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Who is Zoro's main opponent in Wanokuni?

  • Kaido

  • King

  • Orochi

  • Mama

  • Queen

  • Jack

  • Someone else (reply in thread)


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I guess that the hybrid sacrifices ranged and maybe attack potency for faster and more compacted attacks. Also, do you know what do you meed exactly for a 'bounty increase?' Lok
what do you mean ?
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oh if youre on about the ones we have its just the more posts you have the higher it goes
 
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I can understand your reasoning and would really not mind if Kaido is indeed his Main fight butvI just don't See it. When Oda draws a swordsman with similar rank, strength, character traits and Crew dynamic it is almost guarantueed to be his arc fight.. Otherwise you have to ask yourself about the bold: what for?
 
I can understand your reasoning and would really not mind if Kaido is indeed his Main fight butvI just don't See it. When Oda draws a swordsman with similar rank, strength, character traits and Crew dynamic it is almost guarantueed to be his arc fight.. Otherwise you have to ask yourself about the bold: what for?
Almost every important crew has a swordsman or one that is proficient with a sword tho. But the same question would apply for you. The raid started several chapters ago and Zoro didn't care about King, he pretty much ignored him so why would he go after King if his main focus is on Kaido? In this arc Zoro broke his role, he used to stay behind Luffy and clear his path, now he is obsessed on fighting the main villain with a purpose. Back in Skypia Zoro said that he doesn't like to fight seeking something but now he is just focused on revenge. Several things that used to happen back in other arcs broke apart in this one so it isn't very crazy if some weird things happen 2.
 

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If Luffy doesn't get a 1vs 1 this arc,then Kaido is going to down to a team of many people not just luffy and Zoro(where Luffy will do the most as always).
Luffy and Zoro are the only Supernova with the ability to truly damage Kaido. This was emphasised in Chapter 1000 and 1003.

If Kaido goes down, why not to those two?


Zoro wants to cut the toughest guy in the world,he's gonna accomplish that but Luffy having a 1vs 1 with a severely weakened Kaido and winning is not written off yet( infect Luffy going out of the fight so early even points to him fighting Kaido on his own while the other Sn are fatigued later).
Zoro has already cut Kaido in 1003, his goal is to kill him/cut him down/cut him to pieces.


I can understand your reasoning and would really not mind if Kaido is indeed his Main fight butvI just don't See it. When Oda draws a swordsman with similar rank, strength, character traits and Crew dynamic it is almost guarantueed to be his arc fight.. Otherwise you have to ask yourself about the bold: what for?
The narrative of Zoro having an entire character arc building up to his declaration of his desire to cut down Kaido trumps such meta arguments. If King was to be Zoro's opponent, then Zoro wouldn't ignore him for the near dozen chapters they spent together with King blocking his way.
 
Luffy and Zoro are the only Supernova with the ability to truly damage Kaido. This was emphasised in Chapter 1000 and 1003.

If Kaido goes down, why not to those two?



Zoro has already cut Kaido in 1003, his goal is to kill him/cut him down/cut him to pieces.



The narrative of Zoro having an entire character arc building up to his declaration of his desire to cut down Kaido trumps such meta arguments. If King was to be Zoro's opponent, then Zoro wouldn't ignore him for the near dozen chapters they spent together with King blocking his way.
Not that he was ignoring them but rather saying that they are a waste of time for him. Ppl might say that reopening a scar or doing other one is enough but no one would be very surprised tbh. "Look, he reopened the scar that Oden gave him 20 years ago, good for him ig?" And if he does other scar for me, it would be a copy paste from Oden ngl. "He achieved what Oden did 20 years ago while fighting alone... quite lame". Maybe I am pesimist or something but meh.
 
My head cannon on ZKK:Zoro re-opens Kaido's scar and is out of the battle due to exhaustion,Luffy vs Kaido ensues resulting in Kaido getting temporarily knocked out!Kaido recovers and either tries to flee or finish an exhausted Luffy,Zoro beheads Kaido(in dragon form) in this moment!
Sounds a bit cliche,but would go along thriller bark theme of the arc(zoro vs kuma) and would replicate ruyma's legend(important for zoro wss legend)!Also,it would be pretty dope!
 
