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Aight, cool, so people defending themselves is bad, got it. From now on, LC, when people start coming after you right away and challenging the most benign shit you say, I’ll immediately vote for YOU if you speak up in your own defense. It’s this kind of “logic” that has propelled town to so many guaranteed losses in the past, so if it ain’t working, don’t fix it.
I wont spend most of the day defending myself
this dp ,thats most of what you have done . look at your history and I could guarantee 80% of it is a convo with usopp for putting a simple red flag on you.
and no vote has even been placed on you. in otherwords you didnt need to but you did.

I will welcome any vote on me personally .
and again
just simply noting this behavior with no vote placed on you, you are tunneling again.

I have heard multiple people call me sus this game. I dont think I need to defend myself against every claim as you are doing right now.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
I wont spend most of the day defending myself
this dp ,thats most of what you have done . look at your history and I could guarantee 80% of it is a convo with usopp for putting a simple red flag on you.
and no vote has even been placed on you. in otherwords you didnt need to but you did.

I will welcome any vote on me personally .
and again
just simply noting this behavior with no vote placed on you, you are tunneling again.

I have heard multiple people call me sus this game. I dont think I need to defend myself against every claim as you are doing right now.
Whatever, man...this isn’t a productive conversation anymore, and anything else I say is gonna feed into your confirmation bias about defending myself. Keep analyzing my interactions with Usopp while my vote and publicly stated biggest sus is on Nat, and please keep acting like I’ve done nothing but defend myself.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Anyway, since we're moving slow now, either people are busy or Susopp is really scum and no one is tryna save him, bar maybe a slight defense by Salah, or scum are content with his lynch.
I find the votes piling on Nat now, right when we are approaching the end day phase, weird to say the least. Maybe Nat here is scum, or Usopp is. Maybe both.

Like Lanji and FLower have mentioned, neither defended themselves properly and these last minute suspicions thrown at each other looks like a distancing attempt.

its means you spent more time arguing with someone you thought was townie for placing a redflag
than you did hunting
in other words, its cautious gameplay.
This ^
tunneling a player whole phase and town reading them doesn't sound too good. In this regard Usopp also looks bad, like he's testing the waters, going at players, but town reading them later on.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
he is staying under the radar
2 of his three votes went unexplained
and the 3rd one was the popular vote at the time .
That's not really staying under the radar, is it? Maybe we disagree on the definition. Someone who wants to stay under the radar won't make posts like those. At least that's what I think. What was his last vote? Was it Nat? Because votes are going on Nat now too, while before only Susopp was the main wagon.


to the other point , could go either way
they will try and push someone else rather than outwardly defend usopp.
Yes a slight defense here and there as I said. A push on someone else or something like that.



Whoever we pick as the main wagon, we need more votes there.
Stop parroting me Flowa. But yes, we need to.
 
I find the votes piling on Nat now, right when we are approaching the end day phase, weird to say the least. Maybe Nat here is scum, or Usopp is. Maybe both.

Like Lanji and FLower have mentioned, neither defended themselves properly and these last minute suspicions thrown at each other looks like a distancing attempt.


This ^
tunneling a player whole phase and town reading them doesn't sound too good. In this regard Usopp also looks bad, like he's testing the waters, going at players, but town reading them later on.
Who would you go for today? Nat or Usopp?
 
I find the votes piling on Nat now, right when we are approaching the end day phase, weird to say the least. Maybe Nat here is scum, or Usopp is. Maybe both.

Like Lanji and FLower have mentioned, neither defended themselves properly and these last minute suspicions thrown at each other looks like a distancing attempt.


This ^
tunneling a player whole phase and town reading them doesn't sound too good. In this regard Usopp also looks bad, like he's testing the waters, going at players, but town reading them later on.
usopp defended himself
nat has said nothing
hopefully its not bedtime
:milaugh:
 
That's not really staying under the radar, is it? Maybe we disagree on the definition. Someone who wants to stay under the radar won't make posts like those. At least that's what I think. What was his last vote? Was it Nat? Because votes are going on Nat now too, while before only Susopp was the main wagon.



