Who will be the next Strawhat


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This sounds like reasons that you don't want Yamato to join, not reasons that would actually prevent her from joining.
I'm curious what takes the other Yamato fans on here have.
Yes? I almost literally said that at the end, that I want someone established or plain to blend in (like Vivi or Carrot), because there is not much time left and I want to see more of the SHs I already know and love, not waste the time to develop another one from 0. And Yamato 100% steals the spotlight if she joins, so it's up to Oda what he wants for the crew.

Shortly after her introduction she made it to the top ten in the recent character popularity poll. She's already far more popular than most of the Strawhats. Displacing the least popular Strawhats is so weird as a reason for her not to join.
Idk, Carrot is more popular in Japan so far. Yamato was 19th. So it's depends, popularity in Japan is the main factor I believe.
Anyway, Oda can always make Yamato to travel with the HSs for a while to satisfy the needs of those who in love with her character.
 
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Yes? I almost literally said that at the end, that I want someone established or plain to blend in (like Vivi or Carrot), because there is not much time left and I want to see more of the SHs I already know and love, not waste the time to develop another one from 0. And Yamato 100% steals the spotlight if she joins, so it's up to Oda what he wants for the crew.
Who is Yamato stealing the spotlight from?
 
From the girls Nami and Robin 100%
Mostly from any SHs who isn't Zoro, Luffy and... Sanji? Idk, Sanji is in the weird spot too I guess (for the powerscalers at least) if Yamato the powerhouse joins.
Yamato’s not a powerhouse she’s just overinflated. Same thing happened to Franky in Water 7. End of arc she’ll be no where’s near Sanji Zoro or Luffy.

And what’s she taking from the girls? You’re basically saying adding Jinbe took away from Usopp and franky because Jinbes stronger but Usopp and Jinbe were more fun characters. Just like Robin and Nami are right now.
 
You’re basically saying adding Jinbe took away from Usopp and franky because Jinbes stronger but Usopp and Jinbe were more fun characters.
I'm not a powerscaler. Jimbe didn't took anything from anyone. OP fans were never that crazy about him in the first place for me to say he overshadows someone in the crew. He's among the least popular and profitable from (merch-wise)

And what’s she taking from the girls?
The queen of the boobs title of course! xd It always belonged to Nami afaik.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
Just saying that Carrot actually ranked 48th place in the Mid-term rankings for Japan.
My bad then, I thought she is higher. Not that I care much though, the main point was that Yamato isn't that crazy popular in Japan in comparison to NA or Oceania, for example.
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https://onepiecewt100.com/en/mid-term-rankings/asia
Yamato’s 11 spots higher than Carrot for Asia, and eight spots higher in the world rankings...so I’m not sure where you pulled that from, but it ain’t accurate.
As I said above, I don't care about Carrot much, the point was is Yamato isn't as popular in Japan as for the western folks. The reason? Idk. Japan isn't that crazy about "representation" stuff, I guess. When anime airs she will rank up better than 19 place tho, but we'll never know till the next poll.
 
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I would like her to join actually! But i like to theorize. You people should stop involve me in these kind of fights. I am not that kind of person! Sanji vs Zoro,Carrot vs Yamato,i dont care about any of these fights! I like to theorize by the way! And like i said,Yamato is really the perfect Nakama candidate...maybe too perfect? I find that suspicious,thats all.
This has nothing to do with 'fights' though.

Give me a good reason she's gonna die.

Oda has NEVER killed new arc main characters, NEVER, only side characters.

WCI? Jinbe didn't die but Pedro did.

Law didn't die in dressrosa even though people said he would.

Punk Hazard? Monet died but Law didn't. Even Mocha didn't die.

Dressrosa? Viola, Rebecca and Kyros didn't die either.

Even Pell and Chaka didn't die in the Alabasta Arc, even though they looked pretty dead when the arc finished.

For Wano Shimotsuki Yasuie already died before the raid even began, there you already have your death. Do we really need Yamato to die too??

