General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[This_Guy]

It’s not Carrot herself that’s the problem in this thread

Yeah I get it. There's some supporters who'll go ride or die that it gets ridiculous.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

And yet again the conversation is about me instead of the topic. I'm really nothing special yet some Yamao stans just can't stop obsessing over me. A restraining order was already required to handle one of you. Do we really have to do it all again?

Like honestly if I irritate you that much or you don't care what I have to say, there's literally an ignore button for that exact purpose. Click it. I will thank you for it.

The number of Yamao backers actually worth discussing with you can literally count on one hand. And they know who they are. I'll only talk to them, so why don't you do the same with Carrot supporters? Or is this really your idea of entertainment? Slinging shit at others on a manga forum because they don't agree with your opinions?

Wait, isnt the point of this thread to argue about potential nakama? But you, when you get called out on your weak argument, turn to talking smack and acting all superior. Yeah, Yamao stans are all obsessed with you, they even DON'T have their daily skype meetings where they discuss you throughout. But its ok, i understand you, Oda writes a cruel world that has no mercy for many of the people favorite characters. So you get touchy sometimes, it accumulates over chapters and chapters of Oda ignoring your needs. Know we are all here for you, you dont have to come and stir up things for attention, its enough if you just talk to people normally.

Anyway i wont quote you anymore dont worry. If you close your eyes you wont see the light, even if there is a million suns out there. Keep writing your little carrot theories, i will just skip past them. I know they come from a desperate man

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Wait, isnt the point of this thread to argue about potential nakama? But you, when you get called out on your weak argument, turn to talking smack and acting all superior. Yeah, Yamao stans are all obsessed with you, they even have their daily skype meetings where they discuss you throughout. But its ok, i understand you, Oda writes a cruel world that has no mercy for many of the people favorite characters. So you get touchy sometimes, it accumulates over chapters and chapters of Oda ignoring your needs. Know we are all here for you, you dont have to come and stir up things for attention, its enough if you just talk to people normally.

Anyway i wont quote you anymore dont worry. If you close your eyes you wont see the light, even if there is a million suns out there. Keep writing your little carrot theories, i will just skip past them. I know they come from a desperate man

Bro first rule of secret Yamato Skype meetings is we’re not supposed to talk about the secret Yamato Skype meetings.

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

Bro first rule of secret Yamato Skype meetings is we’re not supposed to talk about the secret Yamato Skype meetings.

Wait, no one told me. Hang on, need to edit a post

 

[This_Guy]

It's too late.

You've exposed too much already..

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

 

[Ravagerblade]

Look guys the sarcasm is funny and all, but remember first rule about Yamato club is don't talk about Yamato Club.

 

[Electricmastro]

I'm not going to join in the shit slinging.

Carrot does lack the necessary development that would make her a narratively appealing character.

Everything is at a surface level with no indication from Oda to add such depth.

There's no denying she's coming back at some point. But how prevalent of a role she plays then is make it or break it to make her a deeper character.

Oda basically set up multiple chances for Jack, Brûlée, or Perospero to trap her and have Luffy free her, but didn’t amount to that.

 

[Roo]

if if is revealed in this arc it will not be a spoiler

Dude you don't get it? The secret of the D clan is something exclusively known in Laugh Tale, the Oden flashback specifically stated that the secrets of the world government, the d name and the void century are all tied together

That stuff won't be revealed now because this is not the arc for it, Yamato did not imply she knew and the Oden flashback was basically Oda's way of preparing us for the huge Joy Boy flashback.

 

[Davidsuxx]

carrot fans may not respect Oda and his One Piece story, but Oda respect himself.

I don’t get why this thread always has to turn into “Carrot fans are delusional” over our interpretation of a question that has no definite answer yet

 

[Rushwheel]

It also begs to ask, why give Law a new dream?

It's not really a "new" dream tho,

Spoiler: a wall of text not about Carrot or Yamato lmao

but rather a confirmation for those who paid attention and already suspected since Dressrosa (Law's fb with Cora telling him the D is important, Law screaming at Sengoku he still doesn't know if this is how Cora-san wanted for him to live as a D he again knows nothing about, etc.) what Law is going to do after Kaido will be defeated. To learn about the D. I also have a feeling after he learns the story of his clan Law's next goal is going to be to take down the WG. The already has a strong reason to want to do it actually, but Oda hasn't brought up the topic since Law's conversation with Cora when Cora-san lied about him being a marine. Oda keeps it for later when the time comes I suppose. So it's going to be like: take down Doffy(done) >>take down Kaido+ find the poneglyphs>>> to learn the secret of the D clan (the reason why he is still alive despite everything, basically. the poor guy still doesn't know why there is always someone appears in his life to keep him alive) >>>take down the WG. Pretty much correlates with the route the Straw hats are about to take imo. So I'm sure he'll stick round till the end.

