General & Others Proof Zoro>Luffy, and that hate against Zoro is at an all time high.
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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mobility arguement - Zoro was the one saving Luffy's ass from emperors while holding him. Luffy can't even save himself. Zoro>Luffy
endurance argument - Zoro went down because of food poisoning and hiyori plot line. Zoro took Hakai and went on to bully Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy got KO'ed by Apoo, and by Kaido(multiple times). Not to mention Luffy had to be carried after G4 limit, Zoro was moving on his own after Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
physical strength argument - Luffy clashed with Kaido because of CoC haki, not strength. When Luffy tried to stop Kaido club with physical strength, he got sent flying. Zoro stopped multiple club attacks from Kaido with physical strength. He also stopped Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
durability argument- Luffy is more durable than Zoro because of his fruit. Which makes it even funnier that Zoro has better endurance than condom with elastic properties saving him.
DC argument - What a joke? Zoro casually cut up mountains. Pica's hand itself was stated to be the size of the city of Dressrosa. Zoro's also changed the coastline of Wano with casual slashes. Luffy was struggling against Noah. If Noah is small Island lvl, Pica is at least large Island lvl. Go look at the scales. And even if Luffy used G4 KKG, we already seen that KKG does not have the DC of 1080 phoenix, much less santoryu ougi. Zoro>Luffy
Range argument - Zoro cut across Onigashima, snakeman's range was limit in Mirror world. Luffy's barely has the range to wrap his arm around Golem Pica. Zoro>Luffy
Observation Haki argument - Luffy does have great applications of CoO, but so does Zoro. BOAT. Not only that, Luffy was getting caught off guard by Apoo and the Yonko. Zoro wasn't. Even Sanji have better CoO than Luffy without even having FS. Not to mention, but Zoro is much faster than Luffy, FS Luffy can rarely avoid Kaido. Zoro>Luffy
Armament Haki argument- Just stop. Lol. Zoro's CoA shit's on Luffy. Zoro was using pure CoA when he made Kaido and Big Mom crap bricks from his intensity. Luffy needs CoC to buff his CoA. Even with the buff, Luffy can't even damage Kaido like Zoro. Luffy can't even break Kaido's teeth. LOL @Fenaker . And Zoro was using barrier pre-ts, and he used it in Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa, and against Hakai. Zoro>Luffy
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Mobility - Love how you ignore the fact he only held him when Luffy was on G4 cooldown, in which literally everyone and their grandma is more mobile than Luffy.
But what can't be ignored is the fact that even 1003 chapters in, chicken-legs still needs people like Law to give him a lift...
It's always been an issue with Zolo. Everyone loves talking about Zolo's Pica Slice, but nobody wants to mention the force behind Orlumbus' legendary throw that allowed him to be there in the first place...
As far as mobility is concerned, there is no argument to be made lol even back in Thriller Bark I can recall Zolo needing Sanji's kicks to close in on Oars. Bottom line is Luffy can fly Zolo can't, the only times Zolo is as mobile as Luffy is when Luffy is in base form, or not being serious.
Endurance - NO Zolo didn't faint due to the food poisoning don't make excuses, Zolo himself makes no excuse so the fandom shouldn't either. The fight was a win anyways, but it just goes to show you the lack of endurance that swordsmen have compared to brawlers when all it takes is 1 clean hit on eachother for the fight to end.
Physical Strength - There's no separating Haki & physical strength, they are innately tied to each other and balance each other out. I'm reading through 1012 and Kaido doesn't send Luffy flying when Luffy tried kicking Kaido's club, Luffy just jumps back. In 1013 Kaido fails to overpower Luffy's CoC punch, and then moments later they clash equally. Either Luffy's Advanced CoC is above Hybrid Kaido's, or his Physical Strength is above Kaido's, but the most likely answer is that neither are true and Hybrid Kaido & Base Luffy's Physical Strength and Adv. CoC are simply equal to each other.
Zolo was able to overpower Hybrid Kaido only once, and that was when Kaido wasn't using Adv. CoC where Zolo was in his final, strongest form. So yes, Zolo can situationally overpower Kaido but that's assuming Kaido isn't using Adv. CoC and Zolo is in his best form.