Yes a slight defense here and there as I said. A push on someone else or something like that.




Stop parroting me Flowa. But yes, we need to.
yup his last vote was nat
prev was usopp.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
I find the votes piling on Nat now, right when we are approaching the end day phase, weird to say the least. Maybe Nat here is scum, or Usopp is. Maybe both.
Yes, as I just said lol
Because votes are going on Nat now too, while before only Susopp was the main wagon.
I found both of them being scummy for different reasons. Sussop tryna give town reads to half the players and pocket easy townies, and I can't overlook that 'guess' of the abilities. Nat's insistence on it being just a lucky guess, like she knows they are different in this game, and just laughing off all the sus on her.



Like Lanji and FLower have mentioned, neither defended themselves properly and these last minute suspicions thrown at each other looks like a distancing attempt.
Could be. Iirc tho Nat voted Susopp off the bat and was always going along with the idea of lynching him tho. It can be a distancing attempt, or maybe they didn't expect to be the main suses D1.
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Who would you go for today? Nat or Usopp?
We really have to analyze a lot here, I'm gonna be quick as I have a class in 10 mins, and I probably won't be back by EoD

Usopp:
- He had the most interactions so far.
- He deflected suspicion by town reading or pocketing his suspects.
- He has the most town reads, but I haven't liked any of the reasons he's given so far. Like I said, this seems mostly scum aligned because scum don't tend to give reasons for what they already know, as opposed to a townie who would give a lot of reasons to establish another player's alignemnet.
- His suspects are not my suspects, unfortunately. I clear example is Lanji, I have a positive read on him, while he puts him in 50/50. I know I'm town, so a difference in reads should be noted.

Nat:
- I don't think she's pushed for reads or suspects this game. I can't remember much.
- Her defense for Usopp looks bizarre. I mean why defend a player you want to vote off?
- She hasn't really defended herself either.
- It really doesn't help that Usopp and Nat are both going at each other this late in the game. I'm honestly conflicted.

So instead look from an information stand point:
Who defended Nat? Who defended Usopp? Who have they town read and scum read? It's obvious that many players want both gone.

From a scummy stand point, Nat definitely looks worse, hasn't really defended herself and hasn't scum hunted enough. Information wise, Usopp is better, especially considering the reads he's given and the Salah defense of him.

I think I will stick with my Usopp vote.
 
We really have to analyze a lot here, I'm gonna be quick as I have a class in 10 mins, and I probably won't be back by EoD

Usopp:
- He had the most interactions so far.
- He deflected suspicion by town reading or pocketing his suspects.
- He has the most town reads, but I haven't liked any of the reasons he's given so far. Like I said, this seems mostly scum aligned because scum don't tend to give reasons for what they already know, as opposed to a townie who would give a lot of reasons to establish another player's alignemnet.
- His suspects are not my suspects, unfortunately. I clear example is Lanji, I have a positive read on him, while he puts him in 50/50. I know I'm town, so a difference in reads should be noted.

Nat:
- I don't think she's pushed for reads or suspects this game. I can't remember much.
- Her defense for Usopp looks bizarre. I mean why defend a player you want to vote off?
- She hasn't really defended herself either.
- It really doesn't help that Usopp and Nat are both going at each other this late in the game. I'm honestly conflicted.

So instead look from an information stand point:
Who defended Nat? Who defended Usopp? Who have they town read and scum read? It's obvious that many players want both gone.

From a scummy stand point, Nat definitely looks worse, hasn't really defended herself and hasn't scum hunted enough. Information wise, Usopp is better, especially considering the reads he's given and the Salah defense of him.

I think I will stick with my Usopp vote.
usopp's reason for putting me there (50/50) is not bad
I kept my vote on him for a perceived slip
and did nothing else
he was the only one to call that out but I did that to see a reaction from other people on his lynch.

usopp and nat dont have solid reasons on their vote specifically nat who voted usopp close to the start of the phase.
 
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