Fanclub Temple of The Grandmaster Zoro
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I agree this is an unconventional arc, but we should still expect Kaido to be the defeated last. Hell, Oda chose to delay Kaido's hybrid form so he could show the hybrid forms of the other Beast Pirates first. While Wano is unconventional, the formula of the arc antagonist falling after all their subordinates doesn't seem to have been broken.
How can Zoro come out of Wano a mid top tier and go on to fight Shiryuu who hasn't even proved himself to be a low top tier?
Burgess' opponent may well be Jimbe anyway (both are helmsmen and brawlers).
How can Zoro come out of Wano a mid top tier and go on to fight Shiryuu who hasn't even proved himself to be a low top tier?
Burgess' opponent may well be Jimbe anyway (both are helmsmen and brawlers).
Sanji will probably tag team Queen or fight against injured Jack/Peros, jumping from veteran lvl to YC1 is not realistic, even Luffy had not such treatment. King is Marcos opponent , Marco is worthy strength wise to be on the roof but he’s isn’t because he wants the New Gen to shine. So Marco will fight the second strongest King. Zoro vs Kaido is 1000x better than Zoro vs King in my opinion 
Never said Zoro would leave the Emperors to fight King.
King will come up to the dome and go after Luffy's head while he is without haki.
And you know fully well, that to reach Luffy, you have to first step over Zoro's dead body.
King will come up to the dome and go after Luffy's head while he is without haki.
And you know fully well, that to reach Luffy, you have to first step over Zoro's dead body.
- Base Yamato stalemated Ace
- Base Yamato stalemated Post Udon G2/G3 Luffy while acknowledged by Luffy to be holding back
By feats, Hybrid Yamato > Base Yamato >= Post Udon G2/G3 Luffy. Where does this idea that Yamato is not Commander level come from?
Vet level ace
G2/G3 Luffy is the easiest Luffy to the tank. Not a big feat. + Please Cinera, you are always doing deep reads thru story. You know what Yamato said. Luffy didn't even try.
By feats she is Veteran level for now.
Postponed 2 fights against Tobi Roppo and attacked the fodder number.
Not there yet Cin. Not saying she won't eventually become. It just doesn't look like it.
G2/G3 Luffy is the easiest Luffy to the tank. Not a big feat. + Please Cinera, you are always doing deep reads thru story. You know what Yamato said. Luffy didn't even try.
By feats she is Veteran level for now.
Postponed 2 fights against Tobi Roppo and attacked the fodder number.
Not there yet Cin. Not saying she won't eventually become. It just doesn't look like it.
Yes, this is the obvious assumption. Kaido should be defeated last and that should be our go to hypothesis.
However, if we choose to speculate, there is still sufficient information and incoming information that may prove otherwise.
It is a fifty-fifty IMO.
Most people are under the assumption, especially given the portrayal, that Shiryu will be as strong as Blackbeard.
If you believe Zoro and Luffy are tied or near each other, Blackbeard and Shiryu will follow suit.
Shiryu/Zoro saved from prison by Blackbeard/Luffy.
Shiryu/Zoro have cursed blood-lusted blades.
Magellan washed the entire BB pirates and it was said Shiryu is equally as strong as Magellan, so Pre-timeskip it isn't farfetched to say Shiryu could have done the same. On top of this, Shiryu has acquired a new power up just as Blackbeard has acquired a power up. Everything points to them being on an even keel, with the obvious edge to BB.
Basically, there is actual credence to say that Shiryu ~ Blackbeard.
If Sanji vs King goes through then having him fight the other bum-fucks on Blackbeards crew is a step down.
Not to mention that Sanji vs Queen has extensive support/evidence to back it. Especially with the recent chapter.
IMO Zoro leaves YC1+ and needs to beat Shiryu who is Admiral+
And Sanji leaves YC2+ and needs to beat Burgess/X? who is YC1-YC2
However, if we choose to speculate, there is still sufficient information and incoming information that may prove otherwise.
It is a fifty-fifty IMO.
Most people are under the assumption, especially given the portrayal, that Shiryu will be as strong as Blackbeard.
If you believe Zoro and Luffy are tied or near each other, Blackbeard and Shiryu will follow suit.
Shiryu/Zoro saved from prison by Blackbeard/Luffy.
Shiryu/Zoro have cursed blood-lusted blades.
Magellan washed the entire BB pirates and it was said Shiryu is equally as strong as Magellan, so Pre-timeskip it isn't farfetched to say Shiryu could have done the same. On top of this, Shiryu has acquired a new power up just as Blackbeard has acquired a power up. Everything points to them being on an even keel, with the obvious edge to BB.
