Is Pan D. A Man Moe?


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Big meme is a weird character to power scale, she is clumsy and that allows characters much weaker than her to clown her around, but at the end of the day she only does that because she can afford to be clumsy, its not like she took any damage from that or any other atack soo far for that matter, its easy to say her durability is greater than Kaido's.
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But doffy aint a weakling either, Oda confirmed in a SBS that Doffy was supposed to be on wano innitialy instead of big meme and he would be kaido's strongest subordinate/ally, his crew dinamic also being based on cards pretty much confirms it.
I bet she smells so bad.
Like a granny wearing diapers with a musty ass stank sweat after not showering for several months
 
But doffy aint a weakling either, Oda confirmed in a SBS that Doffy was supposed to be on wano innitialy instead of big meme and he would be kaido's strongest subordinate/ally, his crew dinamic also being based on cards pretty much confirms it.
This is key. Some here are trying to say Doffy would be irrelevant in Wano because a few weeks passed by. Like what the actual fuck?

Oda literally said the opposite in the last SBS :milaugh::milaugh:
 
Yonko wankers right now

"Sanji is 10x stronger. 20x. Law is 60 times stronger. Ennies Lobby. They all got 100 times stronger."



Brah. Chopper hasn't learned Haki yet, and he bitchslapped the fuck out of Queen.
Chopper literally says his attacks ain't doing much and Queen literally said he was playing with Sanji. Its already stated in the manga the SH get stronger from island to island. These are manga facts
 
They are not rivals, they just bully each other
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Yes Queen is stronger than Jack but bounties don’t say who’s stronger. Yes of course a weak person wouldn’t get a high bounty but there are other things which influence your bounty like lineage and violence. Queen has a higher bounty than Katakuri but it doesn’t mean that Katakuri is weaker.
Within enemy crews, it’s not unfair to assume higher bounty, this character is designed to be portrayed stronger than others. Close bounty these characters are designed to be portrayed near one another.

Katakuri and Queen are in separate crews so of course you can’t compare them based on bounty

How are they not rivals if both believe they’re strongest?
 
Okay you said it since the beginning but other Sanji fans didn’t.
The Beast Pirates are card themed, Kings rank higher that Queens.
The Beast Pirates hierarchy is defined by strength, it’s only logical that King is stronger.
Regarding the feats, yes we saw more of Queen but it doesn’t mean that Queen is stronger?! Wait until we see Kings fight.
It’s not King >> Queen or King >= Queen.
It’s simply King > Queen > Jack
Alot of people said it, including Sanji fans. You just started to see it, because Sanji isn't fighting King so you use it to bash on them.

Yes, the BP are based on strength, but that goes for the ranks itself.
All Star > Flying Six > Headliner > Gifter > Pleasure > Fodder.
But not for inside each of the ranks. There is no ranking in the Flying Six itself, even if some are stronger than other.
Every All Star has the same authority. Same goes for the flying six. There is no indication who is stronger than who.
The only confirmed strength rank we got is King and Queen > Jack. King and Queen were introduced to us as equals.
The card them doesn't always go King > Queen > Jack. Some card games have Queen as the strongest card.

Good that we have to wait for Kings fight to see what he can do, but to say he is stronger than Queen because you assume he will have better feats than him is stupid. Right now his feats are worse than Queens.
 
Within enemy crews, it’s not unfair to assume higher bounty, this character is designed to be portrayed stronger than others. Close bounty these characters are designed to be portrayed near one another.

Katakuri and Queen are in separate crews so of course you can’t compare them based on bounty

How are they not rivals if both believe they’re strongest?
Did they say something like that? I can’t remember Queen saying he’s the strongest
 
Chopper literally says his attacks ain't doing much and Queen literally said he was playing with Sanji. Its already stated in the manga the SH get stronger from island to island. These are manga facts
Mate, he drew blood out of Queen without knowing basic Haki. Why does Sanji need to get 5 or 10 times stronger to hurt Queen?