My head cannon on ZKK:Zoro re-opens Kaido's scar and is out of the battle due to exhaustion,Luffy vs Kaido ensues resulting in Kaido getting temporarily knocked out!Kaido recovers and either tries to flee or finish an exhausted Luffy,Zoro beheads Kaido(in dragon form) in this moment!
Sounds a bit cliche,but would go along thriller bark theme of the arc(zoro vs kuma) and would replicate ruyma's legend(important for zoro wss legend)!Also,it would be pretty dope!
Agreed, also. Bm is still there so Luffy is still able to have his 1v1 with other Yonko if Oda wants. Plus, Zoro needs his epithet changed more than any straw hat. Pirate hunter was dope pre time skip but after the ts is mediocre. I rlly can't see Zoro being the WSS with the "pirate hunter"tag
 
Almost every important crew has a swordsman or one that is proficient with a sword tho. But the same question would apply for you. The raid started several chapters ago and Zoro didn't care about King, he pretty much ignored him so why would he go after King if his main focus is on Kaido? In this arc Zoro broke his role, he used to stay behind Luffy and clear his path, now he is obsessed on fighting the main villain with a purpose. Back in Skypia Zoro said that he doesn't like to fight seeking something but now he is just focused on revenge. Several things that used to happen back in other arcs broke apart in this one so it isn't very crazy if some weird things happen 2.
And did you ask yourself why every important Crew Has said swordsman that is exactly like Zoro..? You are dodging my question. you haven't actually answered it yet. "Just because" Is not a reason.
 
And did you ask yourself why every important Crew Has said swordsman that is exactly like Zoro..? You are dodging my question. you haven't actually answered it yet. "Just because" Is not a reason.
A swordsman is someone who is very strong in the crew and very focused that's why they are usually the second mate. Following that logic Zoro should fight Shanks because he is a swordsman too. And still, even tho you say that he should fight king because they are both swordsman you should read the manga and realize that as of right now, Zoro doesn't give a fuck about King and I highly doubt that he will care. King was protecting the rooftop standing between Luffy and Kaido yet Zoro didn't care and he just wanted to go for Kaido. In past arcs Zoro would've challenged that guy that stood between his captain and his goal but now it was different. Zoro doesn't have any business with King and that's all.
 
Luffy and Zoro are the only Supernova with the ability to truly damage Kaido. This was emphasised in Chapter 1000 and 1003.

If Kaido goes down, why not to those two?
Because it is underwhelming for the supposed World Strongest creature to fall to only those 2?
"Oden" is also there,Yamato too,there is also Oden's words in his letter to Toki,"Young powerful pirates will appear in the new world in 20 years,they are the those who can strike Down Kaido".

Chapter 1000 basically confirmed those "young powerful pirates" are the Rooftop 5 Sn.
Kid and Killer may not have the abilities to deeply hurt Kaido at the moment,but they are eventually going to find them and grow stronger as the battle continues.

If it was only Zoro and Luffy who can strike down Kaido, Killer,Kid and Law wouldn't be shown during that narration in chapter 1000 so i don't get why you are pushing this narrative for the climax just because the others don't have the correct means(to hurt Kaido) atm.




Zoro has already cut Kaido in 1003, his goal is to kill him/cut him down/cut him to pieces.
This is what I meant,did you read my entire post lmao? I already said Zoro can kill him at the end but he is not defeating him with Luffy alone imo.
On the other hand,Luffy going out of the fight so early tells me he is going to have Solo moments with Kaido later unlike Zoro and the others.

We'll see what happens,if I'm wrong,I will gladly admit it.
 
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Luffy and Zoro are the only Supernova with the ability to truly damage Kaido. This was emphasised in Chapter 1000 and 1003.

If Kaido goes down, why not to those two?



Zoro has already cut Kaido in 1003, his goal is to kill him/cut him down/cut him to pieces.



The narrative of Zoro having an entire character arc building up to his declaration of his desire to cut down Kaido trumps such meta arguments. If King was to be Zoro's opponent, then Zoro wouldn't ignore him for the near dozen chapters they spent together with King blocking his way.
You seriously think
Zoro will get more spotlight than law and Kidd
Coz muh he cut him with enma

His role is the same as Killer...fo whatever they can
Then Won't be relevant in the final round
He won't kill Kaido just like Sanji didnt KO Linljn
Stop repeating that "he said he came to kill Kaido" Yeah Same way Sanji declared to KO Linlin.

There's no ZKK
Kaido will even get up more serious after the scar reopens then Beat them.
Just like Linlin regained her sanity, health and power to wreck the alliance later.
 
You seriously think
Zoro will get more spotlight than law and Kidd
Coz muh he cut him with enma

His role is the same as Killer...fo whatever they can
Then Won't be relevant in the final round
He won't kill Kaido just like Sanji didnt KO Linljn
Stop repeating that "he said he came to kill Kaido" Yeah Same way Sanji declared to KO Linlin.

