Character Discussion Sanji's Immense Will
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The ambition is the ambition no matter what others think. Does Luffy say he wants to be PK instead of his "real dream" because of how it sounds to other people? Does he care if someone laughs, thinks it to be impossible, or gets in his way because of it?
Sanji doesn't care if you laugh at him because of how he views and treats women. He does have a good will, but he's not ambitious. Living a life where he doesn't harm women is his standard, or ideal... but not an actual dream. It's an obstacle subverts the obstacle by having others fight for him and doesn't even object to other men fighting women as we saw with Monet.
Sanji's built different.
Luffy and Zoro willpower: not cracking Bellamy when their goals are at stake though it's tempting.
Luffy and Zoro ambition: either death or achievement, no other options ever.
Sanji willpower: not even tempted, will not achieve other goals at the cost of this one.
Sanji ambition: maybe see through a few things he likes.
That proves something about fans, not the characters.
I don't understand how they compare to Sanji...
Sanji doesn't care if you laugh at him because of how he views and treats women. He does have a good will, but he's not ambitious. Living a life where he doesn't harm women is his standard, or ideal... but not an actual dream. It's an obstacle subverts the obstacle by having others fight for him and doesn't even object to other men fighting women as we saw with Monet.
Sanji's built different.
Luffy and Zoro willpower: not cracking Bellamy when their goals are at stake though it's tempting.
Luffy and Zoro ambition: either death or achievement, no other options ever.
Sanji willpower: not even tempted, will not achieve other goals at the cost of this one.
Sanji ambition: maybe see through a few things he likes.
That proves something about fans, not the characters.
I don't understand how they compare to Sanji...
We are talking about Ambition and Kuma here....not women. I don't know when you changed the convo to that.
Like I said, Sanji wanted to seem threatening to Kuma. The next WSS is a threatening title. The next person to find the All Blue isnt. Thus Sanji couldn't say his ambition to Kuma, if he wanted Kuma to kill him instead of Luffy and Zoro.
Like I said, Sanji wanted to seem threatening to Kuma. The next WSS is a threatening title. The next person to find the All Blue isnt. Thus Sanji couldn't say his ambition to Kuma, if he wanted Kuma to kill him instead of Luffy and Zoro.
Ain’t no way this PUSSY has an immense Will.
Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
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Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
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His desire not to hurt women is a more occurrent and consistent goal than All Blue.
I asked the last time All Blue came up and you avoided the question. You did restate what I already responded to in regards to Kuma, though: Luffy or Zoro would never come up with another ambition because of how someone else perceives it. If they had to do that, then it would just mean they needed a different ambition in the first place. Even if they don't believe these guys will be PK or WSS, even if those goals sound meaningless to them, they know that Luffy and Zoro are completely serious. That's what makes them sound worth a damn.
Meanwhile you have All Blue and mother fucking Usopp asking "are you being serious?" LOL. All Blue didn't matter as long as he had Pudding lmao
I asked the last time All Blue came up and you avoided the question. You did restate what I already responded to in regards to Kuma, though: Luffy or Zoro would never come up with another ambition because of how someone else perceives it. If they had to do that, then it would just mean they needed a different ambition in the first place. Even if they don't believe these guys will be PK or WSS, even if those goals sound meaningless to them, they know that Luffy and Zoro are completely serious. That's what makes them sound worth a damn.
Meanwhile you have All Blue and mother fucking Usopp asking "are you being serious?" LOL. All Blue didn't matter as long as he had Pudding lmao
Ain’t no way this PUSSY has an immense Will.
Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
Oh and this
Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
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This is not about denying Sanji's will to pursue the All Blue dream in itself, but merely the shakiness of it, it's the details that make a big difference here since this is a contest about which characters bear the strongest will.
It's not just about goals and ideals within themselves, but the constance, the level of determination and application.
But that isnt his ambition. That's more of his morals and a testament of the will to uphold it.....
Last time All Blue came up was in a gag. The last time before that was long ago...This isnt only a Sanji problem. All the SHs suffer from not rehashing their Ambition well enough. In comparison to Luffy who says it every chapter.
Why are you acting as if this is a moment to display loyalty to ambition. Fucking Luffy's life is on the line. If Sanji can't convince to Kuma he's a threat.....then he'll either kill Zoro and Luffy. Sanji's ambition of the All Blue is legendary, however it isnt a threat to the WG like the WSS or PK would be. That's it. It's not about Sanji not respecting his own ambition, it's about his Ambition not scoring him the bigger threat title....since it isnt a position of strength. If Sanji wants Kuma's wrath he needs to show how threatening he can be. And again being the person who found the All Blue isnt threatening.
