Can we please stop tagging the wrong people and focus on what’s happening with @Go D. Trussop?? 
[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 2 - Marineford
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his biggest strenght is in constant talking and dragging others into arguments.
@Lindltaylor
You are the first Miller claimer IIRC and if what @Flower asserts is correct and Drago is well renowned for inserting them inside his games then you could be leaning more Town than not to me.
The catch is that there are two miller claims here right? The possibility that both are scums looks feeble to me, high risk strategy, which would imply Miller role exists in this game if so, and if that's the case I would generally trust the first miller claim less than the second. The second miller claim looks more unbeneficial for scum since one doesn't simply find many games featuring two millers IIRC, less scummy out of the two, and yet there's still ground to apply consistent WIFOM thanks to the fact it's generally conceived as unbeneficial, and still get a bodily Cop coverage.
You are the first Miller claimer IIRC and if what @Flower asserts is correct and Drago is well renowned for inserting them inside his games then you could be leaning more Town than not to me.
The catch is that there are two miller claims here right? The possibility that both are scums looks feeble to me, high risk strategy, which would imply Miller role exists in this game if so, and if that's the case I would generally trust the first miller claim less than the second. The second miller claim looks more unbeneficial for scum since one doesn't simply find many games featuring two millers IIRC, less scummy out of the two, and yet there's still ground to apply consistent WIFOM thanks to the fact it's generally conceived as unbeneficial, and still get a bodily Cop coverage.
I like how you asked this question so genuinely lol. But yeah, that's basically the reason he gave Fuji when Fuji questioned him about how many town reads he had.
I mean that can also qualify as TMI @Go D. Usopp ™ Don't know why you are justifying your reads by saying this forum has the worst collaborative town play.
I mean that can also qualify as TMI @Go D. Usopp ™ Don't know why you are justifying your reads by saying this forum has the worst collaborative town play.
dont read half my post and leave the other half
i made it clear, so let me say it again in easier words
there CANNOT be 4 mafia AND 1 SK in this game as this will DESTROY town.
there can however be 3 mafia (leaning 3 admirals), AND a semi-SK (leaning BB, who does not have fully consistent kills)
now @Lindltaylor what part of this is me going in circles? i'd also like to hear ur thoughts on nat
i made it clear, so let me say it again in easier words
there CANNOT be 4 mafia AND 1 SK in this game as this will DESTROY town.
there can however be 3 mafia (leaning 3 admirals), AND a semi-SK (leaning BB, who does not have fully consistent kills)
now @Lindltaylor what part of this is me going in circles? i'd also like to hear ur thoughts on nat
You can trust whatever miller claim you want. You reasoning for suspecting the first one, is simply because you think the second miller claim is unlikely to be scum. However, your reasoning doesn't apply to all scenarios as scum usually refrain from coming out as a miller anyway. Also, If that's your reasoning for suspecting the first one, it's immediately invalid because in my post, I encouraged other millers to come out.
So by your reasoning scum wouldn't want another miller to come out simply because it would make them look suspicious. Then by that reasoning, they're better off not claiming miller at all. However, I went against both, I came out as miller and told other millers to come out. So unless I'm scum with suicidal tendencies, there's no merit for me as scum in doing what I did by your reasoning.
I gave my thoughts on Nat, I think she's suspicious cause she might have intentionally pretended to not see anything suspicious in you guessing the exact abilities of a role in a game that you never played in.
So by your reasoning scum wouldn't want another miller to come out simply because it would make them look suspicious. Then by that reasoning, they're better off not claiming miller at all. However, I went against both, I came out as miller and told other millers to come out. So unless I'm scum with suicidal tendencies, there's no merit for me as scum in doing what I did by your reasoning.
I gave my thoughts on Nat, I think she's suspicious cause she might have intentionally pretended to not see anything suspicious in you guessing the exact abilities of a role in a game that you never played in.
usopp says am town cause all of my reads are nulll
proceeds to town read half of the active players
@Go D. Usopp ™ what are you doing...
proceeds to town read half of the active players
@Go D. Usopp ™ what are you doing...
well its called reads for a reason. its not confirmed yet, but these r ppl i would like to play off of
its more important for a townie to realize his fellow townies rather than try to hunt scum alone when he doesnt even trust his allies
uhh idk how to put this simply. town players here dont play together collectively as town. they r paranoid easily off anything and dont rly dig deep and see why would scum do this or that. they rely mostly on claims to confirm themselves instead of good town play, and they just mash actions one ppl they dont like. if their action failed they get even more paranoid.
the vanilla game i played yesterday showed me how disorganized town is here. in this game i figured they will do the same and just keep sending abilities at night and play like lone wolves instead of like a pack of townies, so im trying to help us have a staple pool of townies b4 i die.
yes based off their interactions with me and others
its more important for a townie to realize his fellow townies rather than try to hunt scum alone when he doesnt even trust his allies
uhh idk how to put this simply. town players here dont play together collectively as town. they r paranoid easily off anything and dont rly dig deep and see why would scum do this or that. they rely mostly on claims to confirm themselves instead of good town play, and they just mash actions one ppl they dont like. if their action failed they get even more paranoid.
the vanilla game i played yesterday showed me how disorganized town is here. in this game i figured they will do the same and just keep sending abilities at night and play like lone wolves instead of like a pack of townies, so im trying to help us have a staple pool of townies b4 i die.
yes based off their interactions with me and others
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