Basically, there is actual credence to say that Shiryu ~ Blackbeard.
If Sanji vs King goes through then having him fight the other bum-fucks on Blackbeards crew is a step down.
Not to mention that Sanji vs Queen has extensive support/evidence to back it. Especially with the recent chapter.
IMO Zoro leaves YC1+ and needs to beat Shiryu who is Admiral+
And Sanji leaves YC2+ and needs to beat Burgess/X? who is YC1-YC2
Since the beginning I never thought that he would be worthy of being Zoros opponent. I think he’s a boring character with a boring fruit . His design is nice though.
I still hope that king is somehow a girl, I want a strong female YC1. Sorry for being off topic
gonna cry in the corner
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The same Ace that stalemated Jimbe.
Yamato was literally not attacking Luffy at all. She completely blocked all his attacks. Luffy didn't give it his all, but Yamato was holding back even more.
No, by feats she's above G2/G3 Luffy.
The Tobi Roppo were not her opponent, so Oda didn't want her to defeat them. This is like attacking Luffy for not defeating Page One/Ulti.
Yamato was literally not attacking Luffy at all. She completely blocked all his attacks. Luffy didn't give it his all, but Yamato was holding back even more.
No, by feats she's above G2/G3 Luffy.
The Tobi Roppo were not her opponent, so Oda didn't want her to defeat them. This is like attacking Luffy for not defeating Page One/Ulti.
This Luffy is trash. Luffy can't rival commanders without G4 sorry.
Don't flip the script Cin and don't leave part where she clearly states that Luffy didn't intend to hurt her.
She is not impressive enough to defeat a Commander.
King ordered Flying Jobbers to go after her since he knew they were enough.
Don't flip the script Cin and don't leave part where she clearly states that Luffy didn't intend to hurt her.
She is not impressive enough to defeat a Commander.
King ordered Flying Jobbers to go after her since he knew they were enough.
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Since the beginning I never thought that he would be worthy of being Zoros opponent. I think he’s a boring character with a boring fruit . His design is nice though.
I still hope that king is somehow a girl, I want a strong female YC1. Sorry for being off topic gonna cry in the corner
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I still hope that king is somehow a girl, I want a strong female YC1. Sorry for being off topic
gonna cry in the corner
Since the beginning I never thought that he would be worthy of being Zoros opponent. I think he’s a boring character with a boring fruit . His design is nice though.
I still hope that king is somehow a girl, I want a strong female YC1. Sorry for being off topic gonna cry in the corner
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I still hope that king is somehow a girl, I want a strong female YC1. Sorry for being off topic
gonna cry in the corner
It's more like a 19:1 in favour of Kaido being defeated last.
There is no precedent for and absolutely nothing that suggests Kaido would fall before King. Suggesting that the chances of it happening are 50:50 is ludicrous.
How does the recent Chapter support Sanji vs Queen? It instead set up Chopper against Queen.
IMO Sanji vs Queen is looking ever more unlikely:
IMO Zoro is already YC 1+ (peak high tier/low top tier) and leaves Wano a mid top tier.
Sanji's final opponent is unknown, and nothing suggests that they will of necessity push Sanji to high/extreme difficulty.
- Every other arc has seen the arc antagonist fall last
- Oda saved Kaido's hybrid form for last
- This suggests that Kaido will be defeated last
There is no precedent for and absolutely nothing that suggests Kaido would fall before King. Suggesting that the chances of it happening are 50:50 is ludicrous.
How does the recent Chapter support Sanji vs Queen? It instead set up Chopper against Queen.
IMO Sanji vs Queen is looking ever more unlikely:
- Queen's conflict and grudge seem to be much stronger against Chopper and Drake
- Chopper
- Queen tried to kill Chopper after Zoro gave him the antidote
- Chopper has neutralised his viruses twice in a row
- His subordinates betrayed him to protect Chopper
- Drake
- He has already tried to kill Drake
- Chopper
- Queen mentioned eliminating Sanji in the same breath as eliminating Zoro. He didn't really give eliminating Sanji any special consideration.
- Sanji and Queen haven't had any confrontation or any real build-up for a fight later down the line
- In fact, Zoro has had more of a confrontation with Queen
IMO Zoro is already YC 1+ (peak high tier/low top tier) and leaves Wano a mid top tier.
Sanji's final opponent is unknown, and nothing suggests that they will of necessity push Sanji to high/extreme difficulty.