General & Others The same manga says than Zoro has defeated Killer and Hawkins
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That's just them talking shit to each other, hell Luffy, law and kid do it all the time. Zoro saying the results would be the same without knowing how killer actually fight without the punishers. Killer saying he would kill Zoro with his original weapons is him taking Zoro's swordsmanship skills for granted. So, again just talking shit but we can agree that Zoro would win because of his endurance and physical strength trumps killer but not by alot. Killer still has other ways to kill Zoro by striking his vitals and he can do it too with his speed and agility.
First, stop acting like Killer knew or knows Zoro true power because he doesn't.
Second, Zoro didn't need to steal Killer's weapon to beat him. Zoro is a three sword style user that is skills in one and two sword style techniques. Zoro never used one or two sword style techniques against Killer. He only used two swords. There is a difference and he explained that near the beginning of the manga against the Cat brothers. The first time Zoro used any sword style techniques against Killer he destroyed and blitzed him.
Why did Zoro take Killer's weapon? It was to show us the difference between their physical strength and fighting/weapon skills. Zoro quickly adapted the scythe to his fighting style and used a name technique with it. Killer used the scythes longer but couldn't do the same.
Zoro beats Killer with 1, 2, or 3 swords. Pre or post enma.
Zoro beat Hawkins in their battle. It wasn't a long battle but it was still a battle.
The battle does show us the difference between the strength. Zoro at that time was several levels above Hawkins.
Zoro easily caused Hawkins a doll with a none name attack. Zoro defeated Hawkins' high level attack, remember he used that card to go beyond his level with the scarecrow, with one of his low level two sword style attacks.
Second, Zoro didn't need to steal Killer's weapon to beat him. Zoro is a three sword style user that is skills in one and two sword style techniques. Zoro never used one or two sword style techniques against Killer. He only used two swords. There is a difference and he explained that near the beginning of the manga against the Cat brothers. The first time Zoro used any sword style techniques against Killer he destroyed and blitzed him.
Why did Zoro take Killer's weapon? It was to show us the difference between their physical strength and fighting/weapon skills. Zoro quickly adapted the scythe to his fighting style and used a name technique with it. Killer used the scythes longer but couldn't do the same.
Zoro beats Killer with 1, 2, or 3 swords. Pre or post enma.
Zoro beat Hawkins in their battle. It wasn't a long battle but it was still a battle.
The battle does show us the difference between the strength. Zoro at that time was several levels above Hawkins.
Zoro easily caused Hawkins a doll with a none name attack. Zoro defeated Hawkins' high level attack, remember he used that card to go beyond his level with the scarecrow, with one of his low level two sword style attacks.
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You're making it too long, with his Punishers Killer would've severed Zoro's right arm clean off in that moment.
2 swords style for the rest of his life.
2 swords style for the rest of his life.
Well Oda confirmed through Killer's statement, and through things like Kama Sonic, that is complete bullshit. At least they don't try to claim that nonsense as much as they did before.
Neither does Zoro know everything about killer.
He did otherwise he wouldn't have beat him.
Irrelevant.
He did but killer hasn't use any.
So what? He stills uses two of his original swords as his main weapon compare to what killer has.
Killer didn't use any techniques and still manage to cause him to faint from the blood loss.
Physical strength? He is stronger but fighting/weapon skills they were pretty much equal.
Because that's not his main weapon of fighting.
If he could he would've done so earlier.
Nope he didn't win it was interpreted and halted cause Hawkins stop pursuing them.
Yeah Zoro is stronger nobody was disputing that.
I'll believe when I see it.
What incident are you talking about?
Where is the defeat? The only defeat I seen from Hawkins was from law.
He did otherwise he wouldn't have beat him.
Irrelevant.
He did but killer hasn't use any.
So what? He stills uses two of his original swords as his main weapon compare to what killer has.
Killer didn't use any techniques and still manage to cause him to faint from the blood loss.
Physical strength? He is stronger but fighting/weapon skills they were pretty much equal.
Because that's not his main weapon of fighting.
If he could he would've done so earlier.
Nope he didn't win it was interpreted and halted cause Hawkins stop pursuing them.
Yeah Zoro is stronger nobody was disputing that.
I'll believe when I see it.
What incident are you talking about?
Where is the defeat? The only defeat I seen from Hawkins was from law.
You're making it too long, with his Punishers Killer would've severed Zoro's right arm clean off in that moment.
2 swords style for the rest of his life.
2 swords style for the rest of his life.
If Zoro was fighting a stronger Killer that's giving him more problems then he would use his sword style techniques sooner or more often.
The one thing we've seen in Zoro's battles time and time again since post time skip is the amount of power and techniques he uses is determined by the strength of his opponent. He uses more power and techniques against stronger opponents.
They were in a draw, the alternative was keepin' that for hours. Gyukimaru intervention with a well armored Killer would've resulted in Zoro's death or amputation at least, that's a fact.
Even the Rengoku Onigiri wouldn't have closed the fight, Oda after making clear how Punishers are important for Killer showed us a technique on the same pace of with Rengoku Onigiri, which is Zanshu Claw.
That was his reintroduction, makin' his starting benchmark the techniqe Zoro used against him. If this doesn't speak for itself...
Killer puts the majority of Onigashima in a body bag in a 1v1, leaving the Emperors aside. Even his fellow R5 gotta run for that smoke. The sooner you realize it, the most you'll enjoy it.
Even the Rengoku Onigiri wouldn't have closed the fight, Oda after making clear how Punishers are important for Killer showed us a technique on the same pace of with Rengoku Onigiri, which is Zanshu Claw.
That was his reintroduction, makin' his starting benchmark the techniqe Zoro used against him. If this doesn't speak for itself...
Killer puts the majority of Onigashima in a body bag in a 1v1, leaving the Emperors aside. Even his fellow R5 gotta run for that smoke. The sooner you realize it, the most you'll enjoy it.
