"Taming/using Enma is a Yonko lvl feat"
"Taming/using Enma means Zoro has Oden lvl haki"
"Only Zoro is capable of taming/using Enma out of any swordsman/person there"
...
All of these statements just because Zoro is using Enma.
Let's start with the panel that started it all:
"Before or after", somehow people took these words and thought that a bunch of swordsmen tried taming Enma and died or something.
Or they think that means every swordsman that lives/lived in Wano wasn't capable of handling Enma.
I'm gonna proof that the only person that ever tried Enma was Oden and Oden alone.
Before Oden
In SBS, Oda answered question about Shimotsuki Kouzaburou (the creator of Enma):
Oda says Kouzaburou created Enma and gifted Enma to Oden
This alone proves that there was no one "before" Oden to try Enma
as Enma was forged as a gift for Oden as a present, who was somewhere between 1year old and 4years old
+Nowhere in the story does it say that anyone before Oden tried Enma or failed.
After Oden
So Oden gives his swords to his wife and says to give them to their children after his death
Then we find out Hitetsu was saving these 2 swords for 20 years in order to return them to Momo and Hiyori by Oden's last will
Just in this case the "you two" Hitetsu speaking to are Momo and Zoro, because Hiyori gifted her sword Enma to Zoro, so anyone besides them didn't have the right to touch the swords, yes that's including the Scabbards.
Then we see the only person after Oden's death that used Enma is- Zoro.
So out of 2 people who ever tried taming/using Enma
100% of them succeeded in taming Enma.
100% success rate is not impressive....
So to summarize:
No one besides Oden got to use Enma because it was forged to Oden as a present
No one besides Zoro got to use Enma after Oden's death
Oden tamed Enma as a child
So we already gotten through, how Oden got Enma when he was anywhere between 1 year old - 4 years old.
Then we had a flashback where we see a 10 year old Oden using Enma no problem:
This shows that Enma was tamed:
at worst scenario by 10 year old Oden
at best scenario by even younger Oden (1-9yrs old)
Early life Oden was not that strong
We had 20 year old Oden fight 17 year old Ashura Doji and some fodder all night.
And Oden looks pretty beat up and obviously he had a difficult fight.
I'm not gonna hype the fodder, because they are fodder, beginning of One Piece anyone can take out bunch of fodder with 1 move.
So let's start with Ashura Doji:
He was 17yrs old, this wasn't the Ashura Doji who was trained by Oden and Scabbards,
this isn't current Ashura Doji who is 56 yrs old.
This Ashura Doji is WEAK. He's weaker than chapter 2 Luffy who is also 17yrs old.
We know Luffy has probably the best strength growth out of anyone in the series
19 year old Luffy is currently WAY stronger than 56year old Ashura Doji.
So imagine how much stronger 17yr old Luffy is compared to 17 yr old Doji.
I'm gonna say this, Ashura Doji was as strong as kid versions of Ace, Sabo, Luffy.
Those kids were beating up grown men and giant monsters as kids, so it's a pretty fair comparison I think.
So think how weak 10 year old Oden who was using Enma was
if 20yr old Oden had this much problem with Ashura Doji and some fodder
To summarize
Oden was really weak when he tamed Enma
so using/taming Enma is not impressive
Zoro
Most people somehow skipped this, but it was said how Zoro gotten used to Enma so fast:
But these 2 translations are a bit different:
So:
best case scenario- Zoro had an advantage with a sword he's been using for 11yrs- Wado
worst case scenario- Wado is more than 50% the reason that Zoro can tame Enma.
TL;DR
We know kids can tame Enma, taming Enma is not strength nor haki feat. You just need practice no matter how strong or weak you are.
The only way taming Enma would be impressive if a literal fodder tried using the sword and succeeded in taming it on first try.
"Taming/using Enma means Zoro has Oden lvl haki"
"Only Zoro is capable of taming/using Enma out of any swordsman/person there"
...
All of these statements just because Zoro is using Enma.
Let's start with the panel that started it all:
"Before or after", somehow people took these words and thought that a bunch of swordsmen tried taming Enma and died or something.
Or they think that means every swordsman that lives/lived in Wano wasn't capable of handling Enma.
