Character Discussion If Zoro was stronger than Luffy why is he still following Luffy as his subordinate?

Chapter 112 :
Zoro : This is a great chance... to see which is stronger: martial arts or swordsmanship...


Luffy: Right!! Then let's find out!!!


Neither of the two know who’s stronger than the other, Sanji isn’t even an equation when these two are on the board

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@Fenaker isnt that quote from Artur a mistranslation?

That Zoro is behind Luffy?
 
Or you are just making shit up ?
Luffy used CoC and Zoro said he had better do that or i would be the captain meaning using CoC is something needed for someone to be Zoro's captain now give me where CoC helped Luffy from FMI to WCI and made him win that fight ? Or wait Kid is a conqueror he should be stronger than Zoro guess whose feats strike here the CoC user or Zoro who blocked Hakai so they can run away and scarred Kaido for life .
At least be consistant with ur arguments here or you want me to body u by using Oda's manga again ?

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Zoro wanted to switch places with luffy to fight an admiral despite seeing that this is his captain who defeated Doffy but got trashed easily against Fuji he thought himself he could do better than his captain so you said that Zoro wouldn't follow a captain who is weaker than him why we have here Zoro believing he can fight better than him against an Admiral who made Luffy looking like clown ?
We just saw a chapter ago Zoro believing Luffy will defeat Kaido. Zoro believes in his captains strength he's shown it time and time again the manga
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Zoro is the only exception because his role is not only a combatant, his main role is he is the vice captain of the strawhats. The rest of the crew needs a designated role, but not Zoro.
It literally is not... If Oda wanted Zoro's job to be vice captain he would have made it clear long time ago...
Every SH member is the very best/will be the very best at their respective job.
Zoro's job is combatant. How convenient that the same guy is aiming for peak of strength as well, huh? But no, Luffy is stronger? ...

I dont wanna hear this powerscaling feats. Zoro takes great pride in Luffy as his captain. You know who will be most disappointed in Luffy if he is not the strongest in the crew? Yes, you guessed it right, that's Zoro himself. Didnt he tell Pica, "My captain dont have time for someone like you. You have to make do with me"?
Dont wanna hear powerscaling? Why are you discarding clear proof of Zoro's superiority? If you bury your head in the sand and discard proof, of course you will be thinking that Zoro is inferior, that's how we got into this situation in the first place, because the bubble was too fragile to handle the truth it didnt want to hear...

Luffy is strong enough, Zoro wont be disappointed because he is stronger than him. Zoro indeed takes great pride in Luffy as his captain and being stronger than Zoro has never been a requirement. When Zoro threatened to leave the crew, it had nothing to do with Luffy's strength. You buy too much into the hype of the words... While it was worded like that, Luffy was not able to handle Pica. He still cant.

And as much as you dismiss the point @LANJI CUCKSMOKE is making, there is no denying that Zoro said he will take over as captain if Luffy is not the strongest.
I dont see why you guys are upset about it. Zoro being on the same level or almost equal to the future PK is already remarkable. Dont be greedy.
Zoro literally didnt say that, lol. CoC blast has nothing to do in strength relation between Zoro and Luffy as it doesnt affect Zoro.
Why are people upset with Zoro being stronger? The character who solely revolves around strength being the strongest. Imagine that...
What a surprise... If you didnt realize by now that Zoro is stronger and always will be, I dont think you will ever realize it...
 
As far as I'm aware, the sentence can also be translated as "next to" and doesn't strictly imply that Zoro is weaker than Luffy.
The next to isn't valid according to den [X]
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still missing the point ......

its ok to believe what you want at this point.
Is Ronaldo and Lao G your new permanent additition to your posts ?:yasu:
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He gay for him like Fujitora that is why he follows him .
 
It literally is not... If Oda wanted Zoro's job to be vice captain he would have made it clear long time ago...
Every SH member is the very best/will be the very best at their respective job.
Zoro's job is combatant. How convenient that the same guy is aiming for peak of strength as well, huh? But no, Luffy is stronger? ...


Dont wanna hear powerscaling? Why are you discarding clear proof of Zoro's superiority? If you bury your head in the sand and discard proof, of course you will be thinking that Zoro is inferior, that's how we got into this situation in the first place, because the bubble was too fragile to handle the truth it didnt want to hear...

Luffy is strong enough, Zoro wont be disappointed because he is stronger than him. Zoro indeed takes great pride in Luffy as his captain and being stronger than Zoro has never been a requirement. When Zoro threatened to leave the crew, it had nothing to do with Luffy's strength. You buy too much into the hype of the words... While it was worded like that, Luffy was not able to handle Pica. He still cant.


