General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Rootbeer]

This chapter has thought me 2 important things..

First is, to give an oppotunity to Carrot fans before its too late, i'm lending you my hand to get out of this with dignity. See @Paperchampion23 is a smart and wise man, he knew when he saw how things were turning out that Carrot for nakama is just a sinking ship. You don't want to end up like in the same predicament than those few '' Sanji vs King '' supporters being laughed at for the rest of your days. It takes strenght to accept your wrongs, seize this way out now while you still can, grab my hand!

Second, that Carrot is more irrelevant than Law's crew.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

This chapter has thought me 2 important things..

First is, to give an oppotunity to Carrot fans before its too late, i'm lending you my hand to get out of this with dignity. See @Paperchampion23 is a smart and wise man, he knew when he saw how things were turning out that Carrot for nakama is just a sinking ship. You don't want to end up like in the same predicament than those few '' Sanji vs King '' supporters being laughed at for the rest of your days. It takes strenght to accept your wrongs, seize this way out now while you still can, grab my hand!

Second, that Carrot is more irrelevant than Law's crew.

Damn you didn’t have to put her under Law’s crew man. I mean you’re right, but you’re out of line lol.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

Luffy hardly had much of a relationship with Franky. Franky himself was far, far closer to Usopp and Robin than he ever was with Luffy. The only actual bonding moment they had before his joining was Luffy putting his faith in Franky to get back Robin. And Carrot already has something of equal value.

Spoiler

After saving her from Katakuri he put his faith in her, calling out her name specifically in the same breath as the rest of his crew to keep things under control without him.

Also a relationship is more than just a one way thing. Yamao may fantasise about Luffy, but Luffy doesn't particularly care about her or see her as anything more than a strong ally. If Luffy had to pick either Carrot or Yamao to join his crew it would be a no brainer that he'd pick Carrot. She's been travelling and living with him and other straw hats for weeks and they went through WCI together. She's his actual friend, as opposed to a random person who just burst out of nowhere and is saying weird shit about Oden.

Sorry but thats not equal value

 

[dizzy2341]

Sorry but thats not equal value

Sorry but this post is completely worthless

If you have something to actually say then say it otherwise don't bother quoting me. Simply saying "I don't agree" is totally meaningless.

 

[Cinera]

Also a relationship is more than just a one way thing. Yamao may fantasise about Luffy, but Luffy doesn't particularly care about her or see her as anything more than a strong ally. If Luffy had to pick either Carrot or Yamao to join his crew it would be a no brainer that he'd pick Carrot. She's been travelling and living with him and other straw hats for weeks and they went through WCI together. She's his actual friend, as opposed to a random person who just burst out of nowhere and is saying weird shit about Oden.

Sorry but this post is completely worthless

If you have something to actually say then say it otherwise don't bother quoting me. Simply saying "I don't agree" is totally meaningless.

Yamato has had much more on panel interactions with Luffy than Carrot has.

She saved Luffy from Ulti:

They fought:

She told Luffy her life story:

They listened to Kaido's speech together.

Luffy removed her cuffs:

Luffy also entrusted the protection of Momonosuke to her (and her alone):

There's the elephant in the room that she actually asked to join the crew:

Upcoming:

1. Luffy is going to save her from Kaido.
2. She may fight Kaido together with Luffy.
3. They could bond through battle.
4. In the aftermath of the battle, they might bond over how important Ace was to them.

I don't know, it feels like you're setting yourself up for disappointment by denying Yamato's candidacy and claiming that Luffy will invite Carrot over her. Not only do Yamato and Luffy have a much more developed relationship on panel, Yamato has actually asked to join the Strawhat Pirates; Carrot has not.

 

[Raughtale]

Luffy already trusted Yamato with something as valuable as Momo's life and as far as the time they know each other goes you can refer to how the manga feels about that kind of thing.

 

[dizzy2341]

Yamato has had much more on panel interactions with Luffy than Carrot has.

That's not the point I was making, (nor is it even true), but that's besides the point.

I don't know, it feels like you're doing setting yourself up for disappointment by denying Yamato's candidacy and claiming that Luffy will invite Carrot over her.

Please read what I'm saying a bit closer. I didn't say Luffy is going to invite Carrot to join the crew, since I don't even think that's what's going to happen. If there was a hypothetical scenario where there was both Carrot and Yamao asking Luffy to join the crew, then at this point in the story it's not even a question that Luffy would pick Carrot. I struggle to see how someone could deny that.

The point of this was to emphasise as of chapter 1015 Luffy would care more about Carrot than Yamao. There's no single moment in which Luffy is shown to see Yamao as anything more than a strong ally. You talk about how much Yamao loves Luffy, but show me when Luffy actually reciprocates any of the feelings?

Taking off her handcuffs, telling her to look after Momo are all just standard things for Luffy's character. If any innocent person was chained up against their will and asked Luffy to take off their handcuffs then he would do it. That's just who he is. It doesn't mean that person is anything more than a stranger to him. There's zero narrative context that would give this moment extra weight since Yamao literally just burst out of nowhere and we didn't know anything about her prior.

Not only do Yamato and Luffy have a much more developed relationship on panel, Yamato has actually asked to join the Strawhat Pirates; Carrot has not.