 

[Roo]

It's not really a "new" dream tho,

Spoiler: a wall of text not about Carrot or Yamato lmao

but rather a confirmation for those who paid attention and already suspected since Dressrosa (Law's fb with Cora telling him the D is important, Law screaming at Sengoku he still doesn't know if this is how Cora-san wanted for him to live as a D he again knows nothing about, etc.) what Law is going to do after Kaido will be defeated. To learn about the D. I also have a feeling after he learns the story of his clan Law's next goal is going to be to take down the WG. The already has a strong reason to want to do it actually, but Oda hasn't brought up the topic since Law's conversation with Cora when Cora-san lied about him being a marine. Oda keeps it for later when the time comes I suppose. So it's going to be like: take down Doffy(done) >>take down Kaido+ find the poneglyphs>>> to learn the secret of the D clan (the reason why he is still alive despite everything, basically. the poor guy still doesn't know why there is always someone appears in his life to keep him alive) >>> to take down the WG. Pretty much correlates with the route the Straw hats are about to take imo. So I'm sure he'll stick round till the end.

It is new in a sense that as far we knew Law gave up on caring about the D name when Sengoku told him not to sully Corazon's sacrifice

But yeah I agree with the rest of the post. Oda didn't have to include chapter 996 if he wanted to separate Law from the Straw Hats. He just could've kept the same vague pirate king dream and eventually ally himself again with Luffy due to his grudge for the WG

 

[Rushwheel]

It is new in a sense that as far we knew Law gave up on caring about the D name when Sengoku told him not to sully Corazon's sacrifice

The point of that conversation with Sengoku was for Law to finally stop thinking that Cora saved him for some practical/selfish reason and accept that he was loved (and deserve to be loved) and that love has nothing to do with his name. There was zero indication to think Law gave up on caring about the D in that scene, it has a different purpose.

 

[Rootbeer]

I don’t get why this thread always has to turn into “Carrot fans are delusional” over our interpretation of a question that has no definite answer yet

It has no definite answer but the Subject at hand matters A LOT. If the One Piece's journey had a profound impact on you and tremendously touched your soul, you can't have anyone join the Strawhats. It goes against everything the artist has created with such passion and the precious vision he tried to convey over the last decades. The man has put his life in this story, a tale so memorable that it will live on long after his death and have shaped many generations. He's changing the world, he wants to make people dream by building the best adventure ever. Don't you get it?

You can't have a character with a 2 panel flashback join the main crew. I don't have a problem about her flashback happening in the present, but that's not what happened. She has ZERO relationship with Pedro who is supposed to be the most important character for her. She was never central to the manga, just a single chapter where she had decent shine and significance with Sulong, nothing in the whole grand scheme of things. She was there for Pedro's death and NOT Pedro dying to progress Carrot's role. Until she receive real meaningful character development i will be on every Carrot fan's behind.

I repeat this thread is the most important thread on this forum and any One Piece topic on internet. The Strawhats are SACRED and One Piece isn't perfect.

 

[Davidsuxx]

It has no definite answer but the Subject at hand matters A LOT. If the One Piece's journey had a profound impact on you and tremendously touched your soul, you can't have anyone join the Strawhats. It goes against everything the artist has created with such passion and the precious vision he tried to convey over the last decades. The man has put his life in this story, a tale so memorable that it will live on long after his death and have shaped many generations. He's changing the world, he wants to make people dream by building the best adventure ever. Don't you get it?

You can't have a character with a 2 panel flashback join the main crew. I don't have a problem about her flashback happening in the present, but that's not what happened. She has ZERO relationship with Pedro who is supposed to be the most important character for her. She was never central to the manga, just a single chapter where she had decent shine and significance with Sulong, nothing in the whole grand scheme of things. She was there for Pedro's death and NOT Pedro dying to progress Carrot's role. Until she receive real meaningful character development i will be on every Carrot fan's behind.

I repeat this thread is the most important thread on this forum and any One Piece topic on internet. The Strawhats are SACRED and One Piece isn't perfect.

That’s fine but you need to remember that none of our opinions have any bearing on the outcome of the story. If you think Yamato is that perfect piece to complete the straw hat crew, great. i get why you feel that way, and I feel similarly (although apparently not as strongly) about Carrot, but insulting me or any other carrot fan isn’t gonna change our opinions.

If you think having a differing opinion on the next nakama is violating the “sanctity” of the SHs, then I don’t see why you’re in a thread meant for sharing opinions and interpretations... the whole reason I read this thread is because I want to read the arguments people have (and a handful of Yamato fans have slightly shifted my opinion on her, without personal attacks)

I agree that carrot hasn’t really been a central character, but I disagree on most of your other takes for reasons I’ve already said in this thread. I really cba to argue about carrot again until we see her in the manga again

 

[Rootbeer]

That’s fine but you need to remember that none of our opinions have any bearing on the outcome of the story. If you think Yamato is that perfect piece to complete the straw hat crew, great. i get why you feel that way, and I feel similarly (although apparently not as strongly) about Carrot, but insulting me or any other carrot fan isn’t gonna change our opinions.

