General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Sigran101]

I don't want to argue about it because I know you won't agree. Let's just wait and see. I think this was the chapter that sets up Carrot's big moment, not the moment itself.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Maybe Carrot finds the Snow logia still on the Strawhats ship and recovers (lol I actually wish)

Seriously though, I'm not sure how Carrot can fight back at this point, even remotely in a unique fashion that determines her role here.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Maybe Carrot finds the Snow logia still on the Strawhats ship and recovers (lol I actually wish)

Seriously though, I'm not sure how Carrot can fight back at this point, even remotely in a unique fashion that determines her role here.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Not sure why you are spamming me. I realistically know what is happening with Carrot. I'm just saying what would have been nice for the character before Yamato took complete precedent.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Not sure why you are spamming me. I realistically know what is happening with Carrot. I'm just saying what would have been nice for the character before Yamato took complete precedent.

Did you even read your post? I bolded the part.
If you can't understand say something. smh

 

[langitbarat]

One small advantage about Yamato that some other candidates don't have is named attacks. She has 2 named attacks in a dozen chapters of appearances, granted, her intro is in the middle of a war.

This may be insignificant, but it is a good thing for her characterization.

 

[Shift]

Not sure why you are spamming me. I realistically know what is happening with Carrot. I'm just saying what would have been nice for the character before Yamato took complete precedent.

That's a pure troll, through and through. Just stick them in your ignore list and don't let 'em bug you.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That's a pure troll, through and through. Just stick them in your ignore list and don't let 'em bug you.

Pot calling kettle black.
Stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
But it's good to know ur triggered.

 

[Staticshadic]

Maybe Carrot finds the Snow logia still on the Strawhats ship and recovers (lol I actually wish)

Seriously though, I'm not sure how Carrot can fight back at this point, even remotely in a unique fashion that determines her role here.

Even with snow snow fruit Perospero has Haki to counter that ability

 

[langitbarat]

One small advantage about Carrot that some other candidates don't have is unique/funny quirk.

If we consider Tama as real candidate, the only hint I can think of as small insignificant advantage is her wore Luffy's straw hat (Nami & Robin did too).

Also, this may sound self-defeating, but Yamato having much worse "treatment" than Katakuri is a good thing. Katakuri gets special Paramecia, awakening, and advanced Haki, while Yamato don't have anything special. With this, her addition to the crew won't affect the power balance/feats that much and won't overshadow previous characters. Law have checked all nakama requirements, but I think he won't join because of this reason too (not just because he's Luffy's rival).

 

[dizzy2341]

Now if Yamato were to join(I'm already on the train), it would be a very interesting contrast to Jinbe. A very short, explosive joining.

Jinbe is experience while Yamato is not.

Just an interesting quick thought.

If you want contrast then Carrot has far, far more of that to Jinbe than Yamao. As many have mentioned before:

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By @LumiDSulong

1. Carrot's a mink vs Jinbe a fishman
2. Carrot's a young rookie vs Jinbe an old veteran
3. Carrot's a girl vs Jinbe a man
4. Carrot lives 10, 000m above sea level vs Jinbe who lived 10, 000m below sea level
5. Carrot can float and uses electric based attacks vs Jinbe who can breathe underwater + turbo swim and uses water based attacks
6. Carrot's mentor led a crew called the Nox (Night Pirates) vs Jinbe who led a crew called the Sun Pirates
7. Carrot's peppy and excitable vs Jinbe who's serious and placid
8. Carrot ran away from Zou for adventure vs Jinbe who refused to leave his duties time and time again

Hey Dizzy,

I always enjoy your takes on Carrot, as I am a huge fan and supporter of her joining the crew, been following your takes on her since OJ.

I’m curious as to what you think this potential power up could be, that you mentioned in your post? Could it perhaps be a devil fruit like the Yuki Yuki No Mi?

Hey Seabass, I remember you from OJ. Great to see you again, but it was also smart of you to have stayed away from this dump for so long. Feel free to DM me whenever.

About Carrot's potential power up though, I really dunno. I loved the snow bunny theory but that ship sailed back in WCI. I haven't seen it as a possibility for a long time now, although I'd love if it somehow managed to become a thing. I don't see her eating any other df at this point either. It would've been perfect if she ate one at the beginning of WCI and then we got to see her learning how to use it all this while, but it's kinda too late for that IMO.

I've got a wild idea relating to memories, but that involves Sulong. Perhaps, she could even get haki and we see some black lightning. Would be pretty sick. But I don't really have much clue what she'd get other than that, so we'll have to wait and see what Oda chooses to go with, but the crumbs have been left for something.

 

[Buusatan94]

Neither Yamato nor Carrot joining would be enjoyable to me, especially Yamato as long as she do the same mad Oden fangirl act.

