Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1010 Spoilers Discussion

[Utsuro]

So, is Ashura regular CoC or advanced CoC?

Because Kaido is using advanced CoC with Ragnarok and he's not doing anything crazy-looking. He's just increasing the impact/strength of his attack.

Also, if advanced CoC can create more limbs (illusory ones, but they still do damage), what can someone like Shanks do? If Shanks ends up using CoC only for amplification, it'll be anticlimactic. On the other hand, I'm not sure I want Oda to go crazy with f***ing Susanoos.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

To think that Zoro entered the timeskip with advanced CoA and CoC (probably advanced) already, while Luffy only unconsciously used CoC in Marineford and never heard of CoO and CoA yet.

Luffy and Zoro comparison at the beginning of timeskip:
CoO: both didn't know
CoA: Luffy never heard of it, Zoro had advanced already
CoC: Luffy barely has it, Zoro could control Asura far better than MF Luffy controlled his CoC

Zoro knew CoO. He sensed his sword under the stone.

 

[Paperchampion23]

To be fair it is not just regular CoC, it is the adv CoC form.
With Ashura Zoro unlock the true power of CoC based on the chapter how Kaido make a statement about it.

Gotta be frank, why are we saying this? Kaido only references Haoshoku, he says nothing about advanced usage.

I think we should avoid using fan made concepts before it's at all stated in the story. Zoro having CoC is already a big deal, both him and Luffy applying it to their attacks even moreso. Adv CoC isn't a thing (yet)

 

[Red Admiral]

i need to sez the effect and what's done by it another headcanons of swordmanship /=/ CoC died with this

maybe ... but I'm not sure if it should be count as a "swordsmanship" power ...

if Zoro crafted Ashura base of CoC

Luffy will do it base of a wisdom King

and Shanks will craft the strongest deity in the world ... :cheers:



Zoro fans should leave Mihawk ...
Zoro don't need him now

 

[Patapujuro]

Man is confusing, did Law or Zoro get attacked by thunder bague.
Zoro make a new wound with Ashura and hurt him based on the spoiler,adv CoC.
But the thunder bague hit thing is confusing asf.

It's the spoiler providers are making some damage control to underhype "Kiki Kyūtōryū Ashura" being an Advanced CoC technique

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Remember what Oda said. Zoro is a CoA specialist. I made a thread saying Zoro/Sanji will unlock it late because they’re not CoC specialists.

If anyone has “advanced” CoC it’ll be Luffy but we have seen no indication of it yet. Zoro went 100% all out, that’s why Kaido felt his will/CoC. He never felt it before.

He didn't sense Luffy until he knocked out those fodders. That doesn't mean Zoro couldn't do it before. It also puts context on the Fishman island scene with Zoro

 

[Buusatan94]

Looks like only someone with soul power can kill the Special Homies, I am curious to see what Prometheus wants to say to Big Mom.

 

[Kromage911]

imbuing CoC on attacks

Imbuing CoC on attacks should be at least related to Adv CoC as it feels like another step to it. But there definitely should be something even more to it like Luffy's internal destruction is even a step ahead Adv CoA. I think that will be limited to characters like Shanks to hype them up.

 

[SomnusUltima]

guys remember in 997 "omg Zoro did this? is this kings haki?"

 

[mckengrie]

Probably Zoro use old Ashura.

 

[Paperchampion23]

So, is Ashura regular CoC or advanced CoC?

Because Kaido is using advanced CoC with Ragnarok and he's not doing anything crazy-looking. He's just increasing the impact/strength of his attack.

Also, if advanced CoC can create more limbs (illusory ones, but they still do damage), what can someone like Shanks do? If Shanks ends up using CoC only for amplification, it'll be anticlimactic. On the other hand, I'm not sure I want Oda to go crazy with f***ing Susanoos.

Advanced CoC doesn't exist. People are making up terms in this thread lol

 

[WesMidnight]

Where is it stated cutting Kaido = Adv CoA ?

Zoro has barrier haki when using Enma, that is required to cut Kaido and mentioned multiple times throughout this arc.
Luffy seeing barrier haki vs alpacaman and knowing he needed it to damage Kaido, Kaido mentioning "Odens haki" from the scabbards allowing it to damage him, people without ryuo like Kidd and Killer commenting on Luffy and Zoro's ability to bypass his scale defense.

Zoro does NOT have internal destruction, this is the level beyond, not a requirement to damage Kaido, as proven by Luffy's reaction to Hyogoro's barrier ryuo being enough and the fact that none of the scabbards or Oden- then man who died in chains- have internal destruction.

 

[Chrono]

Since they have Ryuo - which is basically Adv CoA - to cut Kaido's dragon scales. Are you on full denial mode again?

Which is basically Adv CoA ? Are you literally just making up your facts up now ? Rypu has been stated to be ordinary haki twice. Adv Coa has been stated to be internal destruction.

Nowehere has it been stated Cutting Dragon Scales = Adv CoA. This is acc pathetic.

 

[Sentinel]

Adv Coa has always been internal haki and we know Zoro doesn't have that.

No, both barrier haki and internal destruction haki are advanced applications of CoA; ryuo lv 2 obviously being more advanced than the regular one.

 

[LemonadeCandy]

Welp Oda finally got around to showing how skilled users make use of CoC for relevant battle purpose. Not really surprised that it simply seems like a "your attacks hit harder" technique but it sure is a bit disappointing...

We get to see Asura this chapter tho so that's hype.

 

[sanjikun]

Where are this Advanced CoC shouts coming from? It seems this chapter.only introduces the concept of imbuing CoC on attacks and nothing more, Luffy is even doing it by the end of the chapter or do you guys think he learned Advanced CoC in a chapter?

Zoro fans want to differentiate Zoro from other CoC peasants like Kid and Luffy, so they made up “advanced” CoC.

 

[sidestreetboy]

Time to remind Zoro fans their boy needed CoA, CoO and advanced CoC to keep up with DJ Sanji in EL

You are still fighting, commendable

 

[Red Admiral]

Advanced CoC doesn’t play a huge factor though lol. Shanks is still getting mid diffed by Mihawk, and any top tier can defeat Kaido whether or not they have CoC.

I understand ... taking a L in ass is not easy ...

 

[Crush]

what zoro fans downplayed coc? A few of the loud minority?

Most Zoro fans thought he'd get Coc just as myself. We knew how important Coc was in this story.

 

[Chrono]

You need Ryou to cut Kaido too 🤡. Sccabards cut him but it wasn't significant like Kaido says this chapter.

Show me where it states Ryou = Adv CoA