Durability - Imagine whining about Luffy having a DF as if every admiral and majority of top-tiers don't use devil fruits, his fighting style is intertwined with his DF you can't seperate them and complain. It's foolish, perhaps I should pick at Zolo's durability only being high because he uses swords to defend himself, but no I would not make that argument because it's a disrespect to the character's fighting style and being. And no Luffy's durability being higher also means his endurance is higher, Zolo could barely endure Hakai for a few seconds before having 20-30 of his bones shattered, Zolo literally getting carried around right now wrapped up like a burrito.
DC argument - Show me Zolo "casually" slicing mountains, the one time he cut a mountain he needed Orlumbus' help and even then he made sure to give a nice long speech to-go. A truly impressive cut would be Law cutting not one mountain like Zolo, but an entire mountain RANGE without breaking a sweat.
And no Pica is not small-island size quit the BS, this has been debunked, Ussop was using hyperbole
Pica's golem is hardly bigger in mass than the Flower Hill which isn't island size whatsoever, perhaps a small town-size at most.
Noah on the other hand? About half the size of Fishman island, which still puts it at around small Island level where Pica is only about as big as the average mountain. Luffy still wins.
Range - He didn't cut across Onigashima, only across the skull of Onigashima which might I add isn't even that big. Onigashima is a tiny island that would only make up a small fraction of all of Wano.
Honestly looks to be about a mile in length, whereas MirroWorld actually extends all across Totto Land, the Mirroworld is actually hundreds and hundreds of miles in length from what we have seen.
Zolo has ranged attacks but it isn't his style, Luffy however can go into Snakeman mode and consistently spam high-speed, homing CoO pythons from across the board; when Zolo fights from afar it's usually an attack or two yet Luffy has an entire mode who's fighting style is ranged.
CoA - Zolo's armament is worse than Luffy's, throughout the majority of the Rooftop fight, Kaido instantly shrugged off any attacks Zolo threw at him just like he shrugged off all the Scabbard's attacks, the only one doing any damage most of the time was Luffy who was able to actually stun Kaido for several panels and was dealing damage internal damage to his organs. The only time Zolo did any significant damage was when he used Asura, which even still wasn't that impressive as the cut it left was rather small and did not hit any vital areas.
Kaido immedietly went to equaling base Luffy 1v1 without issue after he took Zolo's attack.
CoC - Goes without saying, Luffy can spam CoC attacks Zolo can only use it once in extreme conditions.
So yeah your arguments were weak Luffy still craps on Zolo in every category
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Mobility - Love how you ignore the fact he only held him when Luffy was on G4 cooldown, in which literally everyone and their grandma is more mobile than Luffy.
But what can't be ignored is the fact that even 1003 chapters in, chicken-legs still needs people like Law to give him a lift...
It's always been an issue with Zolo. Everyone loves talking about Zolo's Pica Slice, but nobody wants to mention the force behind Orlumbus' legendary throw that allowed him to be there in the first place...
As far as mobility is concerned, there is no argument to be made lol even back in Thriller Bark I can recall Zolo needing Sanji's kicks to close in on Oars. Bottom line is Luffy can fly Zolo can't, the only times Zolo is as mobile as Luffy is when Luffy is in base form, or not being serious.
Endurance - NO Zolo didn't faint due to the food poisoning don't make excuses, Zolo himself makes no excuse so the fandom shouldn't either. The fight was a win anyways, but it just goes to show you the lack of endurance that swordsmen have compared to brawlers when all it takes is 1 clean hit on eachother for the fight to end.
Physical Strength - There's no separating Haki & physical strength, they are innately tied to each other and balance each other out. I'm reading through 1012 and Kaido doesn't send Luffy flying when Luffy tried kicking Kaido's club, Luffy just jumps back. In 1013 Kaido fails to overpower Luffy's CoC punch, and then moments later they clash equally. Either Luffy's Advanced CoC is above Hybrid Kaido's, or his Physical Strength is above Kaido's, but the most likely answer is that neither are true and Hybrid Kaido & Base Luffy's Physical Strength and Adv. CoC are simply equal to each other.