Don't try to turn this into a whole....Sanji is embrassed about his ambition. It's clearly not the case. Shown when he was a kid and was mocked by the Chefs....yet still pursued the All blue.
Last time All Blue came up was in a gag. The last time before that was long ago...This isnt only a Sanji problem. All the SHs suffer from not rehashing their Ambition well enough. In comparison to Luffy who says it every chapter.
Why are you acting as if this is a moment to display loyalty to ambition. Fucking Luffy's life is on the line. If Sanji can't convince to Kuma he's a threat.....then he'll either kill Zoro and Luffy. Sanji's ambition of the All Blue is legendary, however it isnt a threat to the WG like the WSS or PK would be. That's it. It's not about Sanji not respecting his own ambition, it's about his Ambition not scoring him the bigger threat title....since it isnt a position of strength. If Sanji wants Kuma's wrath he needs to show how threatening he can be. And again being the person who found the All Blue isnt threatening.
Don't try to turn this into a whole....Sanji is embrassed about his ambition. It's clearly not the case. Shown when he was a kid and was mocked by the Chefs....yet still pursued the All blue.
Sanji will is weak, his ambition is weak
Someone with true ambition like Luffy and Zoro would never cry saying they achieve their goals before achieving them, even if Luffy screams a lot about how he is going to be the pirate king he always says "i am GOING to be pirate king" and Zoro when gloating says "I am the man DESTINED to become WSS" they never belittle their own ambition and dream like this. This is what separates true conquerors from others...
Sanji had a strong will as a kid? please...he ran away from home in tears, he was weak to stand up to his brothers...
Someone with true ambition like Luffy and Zoro would never cry saying they achieve their goals before achieving them, even if Luffy screams a lot about how he is going to be the pirate king he always says "i am GOING to be pirate king" and Zoro when gloating says "I am the man DESTINED to become WSS" they never belittle their own ambition and dream like this. This is what separates true conquerors from others...
Sanji had a strong will as a kid? please...he ran away from home in tears, he was weak to stand up to his brothers...
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one guys crying because hes broken completely
the other is crying because he lost but his resolve has never been stronger
Candybois damage control thread 
trully a conqueror.
Disagree. You are making the same mistake that Uruge did. He also thought Zoro's captain must have tamed him (basically what Kaido does to his crew) with brute force or superior willpower. Zoro placing Luffy's dream over his life has nothing to do with Luffy having more willpower.
Nevertheless, Sanji owes us something extraordinary for his TB moment. He wont get CoC and wont fight King though
Nevertheless, Sanji owes us something extraordinary for his TB moment. He wont get CoC and wont fight King though
Vergo was just testing Sanji out in this staredown and Sanji looks like a pussy ass bitch, he doesnt usually look this turd faced and stressed out. This is his most turd faced I can remember so that tells you about Vergo's power
Vergo is yonko level though. Sanji knew he was dead here. He still kept going
Give him props. Strong willed
Vergo is yonko level though. Sanji knew he was dead here. He still kept going
Give him props. Strong willed
Immense will power my ass.....
The situation was not the same and you know it
Luffy went there to help Sanji, not the other way around, but Sanji as the loser he is betrayed his captain as he had no faith they could possibly oppose his family and the big meme.
Ont he other pannel Sanji was capured by fodder and couldnt escape because he was too weak to surpass his mother complex. Imagine Luffy giving up his dream and accepting defeat because he couldnt hit big mom because she is a woman.
No they did not, they where not even in the east blue. And even if that was the case, the rooftop 5 had to fight 2 yonkos because of him, and where was he to take responsability for causing that mess? captured by fodder and making himself a joke for the entire island to hear, all because he wanted to play he hero inside enemy territory like the stupid simp that he is....And he is weak enough to the point where he cant even take responsability for his own mess, cant even get out of there alone.
If an incompetent asshat like this ever get CoC then any incompetent idiot can get it, might as well give it to Orochi, at least he has more ambition than the shitty cook.
Luffy went there to help Sanji, not the other way around, but Sanji as the loser he is betrayed his captain as he had no faith they could possibly oppose his family and the big meme.
