Who is this "Oden"?


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Now that we know Vegapunk ran experiments on Kaido, there's room to further speculate for a Queen/Vegapunk connection, as well as how Queen and Kaido first met.

Maybe Queen was such in awe of the results of data they got from Kaido, that he played a role in him regaining his freedom, or at the very least chose to follow Kaido once he managed to free himself, and that's how he parted ways with Judge/Vegapunk.
 

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Oh, lol. Didn't think about this before.

Maybe it's just Scabbards imagination because they are so fucked up.

It's Yamato. She didn't meet scabbards yet.
 
That’s not how timelines work dude

Can Oden change the events he sees in the future he goes to? Yes? Well there you have it, Oden just jumped through multiple timelines... like how traveling to the past works

C’mon people, the entire thing was just semantics, it’s the same thing
Cap. There is something call past present and future. Oden going to the future and then returning to his timeline is not him traveling to the past since that current past is this odens present. Can tokis send oden future into the past? No. So there ends that
 
Cap. One is an ability being able to place you at any point at any past. And the other is a temporary ability placing you in the future only for it to where off bringing you back to your current timeline
Let me ask if someone has the ability to move very quickly for 500 meters in one specific direction and can’t turn a corner while running

then another person is basically the flash, can run forever and turn any direction they want and everything

Do both these people have the power of “Superspeed” or not? Does only the flash guy have superspeed and the other person has “Temporary unidirectional half kilometer quickness”? It’s not superspeed... It’s those other words that look like superspeed but they are not

What exactly is the difference between what you think Toki is doing and person who just has the ability to travel back and forth?
 
Bepo - Created a storyline of his brother being killed by a Big Mom

Sanji - The entire WCI storyline is being completed here in wano you think Sanji won’t have a role to play

Momo - He was “there” 20 years ago and this time he’ll be here himself during Kaidos defeat as the general of the Samurai Army
Those are your other 4. Yamato, Bepo, Sanji, Momo

Yamato, there's some evidence, ill give you that one.

Momo- He's a child and not fighting Kaido... let's be real

Sanji- Not part of New Gen, definitely doesnt have the CoA to do anything to Kaido. also will probably be fighting a YC so definitely wont have much stamina left after that as well. Entire WCI storyline is done and over with and quite frankly a waste of 2 years of OP.

Bepo- For obvious reasons
 
What if Hiyori ate the time fruit and somehow grant her the power to communicate with people from the past that she met by bringing a hologram or ghost of their past self to the present. :smart:
 
The 9 were the scabbards. It even alludes to the 20 years.
Yes 9 shadows woven together through twenty years of moonlit nights.

The scabbards weren’t brought together during the twenty years of Kaidos reign. They were brought together beforehand.

So that line alone doesn’t refer to them and the other line of bringing forth a glorious Dawn can’t refer to them either.
 
Those are your other 4. Yamato, Bepo, Sanji, Momo

Yamato, there's some evidence, ill give you that one.

Momo- He's a child and not fighting Kaido... let's be real

Sanji- Not part of New Gen, definitely doesnt have the CoA to do anything to Kaido. also will probably be fighting a YC so definitely wont have much stamina left after that as well. Entire WCI storyline is done and over with and quite frankly a waste of 2 years of OP.

Bepo- For obvious reasons
So instead there’s going to be 6 of new gen + Yamato instead of 9? You’re not making sense
 
Cap. There is something call past present and future. Oden going to the future and then returning to his timeline is not him traveling to the past since that current past is this odens present. Can tokis send oden future into the past? No. So there ends that
can a regular time traveler go to the future then go back to the present time he came from with his powers of traveling through the past and future?

Well? Can they do this? Does this look exactly like what you are describing?
 
It's @Paperchampion23 versus everybody :noo::suresure:
What'd you start lmao
Its a game of telephone gone wrong. I literally did not say there weren't Zoro vs Kaido theories before Enma. I said people haven't proved the majority of the fanbase didn't support ZvK up until literally last year. Sample size is low, but here are some examples from this site from people, like @Ice devil slayer , who clearly made the fucking polls, showing that up until Chapter 999, people on this very site thought Zoro vs King was still possible



Even before this:



Oh, and look who voted for Zoro vs King, the one and only @Seth , who insulted people verbally for this fucking observation!




And just to prove to you these aren't "biased anti-zoro fans", a month later @bennbeckman came out with this poll:



Very clearly what this spells out to me is that while people want Zoro up there, a decent amount of people also believe he may get forced back into another fight, ala King, and "certain people" actually have no balls (Seth!) to stick to a side because they are afraid of the pushback on their thoughts.


Ahh I thinks its a mix of Zoro fans holding loyalty at a high regard as well as their faith in ZKK.
It doesn't help that you're also wearing a Zoro avi after months of nudity:milaugh:
Idk how this all started but its a solid fifty five pages of you vs zoro bois
I work from home due to Covid no skin off my back rofl
 
Now that we know Vegapunk ran experiments on Kaido, there's room to further speculate for a Queen/Vegapunk connection, as well as how Queen and Kaido first met.

Maybe Queen was such in awe of the results of data they got from Kaido, that he played a role in him regaining his freedom, or at the very least chose to follow Kaido once he managed to free himself, and that's how he parted ways with Judge/Vegapunk.
Good theory. :cheers:
 
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