Zolo was able to overpower Hybrid Kaido only once, and that was when Kaido wasn't using Adv. CoC where Zolo was in his final, strongest form. So yes, Zolo can situationally overpower Kaido but that's assuming Kaido isn't using Adv. CoC and Zolo is in his best form.
Durability - Imagine whining about Luffy having a DF as if every admiral and majority of top-tiers don't use devil fruits, his fighting style is intertwined with his DF you can't seperate them and complain. It's foolish, perhaps I should pick at Zolo's durability only being high because he uses swords to defend himself, but no I would not make that argument because it's a disrespect to the character's fighting style and being. And no Luffy's durability being higher also means his endurance is higher, Zolo could barely endure Hakai for a few seconds before having 20-30 of his bones shattered, Zolo literally getting carried around right now wrapped up like a burrito
DC argument - Show me Zolo "casually" slicing mountains, the one time he cut a mountain he needed Orlumbus' help and even then he made sure to give a nice long speech to-go. A truly impressive cut would be Law cutting not one mountain like Zolo, but an entire mountain RANGE without breaking a sweat.
And no Pica is not small-island size quit the BS, this has been debunked, Ussop was using hyperbole
Pica's golem is hardly bigger in mass than the Flower Hill which isn't island size whatsoever, perhaps a small town-size at most.
Noah on the other hand? About half the size of Fishman island, which still puts it at around small Island level where Pica is only about as big as the average mountain. Luffy still wins.
Range - He didn't cut across Onigashima, only across the skull of Onigashima which might I add isn't even that big. Onigashima is a tiny island that would only make up a small fraction of all of Wano.
Honestly looks to be about a mile in length, whereas MirroWorld actually extends all across Totto Land, the Mirroworld is actually hundreds and hundreds of miles in length from what we have seen.
Zolo has ranged attacks but it isn't his style, Luffy however can go into Snakeman mode and consistently spam high-speed, homing CoO pythons from across the board, when Zolo fights from afar it's usually an attack or two yet Luffy has an entire mode who's fighting style is ranged.
CoA - Zolo's armament is worse than Luffy's, throughout the majority of the Rooftop fight, Kaido instantly shrugged off any attacks Zolo threw at him just like he shrugged off all the Scabbard's attacks, the only one doing any damage most of the time was Luffy who was able to actually stun Kaido for several panels and was dealing damage internal damage to his organs. The only time Zolo did any significant damage was when he used Asura, which even still wasn't that impressive as the cut it left was rather small and did not hit any vital areas.
Kaido immedietly went to equaling base Luffy 1v1 without issue after he took Zolo's attack.
CoC - Goes without saying, Luffy can spam CoC attacks Zolo can only use it once in extreme conditions.
So yeah your arguments were weak Luffy still craps on Zolo in every category
How about you come up with a rebuttal yourself? Oh wait you probably have none
But what can't be ignored is the fact that even 1003 chapters in, chicken-legs still needs people like Law to give him a lift...
It's always been an issue with Zolo. Everyone loves talking about Zolo's Pica Slice, but nobody wants to mention the force behind Orlumbus' legendary throw that allowed him to be there in the first place...
As far as mobility is concerned, there is no argument to be made lol even back in Thriller Bark I can recall Zolo needing Sanji's kicks to close in on Oars. Bottom line is Luffy can fly Zolo can't, the only times Zolo is as mobile as Luffy is when Luffy is in base form, or not being serious.
Endurance - NO Zolo didn't faint due to the food poisoning don't make excuses, Zolo himself makes no excuse so the fandom shouldn't either. The fight was a win anyways, but it just goes to show you the lack of endurance that swordsmen have compared to brawlers when all it takes is 1 clean hit on eachother for the fight to end.
