Powers & Abilities Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger | full analysis

I'd like to see what else Kaido will bust out before concluding he's Roger level or above but Oden being stronger than Rayleigh isn't impossible and I'm on the fence regarding who's superior between the two. Nice post.
Well, a lot of people didn't get this, but the name of the thread is mostly a clickbait. The real point is that Oden and Kaido were/are on the same level as Whitbeard and Roger (based on titles, feats + hype), the possibility of Kaido and Oden being above Whitbeard and Roger is something that included there as a *possibility* only; it's not something that I would bet my rent money on.
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Present Kaido is at Roger and Whitebeard's level, but Oden is honestly closer to Marco. If Oden lived he would be yonko level.
Oh. Yeah, tell me about Oden being YC level...

Like honestly... Kaido is literally putting Oden on the same pedestal as Rocks, Roger, Whitbeard and Shanks–non of them are YC level. If Oden was YC level, then why is Kaido wondering how strong Luffy will become in the future while comparing him to the guys that are/were clearly stronger than Luffy, a lot stronger!?

If Oden was on Marco's level, then why is Whitbeard saying that Ace can't do anything to Kaido since even Oden couldn't?

If Oden is on Marco's level, then why is he saying that if he can't defeat Kaido then nobody on their time will?


I am the biggest Oden hater of all time, I have zero interest to wank him, I'd rather have Oden being on Marco's level than being compared to the Emperors themselves. Those who know me can confirm that I believe that the Emperors are the strongest characters in one piece, stronger than Admirals or Mihawk. But nonetheless, I'm still willing to look to the truth in the eyes: Oden is not YC level, not even close, Oden is full on Emperor level.
 
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And Oden is on their level lol.
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Well, they are all more or less on one level, depending on what you mean with "one level". We saw Roger swatting Oden away, but we could interpret it one way or another (one attack being not indicative, Oden growing stronger before his final battle, ...). But Roger and Whitebeard are at the top.

Roger/Whitebeard > Hybrid Kaido > Base Kaido ~ Oden. Difficulty is another topic.
 
Well, they are all more or less on one level, depending on what you mean with "one level". We saw Roger swatting Oden away, but we could interpret it one way or another (one attack being not indicative, Oden growing stronger before his final battle, ...). But Roger and Whitebeard are at the top.

Roger/Whitebeard > Hybrid Kaido > Base Kaido ~ Oden. Difficulty is another topic.
And Luffy lost his consciousness to Apoo's attack, and what? Does that mean that Luffy is weaker than Apoo!? As matter of fact, Oden tanked Roger's attack way better than Luffy did with Apoo's attack. I don't get this "Oden was damaged by Roger hence Oden is weaker than Roger", then what about Luffy or Zoro getting damaged by characters that are clearly weaker than them just because Oda wants so, or maybe because the plot requires so.
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What a shit thread
Whatever dude, go mind your own business.
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I don’t even know why people are fighting it. Oda is Japanese. You would expect that the place in the story that is based on Japan has one of the strongest fighters ever.
Yeah, exactly... I'd recommend everyone to read SBS and find out how much Oda loves samurais.
 
And Luffy lost his consciousness to Apoo's attack, and what? Does that mean that Luffy is weaker than Apoo!? As matter of fact, Oden tanked Roger's attack way better than Luffy did with Apoo's attack. I don't get this "Oden was damaged by Roger hence Oden is weaker than Roger", then what about Luffy or Zoro getting damaged by characters that are clearly weaker than them just because Oda wants so, or maybe because the plot requires so.
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Whatever dude, go mind your own business.
Yeah, sure, I agree. But Whitebeard always received special hype even among the greatest, with Roger being his equal.

- Whitebeard ruled the era
- called king of the seas (Garp)
- said to rule in front of the throne (Doflamingo)
- said to be a greater obstacle than Shanks and Kaido (Big Mom)
- called strongest man and strongest pirate (Oda)

That's portrayal even Kaido cannot keep up with.
 

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Yall chat so much shit.


The oden that was called MANY TIMES STRONGER
Wasn't the oden that fought kaido
It was the oden that landed back on wano

That oden who was MANY TIMES STRONGER
1 year prior was swatted away by Roger and in awe of rogerbeard.

That oden for the next 5 years all he did was dance.

Oden isn't licking Roger's boots let alone being on his level.
 
Whitebeard ruled the era
I mean yeah, he had extremely powerful armada. He had extremely strong crew and a DF that can literally destroy the entire world.
called king of the seas
What else you would call a guy who can literally create tsunamis lol. Whitbeard was undefeatable in the seas. But that has nothing to do with fighting power...
said to rule in front of the throne
Because he knew lough-tale's location and he also knew the entire history of the world.
said to be a greater obstacle than Shanks and Kaido (Big Mom)
I agree, of course Whitbeard is a greater obstacle than irresponsible Big Mom and Kaido lol. Luffy entered Meme's territory, defeated her two sons, destroyed everything she valued in the world, and successfully escaped. Try to do that with Whitbeard...
And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Shanks is weaker than Whitbeard.
called strongest man and strongest pirate (Oda
Lol. This is classic Oda trolling. After that he said that Whitbeard was the strongest pirate because of the way he lived. This is way I say that all those strength titles mean nothing.
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Yall chat so much shit.


The oden that was called MANY TIMES STRONGER
Wasn't the oden that fought kaido
It was the oden that landed back on wano

That oden who was MANY TIMES STRONGER
1 year prior was swatted away by Roger and in awe of rogerbeard.

That oden for the next 5 years all he did was dance.

Oden isn't licking Roger's boots let alone being on his level.
Lol. Chil out Zoro fan.
 
Roger and Whitebeard are on another level. Current Kaido maybe on their level‚ I need to see how his hybrid from does first. Kaido is def. Stronger than old Whitebeard though.

As for Oden‚ you saw how Roger fared against him. You can't compare the Kaido‚ that Oden defeated 20 years ago to current Kaido.
 
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