Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 960: Kozuki Oden Takes the Stage

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Homelander

Kaido didn't put tabs on any of them. Hence Kawamatsu was able to remain hidden for so many years with Hiyori. Hell, the Shimotsuki clan fell 2 years after Kozuki. So it wasn't a clean sweep.

I think Denjiro went after Moriah after he stole Ryuuma's sword and Corpse. He went to East Blue to see Kouzaburou.
The moriah event happened before kaidos invasion i believe ?

Hmm it might be interesting if he toured outside wano to find ryuma sword and ended up not coming back fearing wano kuni will not accept him untill he got back the sword.
 
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The Penguin

Denjiro isn't Scopper.

They've got a few key differences in design. Scopper's got a very sharp chin, which Denjiro lacks. His ponytail is a big bushy effort, not a thin one. Scopper has two long bangs that hang in front of his face, Denjiro doesn't.

Coupled with no axe- but a sword that looks to be Wado Ichimonji- and the fact that nothing about Scopper suggests he has anything to do with Wano, it's very, very unlikely the two are the same. Denjiro's either Koshiro or a relative of his.

Also quite happy that he's not Kyoshiro since a) lot of folk guessed that b) leaves Kyoshiro's motivations still murky and c) it can shut up all the "the anime OP confirms the two are the same!" people
Dude... he's still a child and has to mature/grow up.
 
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MD Zolo

The moriah event happened before kaidos invasion i believe ?

Hmm it might be interesting if he toured outside wano to find ryuma sword and ended up not coming back fearing wano kuni will not accept him untill he got back the sword.
The Moriah event happened 23 years ago I think (I don't remember exactly).

Yeah! The nail in the coffin for any theory is that the flashback shows Denjiro fighting Kaido. I don't know how to explain that.
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Dude... he's still a child and has to mature/grow up.
You think that the third guy in the Roger Pirates behind Rayleigh is a bodyguard of Oden?!! Okay.
 
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Homelander

Dude... he's still a child and has to mature/grow up.
Only thing i am concerned is denjiro is not pirate.

It has been said few onaborded whitebeard ship. Its likely whitebeard came to recruit powerful samurais so he got guts like oden, izo .

I am not sure if roger recruited denjiro. Anyway roger temporarily borrowed him for grand sail to raftel. He needed oden to unlock raftel island.
 
The moriah event happened before kaidos invasion i believe ?

Hmm it might be interesting if he toured outside wano to find ryuma sword and ended up not coming back fearing wano kuni will not accept him untill he got back the sword.
Yeah, timeline is

25 years ago- Roger reaches Raftel

24 years ago- Roger dies

23 years ago- Ryuma's grave robbed

22 years ago- we know Koshiro is with baby Kuina on East Blue, if he's Denjiro

20 years ago- Oden dies
 
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Homelander

The Moriah event happened 23 years ago I think (I don't remember exactly).

Yeah! The nail in the coffin for any theory is that the flashback shows Denjiro fighting Kaido. I don't know how to explain that.
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You think that the third guy in the Roger Pirates behind Rayleigh is a bodyguard of Oden?!! Okay.
Makes it even less possibility koshiro being denjiro.

Or denjiro has time time fruit toki gave him. He can transport himself in different places. I am already sounding weird .
 
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MD Zolo

Bege is wearing a moustache like the SH in Dressrosa

and there’s a statue of Usopp in the background!

also, I don’t find cooking on your friend’s corpse very poetic
Wait till Oda cooks up a story between Oden and Katsuzu where Katsuzu had ridiculous requests upon his death.
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Makes it even less possibility koshiro being denjiro.

Or denjiro has time time fruit toki gave him. He can transport himself in different places. I am already sounding weird .
Fortunately Oda can't keep this one hanging for long. We will definitely see how Denjiro looked 20 years ago within the next 5 chapter.
 
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Homelander

Wait till Oda cooks up a story between Oden and Katsuzu where Katsuzu had ridiculous requests upon his death.
Oden is a man of frustruating figure. He is too bored being stuck in one closed country. He is crazy powerful already .

Oden is kind of guy who is adventerous. No wonder roger and wb liked him. His way of seeing life is different .
 
