Current Events “6 Kilometers” Debunked - Proof of How Small Onigashima Really Is

[Steven]

Also, you can see part of said mountains range in this panel:

A lot of these mountains are within 600 - 800m in height.

And as I said, Dragon Kaido is large as well, he can wrap himself around a mountain as we have seen before. Yet, he looks incredibly small in front of the rooftop - not the entire skull! - which is also massively smaller than the entire island.

The skull alone is almost 5 KM

Hill = 466.96 Meters = 9 px
466.96 Meters/9 px = 51.88 Meters per px
Onigashima Skull Height = 92 px = 4772.96 Meters
Onigashima Eye Length = 16.64 px = 863.28 Meters

 

[Sentinel]

The skull alone is almost 5 KM

Hill = 466.96 Meters = 9 px
466.96 Meters/9 px = 51.88 Meters per px
Onigashima Skull Height = 92 px = 4772.96 Meters
Onigashima Eye Length = 16.64 px = 863.28 Meters

This is also consistent with another panel of the same scaling in which Onigashima's Eye length was ~800m.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

he is 2km lenght

No, that's ridiculously long. Kaido should be around 200+ meters in length and no way the skull is 5-6 KM either. It's probably b/w 1 to 2 KM and even that is a stretch IMO.

Edit: Kaido length adjusted after reverifying the panels

 

[MonsterKaido]

Onigashma is bigger than marineford by 5 times at least..........

 

[Sentinel]

No, that's ridiculously long. Kaido should be around 100 to 150 meters in length and no way the skull is 5-6 KM either. It's probably b/w 1 to 2 KM and even that is a stretch IMO.

What do you think about this scaling?

The skull alone is almost 5 KM

Hill = 466.96 Meters = 9 px
466.96 Meters/9 px = 51.88 Meters per px
Onigashima Skull Height = 92 px = 4772.96 Meters
Onigashima Eye Length = 16.64 px = 863.28 Meters

I have another one which is consistent to Steven's one btw:

Spoiler

28px = 42.1m (Height of Sunny's Mast)
103px = 155m (branch)
21px (background) = 155m (branch)
118px = 871m (Skull Eye Width)

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

Kaido is 2-5km in length thats a nice approxmation

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

No, that's ridiculously long. Kaido should be around 100 to 150 meters in length and no way the skull is 5-6 KM either. It's probably b/w 1 to 2 KM and even that is a stretch IMO.

I doubt Kuri is only 100-150meter large, it was clearly a huge city and Kaido in dragon form without strecht totally out was similar lenght large:

Would clearly said 2km at least.

 

[Finalbeta]

Kaido is 2-5km in length thats a nice approxmation

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

Base Kaido funnily only stands at around over 6 meters tall.

 

[Cinera]

So, we finally get to see how tiny Onigashima is this chapter:

Big Mom is what? 20 feet tall? And yet, she is clearly visible when being pushed off of Onigashima. Meaning the distance from the horn to the skull looks to be what? 200 feet at maximum?

And you can tell from the way the “smoke trail” behind her heads horizontally off of the Skull, that we aren’t witnessing a perspective issue, Onigashima is literally just that small. Or Oda is an atrocious artist but I doubt he’s that awful lol.

Either way, this shit isn’t even close to a kilometer like some were saying so ridiculously lol.

Looks like my original Onigashima scaling was lightning accurate, but actually I may have even downplayed Marineford a bit:

@ShishioIsBack @Cinera @Bogard @LuthonTheDragDown @Light D Lamperouge @Owl Ki @MarineHQ62 @silverfire @playa4321 @Sentinel

Nah, Oda is just inaccurate at times when drawing things. That scene of Mama being yeeted simply wasn't to scale.

I'm tired of this argument TBH. You want to downplay the size of Onigashima for your Admiral agenda, and I get that. I don't particularly care to repeatedly debate it though. Especially when you have such a transparent agenda that you're unwilling to relinquish.

 

[comrade]

To be fair it make sense, since Kaido would not want to destroy his own castle, Kaido as Dragon is easily 2-5km large:

Almost large in lenght as the city himself while in Onigashima:

And Kaido is not bigger then the rooftop himself at let assume he is 2km lenght, the rooftop hiimself(skull) should be in lenght over 5-6km. I think the 16km calc was right, could be even greater.^^

As @Sentinel shows up Zou, Onigashima is even larger.

Well, I think measuring Kaido with 2-3km is quite too much. But 400-500 meters makes sense.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Especially when you have such a transparent agenda that you're unwilling to relinquish.

This is a bit ironic coming from you isn’t it? I’m not trying to insult you but we both have our agendas lol.

Whatever the case may be, the “6 Kilometer” argument is dead bro.

 

[Cinera]

Well, I think measuring Kaido with 2-3km is quite too much. But 400-500 meters makes sense.

Nope, look at this panel:

500 metres is simply too small. The red line alone is dozens of city blocks, and it's already at least several hundred metres long.

Dragon Kaido is himself much longer than the red line. Dragon Kaido is in the low kilometres in length.

@Gol D. Roger, @Sentinel, @playa4321.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Nope, look at this panel:

500 metres is simply too small. The red line alone is dozens of city blocks, and it's already at least several hundred metres long.

Dragon Kaido is himself, much longer than the red line. Dragon Kaido is in the low kilometres in length.

@Gol D. Roger, @Sentinel, @playa4321.

The thing is Kaido whole body wasn´t even draw in full lenght since the body co over the manga panel, with stretch, he could easily overcome 1-2km....