So why the hell would Yamato die?? It isn't really a 'theory' if there isn't much evidence behind it. What do you even mean by 'too perfect'? That a person is too cool to join the straw hats therefore must be killed off? Going by that logic then i guess all the straw hats should have died too before they joined.

I know people in the One Piece community LOVE the 'tragedy' plotlines, where a beloved character suddenly dies, but Oda doesn't do that. This ain't Attack on Titan for god's sake. Having this plot technique overdone too many times just makes it become stupid.

One Piece's world building shows it as a unfair and imperfect world, but definitely not a desperate and hopeless one.

Pedro, whitebeard, Ace, Monet and Higuma are the only main arc side characters to have died. Yet none of them fit Yamato's situation in the current Wano Arc. Not counting antagonists and enemies of course.

Pedro? Was already foreshadowed to die when it was revealed that Big Mom took his lifespan.

Whitebeard? Was shown sick and hooked up to medical equipment in his very first introduction. Plus there was foreshadow with Ace vs Blackbeard on Banero Island where he said that Whitebeard's era was over.

Ace? The X on his name tattoo on his shoulder. Plus whitebeard's and shanks warnings.

Monet is a irrelevant side character to begin with, but Law taking her heart in place of Caesar's is good enough for-shadow.

Where's the foreshadow for Yamato?



I think the other thing that you fail to realize here too is that Yamato as a main character, has too little people that care about her to even make her death impactful. Aside from mayybe Luffy, who else in the Wano Arc cares about Yamato?? her papa kaido doesn't count here since he's a maniac and could have blown her hands off with the cuffs anyway-i'm sure he won't shed a tear. And momo and shinobu don't even know yamato well enough and are only just 2 people.

This was the same reason why Jinbe's death in WCI didn't happen, because not every straw hat was there to see it.

What would Yamato's death achieve if she were to die??
 
This has nothing to do with 'fights' though.

Give me a good reason she's gonna die.

Oda has NEVER killed new arc main characters, NEVER, only side characters.

WCI? Jinbe didn't die but Pedro did.

Law didn't die in dressrosa even though people said he would.

Punk Hazard? Monet died but Law didn't. Even Mocha didn't die.

Dressrosa? Viola, Rebecca and Kyros didn't die either.

Even Pell and Chaka didn't die in the Alabasta Arc, even though they looked pretty dead when the arc finished.

For Wano Shimotsuki Yasuie already died before the raid even began, there you already have your death. Do we really need Yamato to die too??

So why the hell would Yamato die?? It isn't really a 'theory' if there isn't much evidence behind it. What do you even mean by 'too perfect'? That a person is too cool to join the straw hats therefore must be killed off? Going by that logic then i guess all the straw hats should have died too before they joined.

I know people in the One Piece community LOVE the 'tragedy' plotlines, where a beloved character suddenly dies, but Oda doesn't do that. This ain't Attack on Titan for god's sake. Having this plot technique overdone too many times just makes it become stupid.

One Piece's world building shows it as a unfair and imperfect world, but definitely not a desperate and hopeless one.

Pedro, whitebeard, Ace, Monet and Higuma are the only main arc side characters to have died. Yet none of them fit Yamato's situation in the current Wano Arc. Not counting antagonists and enemies of course.

Pedro? Was already foreshadowed to die when it was revealed that Big Mom took his lifespan.

Whitebeard? Was shown sick and hooked up to medical equipment in his very first introduction. Plus there was foreshadow with Ace vs Blackbeard on Banero Island where he said that Whitebeard's era was over.

Ace? The X on his name tattoo on his shoulder. Plus whitebeard's and shanks warnings.

Monet is a irrelevant side character to begin with, but Law taking her heart in place of Caesar's is good enough for-shadow.

Where's the foreshadow for Yamato?