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The Penguin

The Moriah event happened 23 years ago I think (I don't remember exactly).

Yeah! The nail in the coffin for any theory is that the flashback shows Denjiro fighting Kaido. I don't know how to explain that.
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You think that the third guy in the Roger Pirates behind Rayleigh is a bodyguard of Oden?!! Okay.
His friend, like all Scabards...

My dude, I can be a King and be a random with ridiculous power level but to have a friend/bodyward with insane power.

Nekomamushi and Inuarashi are also Scabbards and also ended on Roger and Whitebeard's ship and now they're governors/kings of Zou.

With this said, I don't want to say that Denjiro/Scopper Gaban will be stronger than Oden but only a example.
 
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Homelander

Kaido didn't put tabs on any of them. Hence Kawamatsu was able to remain hidden for so many years with Hiyori. Hell, the Shimotsuki clan fell 2 years after Kozuki. So it wasn't a clean sweep.

I think Denjiro went after Moriah after he stole Ryuuma's sword and Corpse. He went to East Blue to see Kouzaburou.
Well he got caught right. He probably had bounty to capture rest of the scabbards.

Asura douji and denjiro clever disguised like you said.

Asura douji changed his name to his old mountain bandit name since tracking a person on mountain is really hard. Asura douji could easily hide in mountain and not bother day today affair of beast pirates.

I dunno what denjiro did in last two decades because both kawa and asura tried their best to help anything to silently rebel.

I hope to see denjiro by end of this flashback helping out other scabbards.
 
The fans in youtube also loved Oden. Some hilarious comments:

"I don’t think this man O D. En was beat by Kaido in a fair fight. Chances are Kaido said something like “I bet you’re not man enough to take a bath in a giant bowl of oden.” Then Oden said “Bet, I do that every morning.” Kaido whipped up the oden and Oden hopped in. He gave zero fcks about the heat and decided to take a nap. That’s when Kaido heated up the oden with his dragon breath and boiled Oden to death while he was sleeping and dreaming about all the women he cucked from Kaido. Absolute legend"

"Oden the type of guy to bark back at a dog"

"Your all focusing on the upcoming big war while I’m more curious about the Harem wars."

"And they got jealous seeing Momo with Nami and Robin...imagine it was Oden..."

"Sanji needs to learn senpai Oden's secret on how to to get girls"


"Oden the OG pimp of wano. He's already top 10 character"

"The VIRGIN OROCHI VS. THE CHAD ODEN"
 

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This koshiro =denjiro debate is really interesting.

I still believe they might be cousins or related to each other. Even tashigi looks like kuina.

I dont think denjiro would have left wano unless he planned to search for his lost family in east blue. Now it hardly does make any sense if koshiro in chapter 0 had a child in east blue . Why did he go back again to fight kaido .

Also wont kinemon notice the same sword used by his friend. Remember he fought against zoro for shusui sword. Wont it rause alarm if he saw zoro using his old friends sword . Again lot of question.

Denjiro is koshiro has lot of plothole.

All i think is wado has replicas when it got stolen not surprising i guess if hitetsu planned to make another one.
Exactly.
That's the only flaw with that theory, Kinemon or the other Scabbards should have recognized Wado like Shuusi was.
 
Dude... he's still a child and has to mature/grow up.
That is not scooper gaban dude. What’s the obsession with scooper? Had his name ever appeared in the manga? Why I see his name pop up everytime someone new is being revealed? Do you think we’ll meet another prominent roger pirate after we already met the first mate? Does that seem like odas writing to you
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Exactly.
That's the only flaw with that theory, Kinemon or the other Scabbards should have recognized Wado like Shuusi was.
Hiyori and tengu noticed it and that’s enough. Kin’emon only cared about Shusui
 
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MD Zolo

Exactly.
That's the only flaw with that theory, Kinemon or the other Scabbards should have recognized Wado like Shuusi was.
It is a flaw, but not a very big flaw. Kin'emon recognized Shusui because it is the most famous sword of Wano. On top of that, now we know that it is a black blade (and there is a scarcity of those). So it is easy for Kin'emon to recognize it.

Wado on the other hand is no more famous than Enma. And we saw that Kin'emon et al. don't react to Enma or Ame no Habakiri.
 
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