General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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For your sake and mine, I’m gonna pretend I don’t know what that means. Regardless, I didn’t pick which of the two I like better based on looks - I think Carrot is an intriguing character, I think Yamato is far more interesting and has more potential in terms of the story, and none of that has anything to do with whether or not my dick twitches when I see them 
COC has no bearing on her chances of joining the crew IMO.
This sounds like reasons that you don't want Yamato to join, not reasons that would actually prevent her from joining.
In the first place, why would Oda care about Yamato displacing someone like Brook in popularity?
Shortly after her introduction she made it to the top ten in the recent character popularity poll. She's already far more popular than most of the Strawhats. Displacing the least popular Strawhats is so weird as a reason for her not to join.
Why would unpopular characters be more likely to join than one of the most popular characters?
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My only worry regarding Yamato joining is that she may be too strong and threaten the M3 hierarchy (see Jimbe not actually joining until after Sanji got the Raid Suit, it's as if Oda was unwilling to displace Sanji as #3 Strawhat). I'm worried that Yamato would be stronger than Sanji and may remain that way till EOS.
Yamato's Potential:
I'm not sure how strong current Yamato is, but I would guess that she's at worst slightly weaker than Jack (given her interactions with Sasaki and Ulti, Yamato appears to be above the Tobi Roppo even without relying on her DF abilities) and at best slightly stronger than King (there's not much reason to expect her to be on the level of Chapter 1000 Luffy).
Considering her heritage, at EOS, I could see her becoming a Top Tier.
The above could just be my inner Yamato simp speaking.
In expectation, I would place current Yamato above Sanji, and it's hard to see that changing by EOS. However, Oda could make Sanji as strong as he desires though, so this isn't that strong a contention.
I'm curious what takes the other Yamato fans on here have.
In the first place, why would Oda care about Yamato displacing someone like Brook in popularity?
Shortly after her introduction she made it to the top ten in the recent character popularity poll. She's already far more popular than most of the Strawhats. Displacing the least popular Strawhats is so weird as a reason for her not to join.
Why would unpopular characters be more likely to join than one of the most popular characters?
On thread:
My only worry regarding Yamato joining is that she may be too strong and threaten the M3 hierarchy (see Jimbe not actually joining until after Sanji got the Raid Suit, it's as if Oda was unwilling to displace Sanji as #3 Strawhat). I'm worried that Yamato would be stronger than Sanji and may remain that way till EOS.
Yamato's Potential:
- She's Kaido's only daughter.
- Kaido taught her his fighting style.
- Kaido sought to make her Shogun (this might indicate that he holds her combat ability in high regard).
- While holding back (and without the use of her DF ability), she could stalemate Ace
- Ace regarded her as strong
- While holding back (and without the use of her DF ability), she could stalemate G2/G3 Luffy
- Luffy regarded her as strong
- Her Devil Fruit seems to be considerably powerful given how spooked Sasaki was at seeing her transform.
I'm not sure how strong current Yamato is, but I would guess that she's at worst slightly weaker than Jack (given her interactions with Sasaki and Ulti, Yamato appears to be above the Tobi Roppo even without relying on her DF abilities) and at best slightly stronger than King (there's not much reason to expect her to be on the level of Chapter 1000 Luffy).
Considering her heritage, at EOS, I could see her becoming a Top Tier.
The above could just be my inner Yamato simp speaking.
In expectation, I would place current Yamato above Sanji, and it's hard to see that changing by EOS. However, Oda could make Sanji as strong as he desires though, so this isn't that strong a contention.
I'm curious what takes the other Yamato fans on here have.
This sounds like reasons that you don't want Yamato to join, not reasons that would actually prevent her from joining.
In the first place, why would Oda care about Yamato displacing someone like Brook in popularity?
Shortly after her introduction she made it to the top ten in the recent character popularity poll. She's already far more popular than most of the Strawhats. Displacing the least popular Strawhats is so weird as a reason for her not to join.
Why would unpopular characters be more likely to join than one of the most popular characters?
On thread:
My only worry regarding Yamato joining is that she may be too strong and threaten the M3 hierarchy (see Jimbe not actually joining until after Sanji got the Raid Suit, it's as if Oda was unwilling to displace Sanji as #3 Strawhat). I'm worried that Yamato would be stronger than Sanji and may remain that way till EOS.
Yamato's Potential:
I'm not sure how strong current Yamato is, but I would guess that she's at worst slightly weaker than Jack (given her interactions with Sasaki and Ulti, Yamato appears to be above the Tobi Roppo even without relying on her DF abilities) and at best slightly stronger than King (there's not much reason to expect her to be on the level of Chapter 1000 Luffy).
Considering her heritage, at EOS, I could see her becoming a Top Tier.
The above could just be my inner Yamato simp speaking.
In expectation, I would place current Yamato above Sanji, and it's hard to see that changing by EOS.o However, Oda coul make Sanji as strong as he desires though, so this isn't that strong a contention.
I'm curious what takes the other Yamato fans on here have.
In the first place, why would Oda care about Yamato displacing someone like Brook in popularity?
