Vivre card says WB became the WSM before the Great Pirate Age began. So if those cards are considered canon, that means we are looking at prime WB in the flashback.
The great piraate age started 24 years ago. He still has 6 years and WB didn't look scared up. So he didn't fight Roger yet. We know extreme diff fights make you stronger. His crew was still young.
If Oden was a low top tier I could see that even if I had a different opinion. But if Oden was a legit Mid Top Tier I doubt that Zoro.. no even Luffy himself gonna surpass him in this arc. Don't misunderstand me Im sure Zoro gonna surpass Oden but it come out when he gonna surpass him, I don't really think it gonna be in Wano though.
Nothing against Zoro, he is sure a monster but Oden was equally clash with Prime Whitebeard, something which I can't even see with the current Luffy:LOL:
Zoro gonna get his hype for sure in this arc but I don't believe that Zoro surpass a Mid Top tier character this arc.
Zoro surpassing Oden really depends on the Kaido vs Oden fight
If it was a legit 1vs1 with Kaido trashing Oden until the later scars him then okay he's a low top tier
But
If it was an high diff fight and if Orochi helped Kaido against him..then Oden is a mid top tier
If Oden was a low top tier I could see that even if I had a different opinion. But if Oden was a legit Mid Top Tier I doubt that Zoro.. no even Luffy himself gonna surpass him in this arc. Don't misunderstand me Im sure Zoro gonna surpass Oden but it come out when he gonna surpass him, I don't really think it gonna be in Wano though.
Nothing against Zoro, he is sure a monster but Oden was equally clash with Prime Whitebeard, something which I can't even see with the current Luffy:LOL:
Zoro gonna get his hype for sure in this arc but I don't believe that Zoro surpass a Mid Top tier character this arc.
You spund crazy. One piece does not have 10 islands left bro. The SH are taking huge jump in Wano. Nobody outside of the top 10 in the verse is beating Luffy after Wano. Luffy just trained for 9 days and became low top tier and his extreme diff fighting will push him way pass that. Shanks said soon before Wano for a reason
Zoro will surpass Oden woth the black blade etc....
Zoro surpassing Oden really depends on the Kaido vs Oden fight
If it was a legit 1vs1 with Kaido trashing Oden until the later scars him then okay he's a low top tier
But
If it was an high diff fight and if Orochi helped Kaido against him..then Oden is a mid top tier
Zoro surpassing Oden really depends on the Kaido vs Oden fight
If it was a legit 1vs1 with Kaido trashing Oden until the later scars him then okay he's a low top tier
But
If it was an high diff fight and if Orochi helped Kaido against him..then Oden is a mid top tier
You spund crazy. One piece does not have 10 islands left bro. The SH are taking huge jump in Wano. Nobody outside of the top 10 in the verse is beating Luffy after Wano. Luffy just trained for 9 days and became low top tier and his extreme diff fighting will push him way pass that. Shanks said soon before Wano for a reason
Zoro will surpass Oden woth the black blade etc....
Why doesnt Shanks Rayleigh WB Roger have black blade
Shanks who rivaled and matched mohawk doesnt have it
Did Mihawk ever win with his Yoru black blade? Nah
Did he beat Shanks? Even vista? Nah
Call me when black blade is actually something about superior. Coz so far it only upgrade the sword durability.
Shishui was black blade and yet Oda tossed it aside and placed Enma as Zoro PU.
You have no feat/portrayal to place Mihawk above Shanks/Oden/Rayleigh
The "WSS black blade" nonsense doesn't work if your feats sucks.
See you in the coming chapters when Oda makes Mihawk lose to Navy or be rescued by Shanks crew.
When Mihawk doesn't fight Zoro
When Zoro barely even beat King/smoothie who are way below Prime Oden.
Like I said, you read fanfictions, you make up insane expectations and arguments
Just like you did with Orochi (top tier, YC1+) Oden (isnt top tier... bla bla ) BM , Emma ("Enma isn't a PU, zoro wont trade Shishui..)
Enjoy
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I wont lose my energy explaining to you how Oda is writing wano.
No where did Oda state Zoro will surpass Oden this arc.
Not EVEN Luffy went from not being barely Yc to being top tier in one arc!!
Stop the madness.
I'm Not even sure , luffy will clearly surpass Oden this arc. At best Equal.
Yet you BELIEVE Zoro will surpass Oden this arc.
Kidd has been put on luffy level by Oda.
Zoro has been put with Law Hawkins...
Guys who are below Doffy/Cracker currently.
Zoro isnt even gonna surpass 29 y.o Oden this arc.
Why doesnt Shanks Rayleigh WB Roger have black blade
Shanks who rivaled and matched mohawk doesnt have it
Did Mihawk ever win with his Yoru black blade? Nah
Did he beat Shanks? Even vista? Nah
Call me when black blade is actually something about superior. Coz so far it only upgrade the sword durability.
Shishui was black blade and yet Oda tossed it aside and placed Enma as Zoro PU.
You have no feat/portrayal to place Mihawk above Shanks/Oden/Rayleigh
The "WSS black blade" nonsense doesn't work if your feats sucks.
See you in the coming chapters when Oda makes Mihawk lose to Navy or be rescued by Shanks crew.
When Mihawk doesn't fight Zoro
When Zoro barely even beat King/smoothie who are way below Prime Oden.
Like I said, you read fanfictions, you make up insane expectations and arguments
Just like you did with Orochi (top tier, YC1+) Oden (isnt top tier... bla bla ) BM , Emma ("Enma isn't a PU, zoro wont trade Shishui..)
Enjoy
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I wont lose my energy explaining to you how Oda is writing wano.
Youre a fucking liar.
Never said orochi was a top tier
You have said oden is yc2 yc1 low top tier mid top tier top tier
Bm and kaido are scrubs
Never said he wouldnt give shusui up
He tamed enma in seconds and in the same chapter used it with no backslash so according to you hes suddenly jumped tiers
Lmfao youre the same clown spouting shit Like vet level zoro will fight yc3 kyoshiro as the final fight.
No one chats shit as much as you.
No one is as wrong as you.
Oden is a bonafide swordsman able to clash with wb. Why doesnt he have a black blade ?
Youre a fucking liar.
Never said orochi was a top tier
You have said oden is yc2 yc1 low top tier mid top tier top tier
Bm and kaido are scrubs
Never said he wouldnt give shusui up
He tamed enma in seconds and in the same chapter used it with no backslash so according to you hes suddenly jumped tiers
Lmfao youre the same clown spouting shit Like vet level zoro will fight yc3 kyoshiro as the final fight.
No one chats shit as much as you.
No one is as wrong as you.
Oden is a bonafide swordsman able to clash with wb. Why doesnt he have a black blade ?
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You spund crazy. One piece does not have 10 islands left bro. The SH are taking huge jump in Wano. Nobody outside of the top 10 in the verse is beating Luffy after Wano. Luffy just trained for 9 days and became low top tier and his extreme diff fighting will push him way pass that. Shanks said soon before Wano for a reason