Zoro literally didnt say that, lol. CoC blast has nothing to do in strength relation between Zoro and Luffy as it doesnt affect Zoro.
Why are people upset with Zoro being stronger? The character who solely revolves around strength being the strongest. Imagine that...
What a surprise... If you didnt realize by now that Zoro is stronger and always will be, I dont think you will ever realize it...
Luffy was not able to handle pica...and still can't?wtf are you reading?juan piece?
Mihawk said pirate king>wss!Straw hat power scaling is and always will be Luffy>Zoro>Sanji>>rest
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Luffy was not able to handle pica...and still can't?wtf are you reading?juan piece?
What good is all his firepower if it isnt hitting Pica's real body?
Cracker literally proved that his combat style is ineffective.
Pica is better version of Cracker. Luffy is hopeless.
You should know by now that OP combat depends purely on match-ups.
And Cracker and Pica are very bad match-ups for Luffy.
 
Luffy was not able to handle pica...and still can't?wtf are you reading?juan piece?
What good is all his firepower if it isnt hitting Pica's real body?
Cracker literally proved that his combat style is ineffective.
Pica is better version of Cracker. Luffy is hopeless.
You should know by now that OP combat depends purely on match-ups.
And Cracker and Pica are very bad match-ups for Luffy.
Pica only needed to be cornered and show his real body,like cracker!Manga stated Cracker>Doflamingo!Pica was probably weaker than Vergo!He only had a decent df and could not even coat his rocks with coa!Pica is not commander level!G3 gatling is a good enough counter for anything Pica can do,Luffy could destroy Noah with g3 gatling!You are getting impressed with pica's golem size!Size doesn't matter!Giants and Numbers are fodder!
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Pica only needed to be cornered and show his real body,like cracker!Manga stated Cracker>Doflamingo!Pica was probably weaker than Vergo!He only had a decent df and could not even coat his rocks with coa!Pica is not commander level!G3 gatling is a good enough counter for anything Pica can do,Luffy could destroy Noah with g3 gatling!You are getting impressed with pica's golem size!Size doesn't matter!Giants and Numbers are fodder!
Yes, Pica needs to be cornered and even someone as effective as Zoro was lucky that Pica ended up in the upper half.
Luffy is not effective in cornering Pica. That's simply how it is. A stronger puncher than him was also ineffective.
Manga has never said that Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo...

Without stone, you could make a case for Vergo>Pica but with stone Pica is far above.
Coating a mountain into CoA? Nobody is expecting him to do that because it is impossible.
Pica is above commander level. Put all 6 commanders together and they cannot cause as much trouble as Pica alone can.

Luffy didnt destroy even 1/10th of Noah with a barrage of G3... His G3 EG only broke off Pica's smallest part, the head.
Sure, the barrage would eventually destroy the mountain and what does that achieve? Nothing because Pica just reforms it...
Size indeed matters, it is what allows him to stay safe from all attacks used against him until he was forced to come out.
 

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Lets not go there. As much as I love Zoro, he is not stronger than Luffy.
Sure, I think it's reasonable to say that Luffy > Zoro. What I don't think is reasonable is the claim that Zoro will abandon Luffy if Luffy was somehow weaker than him. That is an insult to Zoro's character.
 
Zoro gets Hatchan while Luffy gets Arlong
Zoro gets Mr.1 while Luffy gets Crocodile a Warlord of the sea
Zoro gets Ohm while Luffy gets Enel
Zoro gets Kaku (2200 Doriki) while Luffy gets Lucci (4000 Doriki)
Zoro gets Pica while Luffy gets Doflamingo
Zoro gets Kamazou while Luffy gets Cracker and Katakuri
Zoro gets to Scar Kaido with his best move in a group fight while Luffy 1v1s him for dozens of minutes and gets compared to Legends

They are not equal nor are they relative........the guy you are talking about is Sanji, HE is relative to Zoro....but you will never accept that. Zoro and Sanji have always been and will always be closer to one another in power than Zoro is to Luffy. The difference will always be a noticeable gap but not too big, Zoro will always be a high diff fight for Luffy and I stick by that till the end of the story but anyone denying this clear gap is lost. ( Luffy=10, Zoro=8 and Sanji=7.5)<-----This is what the story has indicated and no matter what happens Oda will always return back to this system.
Oda told us they are equal in strength and Kuma considered Zoro has equal value to Luffy.

What about when Zoro destroyed Hyouzou and Hody while Luffy had problems with both. There's Axe hand Morgan, Hawkins and Apoo. You should add how much difficult Luffy has in battle against his opponents and compare them to Zoro's difficulty.

The battle with Kaido is not over. Oda has hinted Zoro will kill him since Punk Hazard. Remember, none of Luffy's attacks where effective before his growth during battle and Luffy still haven't scarred Kaido. While Zoro has already scarred Kaido and he hasn't obtained his battle growth.
 
Luffy didnt destroy even 1/10th of Noah with a barrage of G3... His G3 EG only broke off Pica's smallest part, the head.
Sure, the barrage would eventually destroy the mountain and what does that achieve? Nothing because Pica just reforms it...
Size indeed matters, it is what allows him to stay safe from all attacks used against him until he was forced to come out.
This may be true, but Luffy would've still folded the bastard no problem

 
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