If that explosion was strong enough to blow off Pero’s arm WITH his devil fruit protecting him, then there’s no way Pedro wasnt blown into 1000 pieces and scattered across WCI 
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But he is a a veteran CoA user and also read my theory about the logical explanation Oda could give. Whatever may be the case bunny for the stew, not for the crew. Wow this rhymes LOL
It’s a fantasy world with superhumans. Brownbeard, Usopp and Nami-in-Sanji’s body all survived an explosion as big as Pedro’s, and Brownbeard and Usopp certainly aren’t as strong as him- Sanji’s body could well have been tougher, although with Nami in it it wouldn’t have been able to use CoA. Look at the size of that explosion compared to the size of the ship that can hold giant sized children quite easily. About the same as the Pedro blast
The blast could have killed Pedro, it could also not have. There’s no hard and fast rule here. Luffy can cause more damage with a punch than that explosion, but he doesn’t leave a trail of dead bodies in his wake.
I tend to think he’s alive because Perospero could survive it, Pekom’s story with Pedro being the only one capable of calming him down never really got concluded and it’s OP where death is rare. But then Oda did kill off Yasu- much more explicitl- with it being compared directly to Pedro. That could well mean Oda’s started killing to reflect the serious endgame stage of the story we’re at. We won’t know for certain until Pekoms shows up again, I think.
The blast could have killed Pedro, it could also not have. There’s no hard and fast rule here. Luffy can cause more damage with a punch than that explosion, but he doesn’t leave a trail of dead bodies in his wake.
I tend to think he’s alive because Perospero could survive it, Pekom’s story with Pedro being the only one capable of calming him down never really got concluded and it’s OP where death is rare. But then Oda did kill off Yasu- much more explicitl- with it being compared directly to Pedro. That could well mean Oda’s started killing to reflect the serious endgame stage of the story we’re at. We won’t know for certain until Pekoms shows up again, I think.
It’s a fantasy world with superhumans. Brownbeard, Usopp and Nami-in-Sanji’s body all survived an explosion as big as Pedro’s, and Brownbeard and Usopp certainly aren’t as strong as him- Sanji’s body could well have been tougher, although with Nami in it it wouldn’t have been able to use CoA. Look at the size of that explosion compared to the size of the ship that can hold giant sized children quite easily. About the same as the Pedro blast
The blast could have killed Pedro, it could also not have. There’s no hard and fast rule here. Luffy can cause more damage with a punch than that explosion, but he doesn’t leave a trail of dead bodies in his wake.
I tend to think he’s alive because Perospero could survive it, Pekom’s story with Pedro being the only one capable of calming him down never really got concluded and it’s OP where death is rare. But then Oda did kill off Yasu- much more explicitl- with it being compared directly to Pedro. That could well mean Oda’s started killing to reflect the serious endgame stage of the story we’re at. We won’t know for certain until Pekoms shows up again, I think.
The blast could have killed Pedro, it could also not have. There’s no hard and fast rule here. Luffy can cause more damage with a punch than that explosion, but he doesn’t leave a trail of dead bodies in his wake.
I tend to think he’s alive because Perospero could survive it, Pekom’s story with Pedro being the only one capable of calming him down never really got concluded and it’s OP where death is rare. But then Oda did kill off Yasu- much more explicitl- with it being compared directly to Pedro. That could well mean Oda’s started killing to reflect the serious endgame stage of the story we’re at. We won’t know for certain until Pekoms shows up again, I think.
not to mention that if he survived Pero, the person who was right next to him, would know about.
I have to agree with this. Regardless of Carrot joining or not, Pedro surviving would be garbage. It added a sense of real stakes, something the story is severely lacking in. With all the foreshadowing of Pedro's death, and no foreshadowing of his return, it would just seem like a cop out. It would retroactively make WCI worse.
That's possible, Wanda should've known better since she seems more mature than Carrot does... But joining Carrot knowing the reason still is bugging...
Like Pell and Perospero who both survived a lethal explosion, Pedro also has the Will of the P... Should he still be alive, at least we should expect that he's been amputated and also nerfed as well...
Will of the P is indeed a bad writing, yes... But it is what it is, it's a thing in the story for whatever reason it is for, like M3 before the timeskip...
But there's this possibility that Oda won't shelve the idea of a Sulong Pedro...
I'm with most of the people who believes that Pedro should stay dead... Will of the P must be obsolete...
If that explosion was strong enough to blow off Pero’s arm WITH his devil fruit protecting him, then there’s no way Pedro wasnt blown into 1000 pieces and scattered across WCI
Will of the P is indeed a bad writing, yes... But it is what it is, it's a thing in the story for whatever reason it is for, like M3 before the timeskip...