Neither have a big dream and ambition of their own, nor really fit in the crew, and Yamato's design isn't unique enough with her being one of the many female characters with Nami's face and eyes shape.

 

[Sigran101]

So it looks like in the official, Pero isn't saying he almost lost, he's just making fun of them for needing a weather dependent power up to stand a chance. I'm thinking this doesn't look like a new power up in that case. She'll probably just go Su Long again later.

 

[Rootbeer]

I don't want to argue about it because I know you won't agree. Let's just wait and see. I think this was the chapter that sets up Carrot's big moment, not the moment itself.

That supposedly big moment would be when exactly? From Carrot fans perspective, are the current events leading to the end of Wano with act 3 or a conclusion in 5 acts. No matter how you look at it Carrot's plotline is a side show, if ever she would need to become central to the war like Yamato.

 

[Sigran101]

That supposedly big moment would be when exactly? From Carrot fans perspective, are the current events leading to the end of Wano with act 3 or a conclusion in 5 acts. No matter how you look at it Carrot's plotline is a side show, if ever she would need to become central to the war like Yamato.

I've got no idea how many acts there are going to be, but I have no delusions about Carrot becoming as important to the arc as Yamato, though I do think Pero may end up being more important than he currently is. I think Carrot is going to end up being more like Jinbei where she isn't the focus of the arc she joins in. I think the one hangup I have about Carrot is that she hasn't had a storyarc that focuses on her, but there's enough else going for her in my opinion.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I've got no idea how many acts there are going to be, but I have no delusions about Carrot becoming as important to the arc as Yamato, though I do think Pero may end up being more important than he currently is. I think Carrot is going to end up being more like Jinbei where she isn't the focus of the arc she joins in. I think the one hangup I have about Carrot is that she hasn't had a storyarc that focuses on her, but there's enough else going for her in my opinion.

That’s a valid point about Jinbe, but he had a far more outsized impact in Marineford and the aftermath than Carrot has had in Wano...she would literally have to fend King and Queen off by herself to match the accomplishments he racked up in the Summit War. Additionally, he had more to do in the arcs he appeared following his introduction; this is Carrot’s third arc, and in all three, she’s been doing background work with no more than two shining moments, neither of which had any real meaning. It was always clear that Jinbe had a case to join the crew, but this thread is not the only piece of proof that the same isn’t true for Carrot.

 

[supaaasoup]

I agree with this completely. I don't know how someone can look at this and think it's bad for Carrot. After this chapter I think I'd put her at 50/50 with Yamato. I still think and hope that both will join though.

I have the same thought, I truly can't see it lessen her chance in this chapter, instead it gave her more spotlight, still not 100% convinced that she'll join but this chapter is still mean something.

and some addition I think yamato is the clearest here but it feels too obvious to be true, if oda gives her something to suffer in this the present time then it'll be cool, she's been too fun now she needs a defeat.

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just so you know I'm on the yamato's train but it just too one the nose, I need some contrast from yamato

 

[vikas]

I agree with this completely. I don't know how someone can look at this and think it's bad for Carrot. After this chapter I think I'd put her at 50/50 with Yamato. I still think and hope that both will join though.

its bad because she is getting offpaneled in most of her scenes now. Oda is not spending any time on her. This is not a mystery.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

I've got no idea how many acts there are going to be, but I have no delusions about Carrot becoming as important to the arc as Yamato, though I do think Pero may end up being more important than he currently is. I think Carrot is going to end up being more like Jinbei where she isn't the focus of the arc she joins in. I think the one hangup I have about Carrot is that she hasn't had a storyarc that focuses on her, but there's enough else going for her in my opinion.

Introductory arc is more critical... Robin and Jinbe had significant impact to the ongoing storyline when they were introduced... Even if we consider Jinbe's name mention way back in AP arc, he's already significant in a sense that he was the one "responsible" for having Arlong in EB... Even if Yamato doesn't immediately join, she already made a significant impact to the ongoing storyline...

Might sound selective and hateful towards Carrot's chances of joining but that's how it is... She's never been impactful to the story since her introduction... Really reminds me more of Rebecca's situation in Dressrosa... Besides, I don't see how comparable Carrot's current focus to Jinbe's focus during WCI arc... Jinbe's focus was very decent that time, never been a side character...

But let's see what will happen when Pedro returns with his likely nerfed 382M Sulong...

 

[NotTommy]

I do not believe she would blame any of the Strawhats too. You don't have to justify yourself about anything, lets be clear i hate Carrot.

I just want to leave a thought out there. Taking into account that Carrot stated she knows Pedro's death is related to this fight or this ongoing war and seeing as she got defeated. What would happen in her mind in the hypothetical scenario where the raid on Onigashima would end up in failure and the alliance defeated.

She'd probably blame her self to an extent for not following through after the sacrifice but in regards to how she'd see everyone else, I don't know. Interesting scenario.