I think the other thing that you fail to realize here too is that Yamato as a main character, has too little people that care about her to even make her death impactful. Aside from mayybe Luffy, who else in the Wano Arc cares about Yamato?? her papa kaido doesn't count here since he's a maniac and could have blown her hands off with the cuffs anyway-i'm sure he won't shed a tear. And momo and shinobu don't even know yamato well enough and are only just 2 people.

This was the same reason why Jinbe's death in WCI didn't happen, because not every straw hat was there to see it.

What would Yamato's death achieve if she were to die??
It seems you are trying to convince yourself about that. I still have this theory that Yamato could die,and at the same time i have the theory that Yamato could join. We'll see which one of the two will happen,or maybe none of the two,and she travels on her own,for example. But i wonder why you seem so offended by the mere thought of someone considering Yamato's death! It could happen,like it could not. We'll see.
 
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It seems you are trying to convince yourself about that. I still have this theory that Yamato could die,and at the same time i have the theory that Yamato could join. We'll see which one of the two will happen,or maybe none of the two,and she travels on her own,for example. But i wonder why you seem so offended by the mere thought of someone considering Yamato's death! It could happen,like it could not. We'll see.
it was clear that she will join since Luffy assigned her with an important task like guarding Momo. there are many candidates like Law,Momo , Tama , Carrot but i think Yamato is the safest bet.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
It seems you are trying to convince yourself about that. I still have this theory that Yamato could die,and at the same time i have the theory that Yamato could join. We'll see which one of the two will happen,or maybe none of the two,and she travels on her own,for example. But i wonder why you seem so offended by the mere thought of someone considering Yamato's death! It could happen,like it could not. We'll see.
What's the theory about? Did you already post the details somewhere?
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Yamato to join the Straw Hats and to become the new ‘combatant’ of the crew, effectively replacing Zoro in that role who officially gets designated as the Vice-Captain.
Yes so far it is stated that he took a vice captain-like role in different portions of the manga, but I guess that alone is not good enough if he is really the VC which I most likely believe to be the case.
 
It seems you are trying to convince yourself about that. I still have this theory that Yamato could die,and at the same time i have the theory that Yamato could join. We'll see which one of the two will happen,or maybe none of the two,and she travels on her own,for example. But i wonder why you seem so offended by the mere thought of someone considering Yamato's death! It could happen,like it could not. We'll see.
ok I ain't the one trying to convince here. You're the one entertaining the idea that she could die without sufficient evidence and flimsy reasons.

You keep saying that you have this 'theory'. well, let's hear it then?

You say that i'm 'offended' by your theory that Yamato could die, when i'm actually annoyed seeing all these death theories being pushed down on a likable character and potential straw hat for god knows why.

I'm not petty enough to get worked over people writing the deathbed for a fictional character, i just wanna know why people love pushing the death theories when it doesn't align with what One Piece has been like all along, that and also why people keep pushing these kind of theories even though most often then not these deaths don't end up happening. Law didn't die like people said he would back on Dressrosa and Jinbe didn't die on WCI like people said he would.

is yamato's death something you seriously 'believe' will happen, or is this something you 'hope' will happen? And if so why? for emotional impact and shock value? Or are you saying this is something that could happen just because? Cause i can't tell.

I hope i didn't come across as mean or disrespectful, and if so, i apologize to you in advance. I'm just tired and annoyed of death theories being pushed down a likable character for no good reason, despite the evidence shown throughout the whole story of One Piece up till now that this is something that Oda does not do.

And let me go a step further and consider your idea so it doesn't look like i'm just trying to shit on you and your opinion for no reason.

Character deaths in One Piece happen to serve specific purposes and also happen under specific conditions, And in the case for Yamato none of them are needed, viable, or even make sense:

Reason 1: To cause conflict. This is done for plot reasons and is also the final nail to have luffy fight the antagonists. Wapol killing dr hiluirk, orochi killing yasuie etc. But this won't happen because Luffy and the Straw Hats are ALREADY in conflict, even better they are already fighting. Its already too busy to have Yamato die now, and its too late to have Yamato die later. We are already well past that point.