Physical Strength - There's no separating Haki & physical strength, they are innately tied to each other and balance each other out. I'm reading through 1012 and Kaido doesn't send Luffy flying when Luffy tried kicking Kaido's club, Luffy just jumps back. In 1013 Kaido fails to overpower Luffy's CoC punch, and then moments later they clash equally. Either Luffy's Advanced CoC is above Hybrid Kaido's, or his Physical Strength is above Kaido's, but the most likely answer is that neither are true and Hybrid Kaido & Base Luffy's Physical Strength and Adv. CoC are simply equal to each other.
Zolo was able to overpower Hybrid Kaido only once, and that was when Kaido wasn't using Adv. CoC where Zolo was in his final, strongest form. So yes, Zolo can situationally overpower Kaido but that's assuming Kaido isn't using Adv. CoC and Zolo is in his best form.
Durability - Imagine whining about Luffy having a DF as if every admiral and majority of top-tiers don't use devil fruits, his fighting style is intertwined with his DF you can't seperate them and complain. It's foolish, perhaps I should pick at Zolo's durability only being high because he uses swords to defend himself, but no I would not make that argument because it's a disrespect to the character's fighting style and being. And no Luffy's durability being higher also means his endurance is higher, Zolo could barely endure Hakai for a few seconds before having 20-30 of his bones shattered, Zolo literally getting carried around right now wrapped up like a burrito
DC argument - Show me Zolo "casually" slicing mountains, the one time he cut a mountain he needed Orlumbus' help and even then he made sure to give a nice long speech to-go. A truly impressive cut would be Law cutting not one mountain like Zolo, but an entire mountain RANGE without breaking a sweat.
And no Pica is not small-island size quit the BS, this has been debunked, Ussop was using hyperbole
Pica's golem is hardly bigger in mass than the Flower Hill which isn't island size whatsoever, perhaps a small town-size at most.
Noah on the other hand? About half the size of Fishman island, which still puts it at around small Island level where Pica is only about as big as the average mountain. Luffy still wins.
Range - He didn't cut across Onigashima, only across the skull of Onigashima which might I add isn't even that big. Onigashima is a tiny island that would only make up a small fraction of all of Wano.
Honestly looks to be about a mile in length, whereas MirroWorld actually extends all across Totto Land, the Mirroworld is actually hundreds and hundreds of miles in length from what we have seen.
Zolo has ranged attacks but it isn't his style, Luffy however can go into Snakeman mode and consistently spam high-speed, homing CoO pythons from across the board, when Zolo fights from afar it's usually an attack or two yet Luffy has an entire mode who's fighting style is ranged.
CoA - Zolo's armament is worse than Luffy's, throughout the majority of the Rooftop fight, Kaido instantly shrugged off any attacks Zolo threw at him just like he shrugged off all the Scabbard's attacks, the only one doing any damage most of the time was Luffy who was able to actually stun Kaido for several panels and was dealing damage internal damage to his organs. The only time Zolo did any significant damage was when he used Asura, which even still wasn't that impressive as the cut it left was rather small and did not hit any vital areas.
Kaido immedietly went to equaling base Luffy 1v1 without issue after he took Zolo's attack.
CoC - Goes without saying, Luffy can spam CoC attacks Zolo can only use it once in extreme conditions.
So yeah your arguments were weak Luffy still craps on Zolo in every category
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“When the foolish one speaks, do not reply to him, for better than a response (to him) is silence, and if you speak to him you have aided him, and if you left him (with no reply) in extreme sadness he dies.” If this was a argument about something debatable then have at it, but you are literally discussing whether or not the protagonist of a action Shonen manga is stronger than a secondary main character who's also his subordinate with a dream lesser than his, as stated explicitly by Mihawk himself all the way back since the beginning of the story.
"secondary main character" you're talking like Zoro didn't appear ep1 in the anime or chapter 3 or the manga, or as they weren't shown equal in whiskey peak, every interaction he had with a main villain ever was in favor of Zoro feat wise and reaction wise ( except enel which Luffy struggled to defeat even tho he was his natural enemy ), Mihawk argument was that PK is harder than WSS, because PK literally needs a high tier Crew gathering ponegliffs and stuff. Atleast Zoro fans unlike other fans have alot of right predictions like CoC or him injuring Kaido unlike the other fans who only base their shit around headcanon.