Shortly after her introduction she made it to the top ten in the recent character popularity poll. She's already far more popular than most of the Strawhats. Displacing the least popular Strawhats is so weird as a reason for her not to join.
Why would unpopular characters be more likely to join than one of the most popular characters?
On thread:
My only worry regarding Yamato joining is that she may be too strong and threaten the M3 hierarchy (see Jimbe not actually joining until after Sanji got the Raid Suit, it's as if Oda was unwilling to displace Sanji as #3 Strawhat). I'm worried that Yamato would be stronger than Sanji and may remain that way till EOS.
Yamato's Potential:
- She's Kaido's only daughter.
- Kaido taught her his fighting style.
- Kaido sought to make her Shogun (this might indicate that he holds her combat ability in high regard).
- While holding back (and without the use of her DF ability), she could stalemate Ace
- Ace regarded her as strong
- While holding back (and without the use of her DF ability), she could stalemate G2/G3 Luffy
- Luffy regarded her as strong
- Her Devil Fruit seems to be considerably powerful given how spooked Sasaki was at seeing her transform.
I'm not sure how strong current Yamato is, but I would guess that she's at worst slightly weaker than Jack (given her interactions with Sasaki and Ulti, Yamato appears to be above the Tobi Roppo even without relying on her DF abilities) and at best slightly stronger than King (there's not much reason to expect her to be on the level of Chapter 1000 Luffy).
Considering her heritage, at EOS, I could see her becoming a Top Tier.
The above could just be my inner Yamato simp speaking.
In expectation, I would place current Yamato above Sanji, and it's hard to see that changing by EOS.o However, Oda coul make Sanji as strong as he desires though, so this isn't that strong a contention.
I'm curious what takes the other Yamato fans on here have.
One simple reason: investment. Author & fans alike are already invested on his character, no matter how cute & awesome Yamato be, Sanji will always be the 3rd.
See I'd love to believe this, but Oda specifically delayed Jimbe joining the crew until after Sanji got a massive power up. I don't think Oda intends to displace Sanji as #3.
Do you mind sharing the links?
I agree that it's true that Oda could make Sanji stronger by authorial fiat, but excluding such meta reasons, there aren't really narrative or portrayal reasons to expect Sanji to end up stronger than her.
What is the limit of the investment argument? Would this guarantee that if Law joined the crew he would become weaker than Sanji? What about for Ace? Is Sanji's position as #3 absolute.
Yamato's from the same generation as Ace (only a few years older than him). Both are the only biological children of the strongest pirates (for Ace, Roger and for Yamato, Kaido), and so should have similar innate potential. When Yamato actually fought Ace, she was able to match him without the use of her Devil Fruit and perhaps while holding back.
At least 4 years ago, Yamato was significantly stronger than Ace (assuming her Hybrid from grants a similar boost as her father's).
Given their similar potential and that Yamato has had two extra years to grow, she should also be significantly stronger than Ace at his death. A possible caveat is that Yamato was a prisoner on Onigashima while Ace grew strong over his many battles as a pirate. I think this has some merit, but not that much (Yamato may have fought against the other Beast Pirates. Either way, she knows Kaido's fighting style so received training from him directly).
Had a hypothetical Ace joined the Strawhats, would they end up weaker than Sanji?
Oda has an extremely bad track record with female characters (especially fighters, see Mama, Smoothie, etc.), so perhaps I'm being too optimistic to expect so much of her.
Do you mind sharing the links?
I agree that it's true that Oda could make Sanji stronger by authorial fiat, but excluding such meta reasons, there aren't really narrative or portrayal reasons to expect Sanji to end up stronger than her.
What is the limit of the investment argument? Would this guarantee that if Law joined the crew he would become weaker than Sanji? What about for Ace? Is Sanji's position as #3 absolute.
Yamato's from the same generation as Ace (only a few years older than him). Both are the only biological children of the strongest pirates (for Ace, Roger and for Yamato, Kaido), and so should have similar innate potential. When Yamato actually fought Ace, she was able to match him without the use of her Devil Fruit and perhaps while holding back.
At least 4 years ago, Yamato was significantly stronger than Ace (assuming her Hybrid from grants a similar boost as her father's).
Given their similar potential and that Yamato has had two extra years to grow, she should also be significantly stronger than Ace at his death. A possible caveat is that Yamato was a prisoner on Onigashima while Ace grew strong over his many battles as a pirate. I think this has some merit, but not that much (Yamato may have fought against the other Beast Pirates. Either way, she knows Kaido's fighting style so received training from him directly).
Had a hypothetical Ace joined the Strawhats, would they end up weaker than Sanji?
Oda has an extremely bad track record with female characters (especially fighters, see Mama, Smoothie, etc.), so perhaps I'm being too optimistic to expect so much of her.
Is this 'Jinbei will die 2.0?' hoping for a character to die so they won't join the crew? Is this what we have come to??
Unbelievable! Well thank god it ain't us fans writing One Piece, otherwise it will turn out worse than Naruto shitty fanfiction!
Unbelievable! Well thank god it ain't us fans writing One Piece, otherwise it will turn out worse than Naruto shitty fanfiction!
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