Reason 2: To have a profound and intimate impact on ANOTHER important character. The straw hat backstories and ace's death are probably the best examples of this- but so are the other examples of chaka/vivi, law/Corazon and etc. Yamato's death will impact who and help whom exactly??

Reason 3: To villainfy the antagonist. Akainu killing Ace and Whitebeard turned him into a villain. Blackbeard killing Thatch turned him into a villan. Who's gonna kill yamato that isn't already a villian in the Wano Arc?

Reason 4: The death tells a moral lesson and acts as a consequence of bad decisions. Pedro died by sacrificing himself to pay up for his previous mistakes that killed his brother. Whitebeard is also another example. Yamato hasn't done anything wrong so this reason can't even work.

I get the impression that Yamato dying will make the Wano Arc a better story is the driving reason of why people want it to happen, something that i disagree with as well, and in my opinion won't make the story better. Cause that to me would mean that Oda has run out of ideas and must resort to shock value in the form of character deaths to tell a good story, which i know that is not what oda is like (he's not hajime isayama). And neither is Oda trying to be masashi kishimoto to have character death be the driving force of conviction in life like what he did with sasuke and the death of his parents and later itachi. The Straw Hats and even the story as a whole are driven by dreams and hopes of the future, not death and losses of the past. Even though the straw have had important people in their life die, rarely has there been a case of a character dying to help push the straw hats to the future. It already happened to Ace to help push luffy to get stronger and reach the new world. AND it helped bring the arrival of the timeskip.

It is both too late in the Wano story arc, and too early in the Yonko Saga for Yamato dying here to be considered a good idea, or even make sense for it to happen at all. It would actually make more sense to have yamato die to push another character close to her to join the straw hats or carry out their will and leave wano. But no such character exists. Yamato is already carrying the will of Oden, she isn't gonna be able to pass it down to anybody else- she is the one who has to carry it out, fulfil it and live on.
 
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See I'd love to believe this, but Oda specifically delayed Jimbe joining the crew until after Sanji got a massive power up. I don't think Oda intends to displace Sanji as #3.
So what's the point with this? Sanji will obviously equal or even slightly surpass Jinbe since you said it, he's the consensus #3... And that doesn't matter whoever joins no matter how powerful that person will be... Sanji will remain #3, Jinbe #4... But Yamato would be a good mix considering that she can be #5 and form a new trio...

I am one of the most fanatic Yamato fans around (I built a subreddit & discord server for her). Even then, I still think Sanji will be stronger than her. If not soon, then at least EoS.

One simple reason: investment. Author & fans alike are already invested on his character, no matter how cute & awesome Yamato be, Sanji will always be the 3rd.
This...

From the girls Nami and Robin 100%
Mostly from any SHs who isn't Zoro, Luffy and... Sanji? Idk, Sanji is in the weird spot too I guess (for the powerscalers at least) if Yamato the powerhouse joins.
That won't happen... Luffy, Zoro and Nami won't be outshined...

Yamato’s not a powerhouse she’s just overinflated. Same thing happened to Franky in Water 7. End of arc she’ll be no where’s near Sanji Zoro or Luffy.

And what’s she taking from the girls? You’re basically saying adding Jinbe took away from Usopp and franky because Jinbes stronger but Usopp and Jinbe were more fun characters. Just like Robin and Nami are right now.
Luffy and Zoro she obviously won't be nearly powerful as them because they are different beasts... She, alongside Sanji and Jinbe, will likely form a new trio...

What would Yamato's death achieve if she were to die??
Happiness for her haters...

Even if Yamato dies, chances of other candidates like the 3Cs won't increase anyway since it's not about them...

Anyone who cracks the top twenty for Japan is very popular, and for someone who hasn’t even appeared in the anime yet to do it is pretty incredible.
Since you opened this up, just wondering, does the anime have a huge impact with the poll, considering that poll is manga-related?
 
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