Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1011 Spoilers Discussion

[WesMidnight]

just to throw in. Luffys Garp would be coby if we would want to force that idea...

Luffy is "Luffy's Garp".
Roger was younger than Garp and they were constant rivals, Coby is someone inspired by Luffy who has never rivalled him.
Luffy is the one standing up against "Rocks".
Luffy is the one standing up against the tenryuubito.
Luffy and Garp have similar personalities, with Luffy being even more extreme and outrageous than his grandfather.
Coby is a timid guy with a good heart who can muster true bravery in spite of fear.

 

[Seraphoenix]

lol wtf happened with you and them

Can't have a conversation where manga facts are completely ignored or in the case of MarineHQ where he outright lies about what you say, then refuses to quote what he says you said. All the while acting like a smug prick. Don't need that energy

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

Feel free to quote me where I said it is trash writing or powerscaling is inconsistent.
Dont be mad the knock down ended up in nothing. I told you it would, didnt want to believe me.

All of his hits result in nothing, just like I said they would. He remains an ineffective combatant.
The solution is chopping Kaido's head off and Luffy is not able to do that. Zoro will save his ass once again.

luffy weak af. Zoro>Kaido

 

[Vinsmoke Ichiji]

Killer vs Hawkins will be the same as Kikunojo vs Kanjuro

Killer will walk past him

 

[kom5]

how do you know its adv CoA ?

Because you coat your adv haki with COC and it increase the range of its shield
Thats not entire COC its COC fused with COA

When Doflamingo and Luffy clashed both used COA with COC in basic form though Luffy didnt realize like Zoro

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda didn't tell the truth when he said it's Zoro's arc
This bow is Luffy's Like Whole Cake Island's was Luffy's too.

This arch is Luffy's ascencion.

This isn’t Zoros arc, never was

 

[Captain Luffy]

Except there is a massive problem with this type of assumption because it acts anyone who picks up a sword is automatically shit if they fought Mihawk.

I'm not saying Mihawk isn't one of the strongest characters in the world, but this is precisely the Shanks vs Mihawk discussion every time. Neither have lost to the other yet one has the title. Is it even fair to say Shanks is weaker than Mihawk if we can't even say for sure Mihawk has won or was it because they stopped fighting entirely due to his arm? Is it fair to say Mihawk is weaker or stronger based on a title and not defined history and examples?

Like, hypothetically, what are people going to say if Luffy and Zoro fight Shanks and Mihawk in the EoS respectively? What if Shanks just fights different from Mihawk? Are we just going to have constant reactionary discussions about a title instead of understanding what we read on a page?

Same shit is happening now with Luffy and Kaido. Because of a title, people can't even process this 1v1 and call it garbage lol. Its ONLY going to get worse.

yeah, its like oda sometimes do stuff to hype up and later when plot & characters doesnot fit in it, he doesnt care least about it of what he said before.Titles are just like that.

I believe oda made title to only destroy(surpass) for other major character follow up.

Like WSM was destroyed for blackbeard as reference for EOS villain.

WSS will be destroyed by zoro and WSC will be done for luffy...

 

[Law-sama]

Luffy already this strong and then he will improve again when fighting BB
Akainu get stomped hard

 

[Sir Yasheen]

just to throw in. Luffys Garp would be coby if we would want to force that idea...

Come now we all knoe Smoker is closes tto “Luffys Garp,” Cobys a fanboy

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Luffy and Kaido replicated the CLASH feat of WB PRIME and PK Roger, and SHANKS and KAIDO 2 years ago probably overcame it.

@Seraphoenix @Red Admiral ​

 

[zzShinichi]

Dang is Luffy bending Kaidou's kanabo here?

 

[5000 ng/dl or death]

Because you coat your adv haki with COC and it increase the range of its shield
Thats not entire COC its COC fused with COA

When Doflamingo and Luffy clashed both used COA with COC in basic form though Luffy didnt realize like Zoro

You can still use adv CoA without needing CoC, but for advanced CoC you need advanced CoA? Or I'm not following

 

[Mugiwara56]

I no longer see a combination of Gear 4 + Future Haki + Ryo + Haki of the Advanced Kings to beat Kaido

I think Luffy will lose this round but win the next one against Wano Kuni. And suddenly this would be when he would use all his advanced hakis (weaponry, observations, king) in addition to his Gear 4.

 

[Salah WG]

If Base Luffy can Clash like that with Hybrid Kaido then he definitely have something more up his sleeve to Fight Gear 4 Luffy.
Tbh i don't think Oda revealed his DF & we are supposed to believe it's what allowed him to be this Dragon

It might seem crazy but i think Kaido haven't used his DF yet lol
This is just his Original Powers

After all, Vegapunk used him to create Momo's DF
If Vegapunk was trying to Copy a DF Power then why doesn't he do it with others to create other Fruits? Why only Dragon Fruit?
I think it's clear that Vegapunk wanted to Copy Kaido's Unique Race, not recreate his DF

So i wonder what will his DF Powers turn out to be

 

[kom5]

Luffy already this strong and then he will improve again when fighting BB
Akainu get stomped hard

assuming this Akainu vs Luffy can easily be debunked with the fact that Sabo and Im-sama appeared
Luffy doesnt need necessarily to fight Akainu

 

[nik87]

The fight between Luffy and Kaido just started. Asura and all that other shit was just filler. Other Straw Hats have to beat their opponents before anything truly meaningful happens

Just started? What were you reading the last 11 chapters?
You mean all this time when Luffy couldnt do shit doesnt count? lol
In that case, all of this wont count either because until Zoro chops his head off, nothing will bring Kaido down for good and you know it.

luffy weak af. Zoro>Kaido

He should try picking up a sharp weapon, will be able to do things in one hit what he cant do with 100 now.
And of course, Zoro is already the strongest in the universe. Kaido was lucky that Zoro was at his end.

 

[Captain Rocks]

Less than 100 chapters later:

By the same pattern,Kaido gonna get his ass kicked in the next 5-6 chapters :/​

 

[Bullet]

Can't have a conversation where manga facts are completely ignored or in the case of MarineHQ where he outright lies about what you say, then refuses to quote what he says you said. All the while acting like a smug prick. Don't need that energy

What is happening? I liked this post three times for my like to finally stay

 

[draganax]

what law said was right from my perspective since said that kid's influence over the box diminished due to lack of control, and not him getting Shocked to an extreme extent or getting knocked out completely

yeah, i can agree with this, i forgot that box was portrayed to be of special making, there could be more gimmicks to it than i thought, it may not be because of the attack cuz he took a punch earlier and nothing happened, maybe his magnetism gets weak if there's obstacles between kid an the metal, kid was maintaining control while he was outside now that he's inside the castle he lost it, that does kinda add some sense to what happened

 

[kom5]

You can still use adv CoA without needing CoC, but for advanced CoC you need advanced CoA? Or I'm not following

Yes it is what Luffy did the distance isnt like it if you combine it with a short medium unlike if you coat it with adv coa the medium distance increase COC isnt use alone it is combined with COA you can see it clear in Luffys and BM case