Is Pan D. A Man Moe?


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Queen would demolish Doffy if it were just about physicals.

But think of the abilities and the HAX.

How tf is Queen going to deal with awakening, overheat, and parasite?
He can't fly like Bondman and he's not even in the ballpark speed-wise.

Queen's hybrid/awakened forms might prove this analysis wrong, but I doubt it.
You realize we didn't see alot of what Queen can do yet right? So far he has Pague rounds, Zoan +mechnical body, Can inhance his bite with Metal rounds. He going to be able to do way more.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

He overpowered Doffy in a close combat, both just using their strenght and haki and Doffy lose that clash against fucking Dressrosa BASE Luffy.
Compare that shit with Cracker vs a stronger Luffy version.



Can you pls stop with this bs, Law and Luffy never fought 2vs1, it was rather Doffy who always fought Law with help.
It is easy to beat a hell nerfed character. Fresh Luffy+Fresh Law vs Doflamingo, Mingo would get asskicked.
Current Law>Doflamingo



Big mom would solo Doffy+whole crew and then would beat Luffy and Law.
Doffy is a clown who get matched by base Luffy with basic CoA.



As you said, one round was enough.
Doffy survive the first round only because of his plot armor, if the people wouldn´t waste Luffy time via speaking to him, he would hit Doffy for sure and the game would be over in the first round. But ofc Oda want make it dramatic, he stall Luffy and didn´t give him his final punch, so it didn´t end in first round.
One round in DR where enough to beat Doffy.

This guy is at full headcanon because none of his point coming true.
I don't understand how the guy can read Base luffy's fight with basic COA and basic CoO, physical strength in BASE inferior to his current version that he physically trained in UDON, and say that doflamingo is a top tier, when a luffy that was already colliding with Doflamingo on an equal footing and winning confrontations in strength and drawing a lot of blood in his punches in Doflamingo, even if Doflamingo is getting dressed, of higher level? As Luffy Dr with COA, basic CoO = current Luffy after defeating 2 Yonkou commanders (Kata, Cracker), training in Udon, physically evolving and getting COA and FS and receiving this treatment from KAIDO:


G4 luffy after defeating two YONKOUS commanders, and with FS and in his strongest form.
Received this treatment:




I wonder if it was BASE luffy with basic COA and BASIC CoO, which was exactly like DOFLAMINGO, the famous top level, what would it be like? Stronger versions of Luffy himself that are superior to his DR version, received NEG DIFF treatment. Doflamingo is going to NEG NEG NEG DIFF.​
 
Big Mom was disappointed with Luffy being "all talk like all the others" when he didn't get past Cracker.

All your arguments are pure nonsense.
What??

Bro you literally agreed with me in an earlier message that Whitebeard’s attack was a suicide mission. Commander being dispatched against admirals in that situation is so obviously different from Cracker being dispatched against Luffy.

You’re just being disingenuous.
 
What??

Bro you literally agreed with me in an earlier message that Whitebeard’s attack was a suicide mission. Commander being dispatched against admirals in that situation is so obviously different from Cracker being dispatched against Luffy.

You’re just being disingenuous.
I said a suicide mission for Whitebeard, not his fucking commanders. He didn't plan on them dying. How is Marco sending Vista after Mihawk a fucking suicide mission? or King going after BM?
 
We saw through character dynamics and bounty that Queen > Jack. It has nothing to do with Name.

Whereas character dynamics of King and Queen are as rivals who think they’re each the top of the Beast pirates.
They are not rivals, they just bully each other
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Yes Queen is stronger than Jack but bounties don’t say who’s stronger. Yes of course a weak person wouldn’t get a high bounty but there are other things which influence your bounty like lineage and violence. Queen has a higher bounty than Katakuri but it doesn’t mean that Katakuri is weaker.
 
At this point you can't read, and don't understand what the Shichibukai are. Doffy was 2nd strongest Shichibukai after Mihawk.

Jinbe was weaker than Luffy and Law and he can fight Big Mom solo

Big meme is a weird character to power scale, she is clumsy and that allows characters much weaker than her to clown her around, but at the end of the day she only does that because she can afford to be clumsy, its not like she took any damage from that or any other atack soo far for that matter, its easy to say her durability is greater than Kaido's.
:kayneshrug:
But doffy aint a weakling either, Oda confirmed in a SBS that Doffy was supposed to be on wano innitialy instead of big meme and he would be kaido's strongest subordinate/ally, his crew dinamic also being based on cards and he being called "joker" pretty much confirms it.
 
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