Yamao asked to *ride on the straw hats ship...Something Carrot's been doing for the past 200 chapters. Congrats.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

Sorry but this post is completely worthless

If you have something to actually say then say it otherwise don't bother quoting me. Simply saying "I don't agree" is totally meaningless.

I dont care about what you say, i will quote who i want, get of your high horse.

I said that is not equal value, which is true. i didnt say i disagree, i simply pointed out a thing that is not true in your post. Learn the difference

 

[dizzy2341]

I dont care about what you say

You obviously do since you continue to quote my posts instead of simply ignoring them like a normal person that's uninterested.

But fine. If you'd rather be an irritating bug buzzing in people's ears, not really saying anything, just making noise, then don't be surprised if you get squashed like one.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

You obviously do since you continue to quote my posts instead of simply ignoring them like a normal person that's uninterested.

But fine. If you'd rather be an irritating bug buzzing in people's ears, not really saying anything, just making noise, then don't be surprised if you get squashed like one.

I quoted you for the first time i maybe weeks, so yes, i obviously care. I simply pointed out a wrong constatation of you, your whole point is based on it, so it kinda matters if its true or not

 

[Rootbeer]

Luffy hardly had much of a relationship with Franky. Franky himself was far, far closer to Usopp and Robin than he ever was with Luffy. The only actual bonding moment they had before his joining was Luffy putting his faith in Franky to get back Robin. And Carrot already has something of equal value.

Carrot's relationship with Chopper and Nami doesn't even come close to the one Franky has with Usopp or even Robin.
Chopper and Nami bond with Carrot is negligible.

Also a relationship is more than just a one way thing.

Yeah a relationship is also more than saying someone's name once too.

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I quoted you for the first time i maybe weeks, so yes, i obviously care. I simply pointed out a wrong constatation of you, your whole point is based on it, so it kinda matters if its true or not

You told him straight and with few words, that's what you get.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

You told him straight and with few words, that's what you get.

He knows hes wrong, but thats the only thing he has, so he gets defensive and protects it. I dont blame him, if i was so much of a fan id probably do the same

 

[Rootbeer]

He knows hes wrong, but thats the only thing he has, so he gets defensive and protects it. I dont blame him, if i was so much of a fan id probably do the same

Oh don't worry i know too that he knows he's wrong. Its unhealthy

 

[Sheer D. Lusion]

It could easily be a reference to meeting another pirate like Roger who was a D. We’ve already seen some of Odens journal, one part says that there will be a large group of pirates who will arrive at Wano and beat Kaido.

If Yamato is joining she’s not going to be knowing all these spoilers, it will severely water down the actual discovery.

if if is revealed in this arc it will not be a spoiler

 

[dizzy2341]

And yet again the conversation is about me instead of the topic. I'm really nothing special yet some Yamao stans just can't stop obsessing over me. A restraining order was already required to handle one of you. Do we really have to do it all again?

Like honestly if I irritate you that much or you don't care what I have to say, there's literally an ignore button for that exact purpose. Click it. I will thank you for it.

The number of Yamao backers actually worth discussing with you can literally count on one hand. And they know who they are. I'll only talk to them, so why don't you do the same with Carrot supporters? Or is this really your idea of entertainment? Slinging shit at others on a manga forum because they don't agree with your opinions?

 

[Rootbeer]

And yet again the conversation is about me instead of the topic. I'm really nothing special yet some Yamao stans just can't stop obsessing over me. A restraining order was already required to handle one of you. Do we really have to do it all again?

Like honestly if I irritate you that much or you don't care what I have to say, there's literally an ignore button for that exact purpose. Click it. I will thank you for it.

The number of Yamao backers actually worth discussing with you can literally count on one hand. And they know who they are. I'll only talk to them, so why don't you do the same with Carrot supporters? Or is this really your idea of entertainment? Slinging shit at others on a manga forum because they don't agree with your opinions?

Cause we know you're a fake ass...

 

[dizzy2341]

Cause we know you're a fake ass...

Shit slinging on the manga forum it is. That's what makes you happy, that's what you're here for. Well at least you're explicit about it, just like the other one. Either way, that's not my problem to deal with. I asked nicely... restraining order next since you just can't help yourself.

 

[Rootbeer]

Shit slinging on the manga forum it is. That's what makes you happy, that's what you're here for. Well at least you're explicit about it, just like the other one. Either way, that's not my problem to deal with. I asked nicely... restraining order next since you just can't help yourself.

PLease restrain me daddy, ain't going to increase Carrot's chances of joining. Carrot fans may not respect Oda and his One Piece story, but Oda respect himself. THat massively underdeveloped Rabbit ain't joining.

All the Strawhats mentors and dear friends to their heart are looking at youright now saying , ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU?

 

[This_Guy]

I'm not going to join in the shit slinging.

Carrot does lack the necessary development that would make her a narratively appealing character.

Everything is at a surface level with no indication from Oda to add such depth.

There's no denying she's coming back at some point. But how prevalent of a role she plays then is make it or break it to make her a deeper character.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I'm not going to join in the shit slinging.

Carrot does lack the necessary development that would make her a narratively appealing character.

Everything is at a surface level with no indication from Oda to add such depth.

There's no denying she's coming back at some point. But how prevalent of a role she plays then is make it or break it to make her a deeper character.

It’s not Carrot herself that’s the problem in this thread