Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 963: Becoming Samurai

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Wait wtf.... the boar survived??? How??
Take away Haki and even Buggy wouldn't be phased by that slash. Other than Buggy, Logias, certain Paramecias like Katakuri and who knows what else.

Other than DF's you'd have Homies and perhaps there are beasts and creatures out there with Wolverine-level regeneration or are very hard to kill, even getting bisected in half.

Whitebeard at MF was walking around with half his head and brain melted off. Did diddly squat.

Point is, Oda has shown from early on that it's plausible for a living being to survive being cut up to pieces. Never mind the mechanism involved.
 
He certainly was more qualified than Marco :gokulaugh:

What people miss though is that anyway WB didn't need to have a Rayleigh's equal.

Big dogs don't interfere in each others fight. You don't see Zoro interfering in Luffy's fight or viceversa. Even if Rayleigh could piss on the #2 of the WBP he wouldn't just go off helping Roger... He would clear other fodders or just sit there and watch from the sidelines.
 
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Luffy has sensed people strength too starting in fishmen island when he sensed Caribou from far away.

He also sensed Fujitora was strong.

Whitebeard most likely is a CoC Specialist, his endurance confirms this.
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WB in sleep could defeat Ace many times

While BM in sleep, it was her Homies who attacked.
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Like I said I doubt this is prime WB. This WB was likely on par with current Luffy or Weevil
:suresure: The fact you typed this with serious face

YOUNG WB (36 y.o) 38 years ago under rocks was already around current luffy or FS luffy (Yc1+)

This is prime WB (44) in early stage of his prime
His final peak is when he is WSM and later on Emperor.
WB was solid top tier 33 years ago already
 
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I think oden served like 2 years in whitebeard crew. After this momonosuke was born.

25-26 years ago he joins roger by this time hiyori was born.

I assume shukiyaki died after oden completed his journey in laughtale then he planned to open the wano borders.
 
Act 3 is already better than 2. It won't be as long and Oden wanting to set sail to see the world remind us a bit of why being a pirate is perceived in OP world, outside of seeing old gen in action.
Also WB doesn't have the WSM in his introduction box
 
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I think oden served like 2 years in whitebeard crew. After this momonosuke was born.

25-26 years ago he joins roger by this time hiyori was born.

I assume shukiyaki died after oden completed his journey in laughtale then he planned to open the wano borders.
This chapter was 30 years ago. However, Momo is 28 years old. So, he was conceived 29 years ago. So, we have like 1 year for Oden to meet Lady Toki and impregnate her.
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Also WB doesn't have the WSM in his introduction box
Is it possible for WB to have WSM title as long as Roger was alive?
 
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Homelander

This chapter was 30 years ago. However, Momo is 28 years old. So, he was conceived 29 years ago. So, we have like 1 year for Oden to meet Lady Toki and impregnate her.
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Is it possible for WB to have WSM title as long as Roger was alive?
welps that means he journeyed like around 1 year + with whitebeard and banged toki on Whitebeard ship. :wellwell:

No wonder whitebeard did not rescue oden in wano when kaido invade them. Chad oden got the chick and left to wano to be a family..
 
Oden making a joke about the way oden is supposed to be boiled is really some dark humor.
Kawamatsu is confirmed to be a fishman though we don't know what species of fish he is.
Now we know how and why Yasuie made his speech to all the scabbards. Pretty heartwarming.

Only Oden could ask WB to join his crew while attacking him.

I am hoping that this flashback will show Kaido while he was building his crew and growing stronger and I feel that Oden and him met and fought during Oden's journey outside of Wano which was one of Kaido's reasons for invading Wano.
 
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Like i said oden becoming pirate probably was a setback for him from becoming shogun.

They probably banned him from capital .

Orochi becomes shogun after shukiyaki dies of illness.

So last 5 years orochi probably was paranoid that oden s return will deprive him from getting his shogun chair he probably meet kaido at onigashima.
 

Remember when Luffy fought Kaido and they had this look to each other, altho Luffy was sweating? Maybe this is something related to CoC








I say it now and i will foreshadow following Panel, instead of Shanks-Crew with SHP-Crew, the last Panel of chapter 1000, the start of the final fight with Kaidos Crew:

Good note

Btw 271 chapters left for the Manga to end :cheers:
I'd say a bit more

Is it possible for WB to have WSM title as long as Roger was alive?
Good question. Maybe not
 
To be clearly said zoro is nowhere near odens level. I dont think we have seen prime version of oden yet.

Whitebeard is nowhere near his prime but still he took on oden s brute force.

This shows he was easily strong 30 years back. Perhaps he was not a yonko yet the crew looks young as well.

This only makes sense oden was important figure in WB pirates growth towards a yonko level status probably mentored likes of vista , marco and others.

Also i agree with people here this is not Prime whitebeard . Maybe he gets stronger in few more years.
Zoro is close to Pden and will probably surpass him after this arc. One piece isnt going on much longer. Zoro is cutting Kaido this arc. After Wano Zoro is equal to above prime Oden who fought Kaido 20 years ago. Oden started fast with his strength level, but his potential isn't has high has Zoro. Zoro will be WSS at 22.
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This chapter was 30 years ago. However, Momo is 28 years old. So, he was conceived 29 years ago. So, we have like 1 year for Oden to meet Lady Toki and impregnate her.
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Is it possible for WB to have WSM title as long as Roger was alive?
Yes, they said he got that before the great pirate era. Got to remember Roger got sick. The WB we see in this chapter didn't fight Roger yet because he doesn't have the scars he mentioned. Peak WB is probably 29-24 years ago when he had those extreme diff fights with Roger and got stronger.
 
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Marco - big shot Apprentice under WB - Supported an Emperor & mentioned among emperors
Shanks - big shot Apprentice under Roger - an Emperor
Kaido - big shot Apprentice under Xebec - an Emperor

All 3 essentially same generation when it comes to their prime. Hype for Marco or nah? I'm just saying.


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The difference is that Roger and Xebec both died early. Leaving Kaido and Shanks to fend for themselves and start their own crews. That extra weight on their shoulders has forced them to become as strong as they are. We see it with Luffy.

Marcos always had the WB blanket to rely on. As well as a df that allows him the luxury of straight up surviving almost anything lol

Marcos a beast tho I don’t dabble in power scaling as hard as they seem too on the forum but I expect big things from him either in Wano or vs weevil.
 
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Marco - big shot Apprentice under WB - Supported an Emperor & mentioned among emperors
Shanks - big shot Apprentice under Roger - an Emperor
Kaido - big shot Apprentice under Xebec - an Emperor

All 3 essentially same generation when it comes to their prime. Hype for Marco or nah? I'm just saying.


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oh totally with the marco anticipation. i'm sure he might get a heroic second wind. count on it. he is like zoro is to luffy he never gives up.
 
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