Ont he other pannel Sanji was capured by fodder and couldnt escape because he was too weak to surpass his mother complex. Imagine Luffy giving up his dream and accepting defeat because he couldnt hit big mom because she is a woman.
No they did not, they where not even in the east blue. And even if that was the case, the rooftop 5 had to fight 2 yonkos because of him, and where was he to take responsability for causing that mess? captured by fodder and making himself a joke for the entire island to hear, all because he wanted to play he hero inside enemy territory like the stupid simp that he is....And he is weak enough to the point where he cant even take responsability for his own mess, cant even get out of there alone.
If an incompetent asshat like this ever get CoC then any incompetent idiot can get it, might as well give it to Orochi, at least he has more ambition than the shitty cook.
yea, it shows how sanji fans want sanji to be just like zoro 
Ain’t no way this PUSSY has an immense Will.
Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
Oh and this
Canonically Usopp has the greatest Will just under Luffy and Zoro.
In the face of adversity Usopp does not run away and cry like a bitch. He steps up and handles his shit better than Sanji could ever.
Imagine weeping because a 16 year old finessed ya ass and fuck over your crew and yet still simping for her for the next couple days. How fucking lame do you gotta be.
Someone calls Luffy a hack.
Usopp: Bites them back with words and willpower
Sanji: Joins them on the Luffy mudslinging
But.. but.. but.. Conquerors Haki Sanji
This trashbin was willing to throw away his dreams before even arriving at the All Blue
He got a shittier willpower than most pirates on the Paradise of Grandline.
This dude has a joke of a dream eclipsed by 9/10s of the other strawhats and is just here for the ride.
I wonder how has he even helped Luffy? And when he could kick the bucket already.
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But hey, filth are always filth.
You know what's funny? It's like when people are showing some kind of honesty, good people are always get flamed by society, and then bad people are usually the one that get away with their predicament. When it comes to logic, people tend to ignore what's called judgement because of their cycled of hatred. It's dumb really. Regardless, sometimes people need to realize themselves what's right or what's wrong so that they will open their eyes up. If I was the one that make this thread, people will definitely trying to act like a idiot and flame on me even harder than Chrono's thread.
But hey, filth are always filth.
But hey, filth are always filth.
You know what's funny? It's like when people are showing some kind of honesty, good people are always get flamed by society, and then bad people are usually the one that get away with their predicament. When it comes to logic, people tend to ignore what's called judgement because of their cycled of hatred. It's dumb really. Regardless, sometimes people need to realize themselves what's right or what's wrong so that they will open their eyes up. If I was the one that make this thread, people will definitely trying to act like a idiot and flame on me even harder than Chrono's thread.
But hey, filth are always filth.
But hey, filth are always filth.
You know what's funny? It's like when people are showing some kind of honesty, good people are always get flamed by society, and then bad people are usually the one that get away with their predicament. When it comes to logic, people tend to ignore what's called judgement because of their cycled of hatred. It's dumb really. Regardless, sometimes people need to realize themselves what's right or what's wrong so that they will open their eyes up. If I was the one that make this thread, people will definitely trying to act like a idiot and flame on me even harder than Chrono's thread.
But hey, filth are always filth.
But hey, filth are always filth.
Calm down and tone down the edge mate, we are just poking fun of fictional characters, you know, we know, everyone knows why this thread was made...Zoro just got CoC and this is the way of Sanjistans to cope and try to justify to themselves why their fav should also get CoC.
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People saying he has a weak will backed by manga events triggered this meltdown?
meanwhile...
Tell me if this isn't pathetic enough?
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The problem is you so largely have to draw from like 90 volumes ago. If were technical it's been a good minute since even Zoro has stated his goal. But we know because it affects how he lives.
Chopper's antidote bomb goes with his dream.
Robin's dream has everything to do with her role in Wano.
Nami's dream is apparent any time she hits water. Her navigation skills are like the best in the series already, as we see from what's said by other characters.
Usopp stole the show in Dressrosa. His epithet is "God."
Franky goal is the ship manifest. His destiny was even touched by Oden's flashback.
How does All Blue compare?
Chopper's antidote bomb goes with his dream.
Robin's dream has everything to do with her role in Wano.
Nami's dream is apparent any time she hits water. Her navigation skills are like the best in the series already, as we see from what's said by other characters.
Usopp stole the show in Dressrosa. His epithet is "God."
Franky goal is the ship manifest. His destiny was even touched by Oden's flashback.
How does All Blue compare?