Oda gave Sanji a MAJOR powerup: the Raid Suit. Now Yonko wankers trying to pretend his base level also shot way up for no reason, when he was struggling a week ago in Whole Cake Island against randoms.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Yeah, Sanji against Queen used the real DJ, against Doffy it was the fake one. Stop being pathetic.

Sanji is stronger because of RS. That's the only powerup he got.
This is the issue with Sanji fans...
The moment they start hyping Sanji up, they end up claiming that Sanji is stronger than all kinds of ppl... :josad:

That's not how it works bois... You have to take match-up into consideration and play out in your head what can happen between the two combatants... How do you expect RS to change anything regarding Sanji vs Doffy? Being invisible can do what G4 couldn't? Remove parasite from Doffy's arsenal as that is pointless plot device. How does Sanji deal with other abilities that Doffy has?

He often puts up spider's web for opponents to get trapped in them just like he did with Sanji last time... How will he break free?
How will he deal with Awakening? How will he deal with binding stuff Flap Thread or whatever? How will he deal with Overheat?
How will he break through the spiders web that was put up against KKG? What firepower does Sanji have to affect Doffy when his DJ couldnt affect hakiless Doffy? Doffy's endurance is close to that of Ancient Zoans, do you realize how many hits that takes for Sanji?
Try to make it plausible. Go!
 

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They will fight but like I said I don't expect Kaido to be as violent as he is against the alliance fighters.
Agin6, Kaido may look like a douche but it's still his daughter, he has some kind of love for her
  1. Kaido beat her to a pulp in the past. So much so that she wishes to pay him back.
  2. You can be exceptionally violent to someone without killing them.
    1. Kaido did not kill anyone in the alliance.
  3. Kaido was willing to kill her if she defied his orders and left Onigashima, so his love for her is far from unconditional.


he could do it minutes if he wanted to
Or you're simply underestimating how strong she is.

Yamato should be >= Ace with 2 years of growth.

Base Yamato was equal to all out Ace. She likely has a Mythical Zoan DF as well.


I think that Kaido needs to beat Yamato to a pulp. Yamato is the only major figure of the alliance that doesn't believe that Luffy can beat Kaido.

Like not that she thinks Luffy might lose, she doesn't actually think Luffy can win. A prospective Nakama, and she has no faith in the man she'll call Captain.

When she heard that Luffy was fighting Kaido in a 1 vs 1, her response was: "I need to hurry":


Contrast how Zoro and Sanji said that Luffy will definitely win:


In this chapter, even Law placed his trust in Luffy to win.


We need a development where Yamato places her trust in Luffy to defeat her Father.

We need a moment like this:



Luffy saving Yamato when she's at her wits end in her fight vs Kaido could be the impetus. Kind of like with Law:




If Kaido never beats Yamato down, if she's never at her wits end, she's never going to trust in Luffy to prevail in a one on one.

Yamato isn't fighting Kaido for Luffy but herself. If Luffy shows up and Yamato is healthy, she's not going to leave Kaido to Luffy. She has a very strong personal conflict with Kaido.

  • Yamato did not say that she is fighting Kaido to help the alliance.
  • Yamato did not say that she is fighting Kaido to stall for Luffy.
  • Yamato did not say that she is fighting Kaido to open the borders of Wano.
  • Yamato did not say that she is fighting Kaido to fulfil Oden's will.
  • Yamato did not say that she is fighting Kaido because she's Kozuki Oden.

Yamato is fighting Kaido to sever the bond that binds them. She's fighting Kaido to escape from Kaido's control and dominance over her life. She's fighting for her freedom.

Yamato's confrontation with Kaido here is deeply personal. It's the most important battle of her life.

Until she gives up or is defeated, no one — and I mean no one, not even Luffy — has a place in that battle.

Oda stalled Yamato from reaching the Rooftop until after Luffy was defeated. If Yamato was to fight Kaido with someone, it would have been with Luffy.

She may do that in a subsequent round, but this battle in particular is for her.

She'll see it through on her own.


Yamato needs something that would make her abandon trying to defeat her Father and trust in Luffy. She hasn't gotten that yet.
 
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