Anime & Manga The Great Bet: LDK vs ZKK
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Eh, I don't believe ZKK β I do believe Zoro defeats Kaido β but it's not the same thing. I was mostly so persistent about it, because I know some ZKK advocates don't actually believe that Zoro defeats Kaido, and there are those like me that don't believe Zoro Kills Kaido.
Describing ZKK as "Zoro defeats Kaido and kills him" is unacceptable. It's also not a belief I'm aware of anyone endorsing.
It's more the point that these are separate beliefs:
The 2nd claim is not a claim of the 1st, and the 1st is not a claim of the 2nd. ZKK is the 2nd, and most advocates of ZKK believe the 2nd. If you're going to make a ZKK bet, let it actually be about ZKK.
@Chrono if you want to make a bet on ZDK, tag me, I'm game.
Describing ZKK as "Zoro defeats Kaido and kills him" is unacceptable. It's also not a belief I'm aware of anyone endorsing.
It's more the point that these are separate beliefs:
- Zoro defeats Kaido
- Zoro kills Kaido
The 2nd claim is not a claim of the 1st, and the 1st is not a claim of the 2nd. ZKK is the 2nd, and most advocates of ZKK believe the 2nd. If you're going to make a ZKK bet, let it actually be about ZKK.
@Chrono if you want to make a bet on ZDK, tag me, I'm game.
its nothing about confidence its about his (and seemingly yours) inability to grasp what zoro kills kaido means
zoro kills kaido doesnt mean zoro defeats kaido but doesnt kill him like he tried to use
on the flip side
luffy beating kaido and zoro killing him does mean zoro kills kaido
as thats the whole meaning of the words zoro kills kaido
theres no need for semantics either he kills him or he doesnt
zoro kills kaido doesnt mean zoro defeats kaido but doesnt kill him like he tried to use
on the flip side
luffy beating kaido and zoro killing him does mean zoro kills kaido
as thats the whole meaning of the words zoro kills kaido
theres no need for semantics either he kills him or he doesnt
They scream Zoro replicating Ryuma's feat. They scream Zoro killing Kaido over the Flower Captital. They bring up the PH Dragon kill.
But when it comes to the actual bet, they cower down to it lmao. I gave them the option of ZKK also meaning Zoro defeating Kaido but not killing him. But nah they just want it to be totally about Zoro killing him. Ok I guess....lol.
But when it comes to the actual bet, they cower down to it lmao. I gave them the option of ZKK also meaning Zoro defeating Kaido but not killing him. But nah they just want it to be totally about Zoro killing him. Ok I guess....lol.
The Zoro fandom is not a monolithic thing.
All 3 of the above are separate beliefs, and lumping all of them into one bundle as a single belief is a great mistake; you'll end up with something that maybe only a few people endorse.
If you're making a bet on ZKK, let the bet be about ZKK. If you want to make a ZDK bet, then make it separately.
- Most Zoro fans don't believe that Zoro kills Kaido
- Most Zoro fans don't believe that Zoro is the strongest Supernova
- Most Zoro fans don't believe that Zoro defeats Kaido
All 3 of the above are separate beliefs, and lumping all of them into one bundle as a single belief is a great mistake; you'll end up with something that maybe only a few people endorse.
If you're making a bet on ZKK, let the bet be about ZKK. If you want to make a ZDK bet, then make it separately.