If you think having a differing opinion on the next nakama is violating the “sanctity” of the SHs, then I don’t see why you’re in a thread meant for sharing opinions and interpretations... the whole reason I read this thread is because I want to read the arguments people have (and a handful of Yamato fans have slightly shifted my opinion on her, without personal attacks)

I agree that carrot hasn’t really been a central character, but I disagree on most of your other takes for reasons I’ve already said in this thread. I really cba to argue about carrot again until we see her in the manga again

I never expressed myself like that toward Yamato, far from it. She's lacking on many aspects, such as interaction with the crew, a dream, her role on the crew, Luffy having genuine interest in her and not being a one sided relationship with Yamato venting her life to Luffy, her weird Oden fetish. The last one has impending development coming, as her impersonating Oden stem from something deeper than his execution and her bible. Quick research on google told me that calling someone delusional isn't necessarly considered an insult. I'm just calling a spade a spade.


It's not having differing opinion that bothers me, its having an opinion that jeopardize the integrity of Oda's masterpiece the issue.
Carrot's character hasn't even remotely been explored to start to be compared on Strawhats level or other people like Vivi, Ace, Law, Gaimon, Boa, you name it... So many characters are objectively better than her, Bellamy comes to mind too, Bon Clay oh my god.. It's not hard to surpass Carrot's character, she barely empty, mostly stereotypes. SHe screams plus ultra side character.

How can you disagree that Pedro and Carrot's relationship is non existent? If she was a future Strawhat their bond would have been shown on panels.

 

[Davidsuxx]

I never expressed myself like that toward Yamato, far from it. She's lacking on many aspects, such as interaction with the crew, a dream, her role on the crew, Luffy having genuine interest in her and not being a one sided relationship with Yamato venting her life to Luffy, her weird Oden fetish. The last one has impending development coming, as her impersonating Oden stem from something deeper than his execution and her bible. Quick research on google told me that calling someone delusional isn't necessarly considered an insult. I'm just calling a spade a spade.


It's not having differing opinion that bothers me, its having an opinion that jeopardize the integrity of Oda's masterpiece the issue.
Carrot's character hasn't even remotely been explored to start to be compared on Strawhats level or other people like Vivi, Ace, Law, Gaimon, Boa, you name it... So many characters are objectively better than her, Bellamy comes to mind too, Bon Clay oh my god.. It's not hard to surpass Carrot's character, she barely empty, mostly stereotypes. SHe screams plus ultra side character.

How can you disagree that Pedro and Carrot's relationship is non existent? If she was a future Strawhat their bond would have been shown on panels.

nah, calling someone delusional is definitely an insult. You’re not “calling a spade a spade” because there’s no concrete answer yet, so any interpretation is valid.

how can our opinions jeopardize the integrity of the manga when they literally have no effect on it? That’s not logical. The only person who can jeopardize one piece is Oda.

 

[Fuckthis3]

This chapter has thought me 2 important things..

First is, to give an oppotunity to Carrot fans before its too late, i'm lending you my hand to get out of this with dignity. See @Paperchampion23 is a smart and wise man, he knew when he saw how things were turning out that Carrot for nakama is just a sinking ship. You don't want to end up like in the same predicament than those few '' Sanji vs King '' supporters being laughed at for the rest of your days. It takes strenght to accept your wrongs, seize this way out now while you still can, grab my hand!

Second, that Carrot is more irrelevant than Law's crew.

Carrot actually got 8+ panels in oni
Law crew got 2 lol

 

[vikas]

btw didn't Zeus officially kinda join SHs?

 

[Rootbeer]

nah, calling someone delusional is definitely an insult. You’re not “calling a spade a spade” because there’s no concrete answer yet, so any interpretation is valid.

how can our opinions jeopardize the integrity of the manga when they literally have no effect on it? That’s not logical. The only person who can jeopardize one piece is Oda.

I won't be taking your words for it..


By accepting to lower the higher character standards that Oda as established for the Strawhats which are at the core of his story, you're tarnishing Oda's work. In other words, you're pooping on Oda's legacy right now by rooting for Carrot. I don't like it and the author wouldn't either. Would you be fine if someone called One Piece trash continously?

Do they have no effect, some people are trying to use Carrot's popularity and marketing as an argument for her joining. Propaganda to its finest



Words hold influence

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Carrot actually got 8+ panels in oni
Law crew got 2 lol

Ok, i will give you that she's maybe a little bit more relevant than Law's crew.

btw didn't Zeus officially kinda join SHs?

You can't be serious.... And yet i don't have anything to reply against it..