I'm gonna proof that the only person that ever tried Enma was Oden and Oden alone.
Before Oden
In SBS, Oda answered question about Shimotsuki Kouzaburou (the creator of Enma):
Oda says Kouzaburou created Enma and gifted Enma to Oden
This alone proves that there was no one "before" Oden to try Enma
as Enma was forged as a gift for Oden as a present, who was somewhere between 1year old and 4years old
+Nowhere in the story does it say that anyone before Oden tried Enma or failed.
After Oden
So Oden gives his swords to his wife and says to give them to their children after his death
Then we find out Hitetsu was saving these 2 swords for 20 years in order to return them to Momo and Hiyori by Oden's last will
Just in this case the "you two" Hitetsu speaking to are Momo and Zoro, because Hiyori gifted her sword Enma to Zoro, so anyone besides them didn't have the right to touch the swords, yes that's including the Scabbards.
Then we see the only person after Oden's death that used Enma is- Zoro.
So out of 2 people who ever tried taming/using Enma
100% of them succeeded in taming Enma.
100% success rate is not impressive....
So to summarize:
No one besides Oden got to use Enma because it was forged to Oden as a present
No one besides Zoro got to use Enma after Oden's death
Oden tamed Enma as a child
So we already gotten through, how Oden got Enma when he was anywhere between 1 year old - 4 years old.
Then we had a flashback where we see a 10 year old Oden using Enma no problem:
This shows that Enma was tamed:
at worst scenario by 10 year old Oden
at best scenario by even younger Oden (1-9yrs old)
Early life Oden was not that strong
We had 20 year old Oden fight 17 year old Ashura Doji and some fodder all night.
And Oden looks pretty beat up and obviously he had a difficult fight.
I'm not gonna hype the fodder, because they are fodder, beginning of One Piece anyone can take out bunch of fodder with 1 move.
So let's start with Ashura Doji:
He was 17yrs old, this wasn't the Ashura Doji who was trained by Oden and Scabbards,
this isn't current Ashura Doji who is 56 yrs old.
This Ashura Doji is WEAK. He's weaker than chapter 2 Luffy who is also 17yrs old.
We know Luffy has probably the best strength growth out of anyone in the series
19 year old Luffy is currently WAY stronger than 56year old Ashura Doji.
So imagine how much stronger 17yr old Luffy is compared to 17 yr old Doji.
I'm gonna say this, Ashura Doji was as strong as kid versions of Ace, Sabo, Luffy.
Those kids were beating up grown men and giant monsters as kids, so it's a pretty fair comparison I think.
So think how weak 10 year old Oden who was using Enma was
if 20yr old Oden had this much problem with Ashura Doji and some fodder
To summarize
Oden was really weak when he tamed Enma
so using/taming Enma is not impressive
Zoro
Most people somehow skipped this, but it was said how Zoro gotten used to Enma so fast:
But these 2 translations are a bit different:
- unofficial translation says Wado is the main reason Zoro can handle Enma
- official translation says that Zoro is familiar to using Enma is because of Wado
So:
best case scenario- Zoro had an advantage with a sword he's been using for 11yrs- Wado
worst case scenario- Wado is more than 50% the reason that Zoro can tame Enma.
TL;DR
- Oden was the first and only Enma user
- Oden tamed Enma as a child (10 years old or even younger)
- Oden was not strong when he tamed Enma
- No one after Oden's death even touched Enma besides Zoro
- Oden and Zoro are the only 2 people that ever tried Enma and both of the succeeded
- Zoro had Wado, which helped either gave him an advantage in taming Enma or it is the reason Zoro was able to tame Enma
We know kids can tame Enma, taming Enma is not strength nor haki feat. You just need practice no matter how strong or weak you are.
The only way taming Enma would be impressive if a literal fodder tried using the sword and succeeded in taming it on first try.
He said Oden could have received enma anytime between the age of 1 and 9. That proves you don't know and you're just making stuff up and assumptions.
The scene which shows Oden using enma at 9 doesn't show him using haki. Using enma does automatically mean the user has mastered enma. That's like performing a technique but it's sloppy. Technically you perform the technique but you are far from perfecting it.
You can't claim that the sword is easy to use then base it on stuff you made up and assumptions. It doesn't work that way.