There's no ZKK
Kaido will even get up more serious after the scar reopens then Beat them.
Just like Linlin regained her sanity, health and power to wreck the alliance later.
Stop wanking them Ls lol. You killed yourself by saying that Sanji didn't ko Linlin when he clearly did. Your level of delusion is over 9000.
 

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Because it is underwhelming for the supposed World Strongest creature to fall to only those 2?
there is also Oden's words in his letter to Toki,"Young powerful pirates will appear in the new world in 20 years,they are the those who can strike Down Kaido".

Chapter 1000 basically confirmed those "young powerful pirates" are the Rooftop 5 Sn.
Kid and Killer may not have the abilities to deeply hurt Kaido at the moment,but they are eventually going to find them and grow stronger as the battle continues.

If it was only Zoro and Luffy who can strike down Kaido, Killer,Kid and Law wouldn't be shown during that narration in chapter 1000 so i don't get why you are pushing this narrative for the climax just because the others don't have the correct means(to hurt Kaido) atm.
I expect Mama to also fall this arc given CP 0's comments.

"Oden" is also there,
"Oden" isn't fighting Kaido. He has no place in a narrative about the new generation surpassing the old.

This is what I meant,did you read my entire post lmao?
Yes.

I already said Zoro can kill him at the end but he is not defeating him with Luffy alone imo.
On the other hand,Luffy going out of the fight so early tells me he is going to have Solo moments with Kaido later unlike Zoro and the others.
Zoro is going to replicate Ryuma's legend and leave Wano recognised as the new God of the Blade. Slaying an already defeated Kaido doesn't cut it.

If Wanokuni is to be the land where Zoro forges his own legend as the Second Ryuma, then his culminating accomplishments would not be merely replicating what Oden did (reopening the old scar/giving Kaido a new scar), or killing an already defeated Kaido. Zoro shall do what Oden could not do. He shall slay the Dragon Tyrant terrorising the country and depart Wano being hailed as the Second Ryuma — the new "God of the Blade".

I think that either Zoro lands the killing blow alone, or he lands it in a tag team with Luffy. Kidd, Law and Killer frankly do not compare at all to Zoro's narrative importance in Wano.
 
I expect Mama to also fall this arc given CP 0's comments.


"Oden" isn't fighting Kaido. He has no place in a narrative about the new generation surpassing the old.


Yes.


Zoro is going to replicate Ryuma's legend and leave Wano recognised as the new God of the Blade. Slaying an already defeated Kaido doesn't cut it.

If Wanokuni is to be the land where Zoro forges his own legend as the Second Ryuma, then his culminating accomplishments would not be merely replicating what Oden did (reopening the old scar/giving Kaido a new scar), or killing an already defeated Kaido. Zoro shall do what Oden could not do. He shall slay the Dragon Tyrant terrorising the country and depart Wano being hailed as the Second Ryuma — the new "God of the Blade".

I think that either Zoro lands the killing blow alone, or he lands it in a tag team with Luffy. Kidd, Law and Killer frankly do not compare at all to Zoro's narrative importance in Wano.
Call me crazy but I think that Luffy will 1v1 Bm and Zoro might 1v1 Kaido. Of course those are weakened Yonkos. And when I mean weak I mean very very weak. We know how much luffy desires to pummel suck Kaido but it would be pretty dope if Luffy ends up trusting Kaido to Zoro so Luffy is able to go after BM. Either that or Zoro kills a Kaido that gives his best shot to destroy the capital. And yes, here I am wanking both Luffy and Zoro. :specialmeh:
 
Slaying an already defeated Kaido doesn't cut it.

If Wanokuni is to be the land where Zoro forges his own legend as the Second Ryuma, then his culminating accomplishments would not be merely replicating what Oden did (reopening the old scar/giving Kaido a new scar), or killing an already defeated Kaido. Zoro shall do what Oden could not do. He shall slay the Dragon Tyrant terrorising the country and depart Wano being hailed as the Second Ryuma — the new "God of the Blade".

I think that either Zoro lands the killing blow alone, or he lands it in a tag team with Luffy. Kidd, Law and Killer frankly do not compare at all to Zoro's narrative importance in Wano.
Ok lol,i never get why but everytime i discuss Zoro with you,i always feel from your responses that you are very emotionally concerned and it makes your responses look like you are trying to convince me on something. It may be me imagining things but the wording makes me feel that way and it is not something i like,truth be told lol.

I've given my opinion so you know what i think,i will leave it at that and we will see what happens when the time comes.
 
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