But there's this possibility that Oda won't shelve the idea of a Sulong Pedro...
I'm with most of the people who believes that Pedro should stay dead... Will of the P must be obsolete...
I still saw several disc on why Carrot didn't fight BP "normally" like the other raid participants : people tend to forget that she can't turn Sulong indoor, she won't be at her maximum power.
Also, there's a topic where Yamato "constantly sticking" with Shinobu & Momo is a bad nextnakama hint and built up her relationship & chance with Momo instead of SH.
What if you view it from another perspective : Yamato is faithfully following Luffy's (her "captain") order.
Think Luffy's order for Franky on Enies Lobby.
Also, there's a topic where Yamato "constantly sticking" with Shinobu & Momo is a bad nextnakama hint and built up her relationship & chance with Momo instead of SH.
What if you view it from another perspective : Yamato is faithfully following Luffy's (her "captain") order.
Think Luffy's order for Franky on Enies Lobby.
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Beyond that, the amount of time that’s passed since her introduction in the real world is significantly longer than the time that’s elapsed in the story...she’s only been with them for some number of minutes, and the action on and under the roof still hasn’t reached its zenith (when I assume she’ll be a part of the final round) to the point that it’s not like she currently has something better to do. If she ends up facing off against her dad and Big Mom, that should lay this particular argument to rest.
That’s also not true. Perospero literally said that if the moon wasn’t covered up by clouds, Carrot and Wanda would have beaten him easily. But the fact that it was covered and they reverted to their base form and the fact that Perospero annihilated the two in their base forms, shows that there is a massive difference in strength between Sulong and base form Wanda and Carrot.
If there was hardly a difference in strength between Sulong and base Carrot and Wanda as you are suggesting, then the differences in how the 2 handled Peros in Sulong (chp. ~997) compared to how they handled him in base (chp. 1006) wouldn’t have been as stark. Perospero wouldn’t have had any reason to give his quote on how it was a close call for him because of the moon being covered.
If there was hardly a difference in strength between Sulong and base Carrot and Wanda as you are suggesting, then the differences in how the 2 handled Peros in Sulong (chp. ~997) compared to how they handled him in base (chp. 1006) wouldn’t have been as stark. Perospero wouldn’t have had any reason to give his quote on how it was a close call for him because of the moon being covered.
This is not true. Peros would have won anyway. As a good villain he was only discouraging them. We're talking about a guy who, while not at the level of a YC, has a similar level (vet level) to most Warlords like Jinbe, Hancock or Crocodile. Do you really think Carrot and Wanda would have won? Carrot is not even at the level of the weakest Tobiroppo. Sulong is overrated, just like most minks. The only truly powerful mink warriors are Inu and Neko. Carrot should face a headliner, such as Bao Huang.
And by this statement "if the base form is not strong, the Sulong will not be strong either" I mean that even if it’s stronger than the base form, it will still be relatively weak. It’s proportional. The stronger the base form, the stronger the Sulong form.
And by this statement "if the base form is not strong, the Sulong will not be strong either" I mean that even if it’s stronger than the base form, it will still be relatively weak. It’s proportional. The stronger the base form, the stronger the Sulong form.
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I would rate Peros as pbly as the second strongest big mom crewmate, only after Katakuri. Having said that, he would have defeated Sulong Carrot and Wanda with mid difficulty. As an analogy, the three musketeers and Roddy and BB (2 of the strongest guardians under Neko) was unable to defeat Jack who is the third strongest crewmate of another Yonko.
Hence with Wanda and Sulong, Carrot is nowhere near Yonko Commanders. Pbly with Sulong she would be a good matchup for the likes of Daifuku or Mont'dor or Amande
Hence with Wanda and Sulong, Carrot is nowhere near Yonko Commanders. Pbly with Sulong she would be a good matchup for the likes of Daifuku or Mont'dor or Amande
While I actually agree with you on this argument, I do feel the need to point out that the official translation changes the wording of Peros's speech so that he doesn't actually say he would have lost. He just says they needed su long to "stand a chance", and it comes across as a taunt about their power up being unreliable.
If Pero was 2nd strongest he would be a sweet commander. Based on the hierarchy, he should be weaker than Snack. I assume he's the strongest non sweet commander member, making him more along the lines of Who's Who. Carrot would definitely lose alone, but 2 on 1 with Wanda and both in su long, I could see them pulling off an extreme diff win.
If Pero was 2nd strongest he would be a sweet commander. Based on the hierarchy, he should be weaker than Snack. I assume he's the strongest non sweet commander member, making him more along the lines of Who's Who. Carrot would definitely lose alone, but 2 on 1 with Wanda and both in su long, I could see them pulling off an extreme diff win.
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