hawkins, Oda chose Zoro to be the one who handles him
6. Both faced Apoo, Oda chose that Zoro carries & protects Luffy
7. Both are facing 2 Yonko now, well guess who is protecting the other one multiple times...

Not to mention that when a Major Foe appears who isn't Main Arc Villain but Equal or Greater Threat, Zoro is the one who handles him such as Mihawk in Baratie Arc, Kuma in Thriller Bark, Fujitora in Dressrosa & Stampede Movie ... etc
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Hear, hear! Another master of Santoryu Ogi: Greater Fact Delivery! :finally:
 
Pantheos

Pantheos

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Geo said:
Luffy being saved from a Yonkou?

Him being carried is both literal and figurative. Basically the main point is Oda choosing Zoro to save Luffy from Yonkou whiles injuring and countering the Yonkou. Which character you consider weaker than Luffy would be able to perform such feats?
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King Baum carried Luffy away from Big Mum back then and Nami hurt Big mum with that. So following the argument: King Baum + Nami > Luffy ?
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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Pantheos said:
King Baum carried Luffy away from Big Mum back then and Nami hurt Big mum with that. So following the argument: King Baum + Nami > Luffy ?
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You're comparing Running from someone to actually have a Legit Fight

Kaido + BM vs 5 Supernova is a Fair Legit Fight, it isn't just an Encounter or they trying to escape or they have another Objective ... etc
It's 2 Characters fighting 5 Others with both Sides want to Kill the other one & so far, nothing interrupted them or changed the odds or their goal changed

So don't compare Baum & SHs saving Luffy from BM & Vinsmokes saving Luffy from BM Pirates or Mr.2 carrying him in Impel Down ... etc to Zoro carrying Luffy & protecting him in the Middle of a Battle for Greatness
 
ShinmenTakezo

ShinmenTakezo

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Pantheos said:
Yep thats it, agree here.

I feel bad for Zoro kinda right now. While he shows impressive feats and is portrayed strong AF, shows does he absolutely deserves to be Luffys first mate, he gets so overhyped right now by his fandom, that it kinda backslashes and discredits his real feats here. Feels like his own fandom is shitting on his real feats and portray him weaker then he is, by absolutely trolloverhyping.

But at topic: It doesnt show equality. There is no point on why someone carrying someone else implies equality. It happened often that luffy got carried away by other people when exhausted.
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Its on you though if you cant distinguish or separate the fandom from the character, to be fair.
 
Cinera

Cinera

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Geo said:
Zoro's timeskip training was for the purpose of being strong enough to protect his captain (Luffy).

Oda has hammered this point in the Onigashima raid. Zoro has literally and figuratively been carrying Luffy throughout the Raid. He has been protecting him every step of the way. Some examples below;

Zoro warning Luffy about Apoo's attack, Luffy KO'd by Apoo and Zoro Carrying Luffy away even though he was cut by Apoo. Zoro was also defending from long range attacks whiles carrying Luffy.

Zoro saving Luffy from Big Mom's heavenly fire.
Zoro saving Luffy from Kaido's Boro breath
Zoro saving Luffy from Big Mom after his G4 runs out.
Zoro saving Luffy from literally getting chomped alive by Kaido
Zoro saving Luffy from Kaido's wind scythes.

These are the instances. Is Oda Implying a form of equality from these? If Zoro wasn't strong enough, would he have been able to save Luffy from Kaido and BM?

This does not seem to be the end because next chapter, it is almost certain that Zoro will be protecting Luffy even more.

Edit; Inb4 people start bringing in Sanji, don't forget he failed to protect Luffy from ministers (not even Yonkou). He was hit by Yuen , saved by Ichiji and saved by Niji.

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Yeah, Zoro has been Luffy's babysitter, but I don't see it portraying equality. It just shows where Zoro's priorities lie and it's Zoro fulfilling his job as a first mate.
 
nik87

nik87

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Extravlad said:
Superiority

Its gonna be G5 Luffy = Zoro > Current Luffy
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Tbh, I dont know if Oda will ever manage to make Luffy equal to Zoro.
Swordsmen, in general, are his worst possible match-up.
Then, it's a swordsman of Zoro's caliber... I think it's impossible.
We just saw it, 2 chapters of countless Boundman hits were overshadowed by one Tatsumaki...
 
Extravlad

Extravlad

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nik87 said:
Tbh, I dont know if Oda will ever manage to make Luffy equal to Zoro.
Swordsmen, in general, are his worst possible match-up.
Then, it's a swordsman of Zoro's caliber... I think it's impossible.
We just saw it, 2 chapters of countless Boundman hits were overshadowed by one Tatsumaki...
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True.
But Luffy does have one thing that Zoro will never have
And It's retarded nonsensical plot stamina
The same shit that made him take 123 hits from Katakuri (including a stab to the belly) and still win while landing 13 punches

Luffy has the strongest plot in OP.
 
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