 

[Sentinel]

@Cinera

We'll soon see Onigashima's size in comparison to whole Wano. And I'm also interested at Mount Fuji, it looks like the height of this mountain easily surpasses the stratosphere if it massively dwarfs Onigashima's height that much. I'd say it's likely that the mountain is within the termosphere and I don't really mind if people call that wank lol - I'm just looking forward for Wano's full scale.

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Nope, look at this panel:

500 metres is simply too small. The red line alone is dozens of city blocks, and it's already at least several hundred metres long.

Dragon Kaido is himself, much longer than the red line. Dragon Kaido is in the low kilometres in length.

@Gol D. Roger, @Sentinel, @playa4321.

I thought Dragon Kaido might be 300 - 500m in length but your explanation is insane (it's not an insult btw). I never realised that Dragon Kaido's length dwarfs multiple city blocks.

 

[Cinera]

I’m not trying to insult you but we both have our agendas lol.

Sure, I mean I have my agenda of Zoro wank, but I don't really care about Onigashima's size though. I mean it doesn't matter how large Onigashima is for my Zoro wank. Hiryuu Kaen is impressive because it terrified two top tiers, not because it travelled several kilometres.

Likewise, blocking Hakai is impressive because it was a combination finisher attack of two Yonkou and not because of the insane DC. Whether the shockwave of Hakai has a radius of 10 kilometres or just 2 kilometres, Zoro still blocked a high top tier attack. Absolute DC feats are only relevant in crossverse battles, and I don't really debate for One Piece characters in crossverse battles.

This kind of debate over whether Onigashima feats are truly island level is literally completely irrelevant to me. I don't care about the raw DC involved, I care that Zoro blocked a high top tier attack. As far as my agenda is concerned, Onigashima's actual size is irrelevant.

It's honestly something that I don't want to spend time debating because it is so pointless.


I mean, I didn't go out of my way to find the most wanked up size of Onigashima I could. I simply accepted the pixel scalings I saw which seemed well-founded. If a credible argument could be presented that Onigashima wasn't several kilometres across, I would accept it.

However, it's literally an island surrounded by a mountain range:

No matter the extent you reach to downplay Onigashima's size, Oda has told us that Onigashima is surrounded by a mountain range. We see those mountains in the above scan, and they are far smaller than a single horn, let alone the entire skull.

Like it's just not plausible to try and push the agenda that you're pushing. You would have to insist that the mountain range that surrounds Onigashima is not a mountain range despite us being told that it is and that it is portrayed as one.

I'm not a fan of denying things that are unambiguously shown in the manga (like Onigashima being surrounded by a mountain range). Trying to deny what is virtually Word of God because it contradicts your agenda is a bit too much don't you think?

This is all a bit too silly for me.


Speaking frankly, I find your arguments to downplay Onigashima's size absurd. If it was literally anyone else, I wouldn't even dignify this thread with a reply.

 

[Crooc]

I am always amazed at how folks have the passion or should I say the ridicules patience to scale details I'm pretty sure even Oda doesn't care for.

 

[Sentinel]

As even the Scabbards argued that Kaido wants to go to the roof top since inside, it would be too small to contain his Dragon form.

As @Cinera and @playa4321 pointed out, Dragon Kaido is actually quite large in length; I was surprised as well when I saw again how his dragon form dwarfs dozens of city blocks.

Btw, a 500m radius within city blocks:

I seriously do not believe that the skull is this small tbh.

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I am always amazed at how folks have the passion or should I say the ridicules patience to scale details I'm pretty sure even Oda doesn't care for.

Does Oda care for powerlevels, or x vs y? I don't think so. Yet, the battledome is quite popular with hypothetical match-ups.
Just let the people have fun trying to calculate pictures from fictional stories, it shouldn't care you much and whether the authors care or not doesn't really matter unless there is a logical statement (from the author) which contradicts said scaling.

 

[Finalbeta]

I am always amazed at how folks have the passion or should I say the ridicules patience to scale details I'm pretty sure even Oda doesn't care for.

Well Oda showed different inconsistencies sizes wise throughout the manga, you are in all likelihood on the right axis.

 

[comrade]

Nope, look at this panel:

500 metres is simply too small. The red line alone is dozens of city blocks, and it's already at least several hundred metres long.

Dragon Kaido is himself, much longer than the red line. Dragon Kaido is in the low kilometres in length.

@Gol D. Roger, @Sentinel, @playa4321.

Those buildings are small cottages with a width under 10 meters:

Spoiler

That red line has probably a length of around 200-300 meters. Comparing it to Kaido's body, he might have a length of 500-600m. But not several kms.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

As @Cinera and @playa4321 pointed out, Dragon Kaido is actually quite large in length; I was surprised as well when I saw again how his dragon form dwarfs dozens of city blocks.

Btw, a 500m radius within city blocks:

I seriously do not believe that the skull is this small tbh.

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Does Oda care for powerlevels, or x vs y? I don't think so. Yet, the battledome is quite popular with hypothetical match-ups.
Just let the people have fun trying to calculate pictures from fictional stories, it shouldn't care you much and whether the authors care or not doesn't really matter unless there is a logical statement (from the author) which contradicts said scaling.

You see how much is 500m but it still look small for the lenght with Kaido cover, he not just cover one street, he over multiple city block range. You can see everything under 1km wouldn´t make sense, he lterally cover a whole mountain like a snake cover a stone.