Questions & Mysteries Dear Sanji fans..
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Sanji did better than Luffy most of the time, the thing is that Luffy gets beaten and comes back smarter, acknowledging his opponents powers, since Sanji said he understood about Doffy's powers, if they clashed again things would be much different.
We don't know how strong "Overhiito" is, but we know that Law could hold it with his sword.
How was Sanji "almost dying" to Doffy if he tanked "Goshikito" even better than Law and Luffy?
He didn't attacked first, otherwise he could just hit King straight away instead of rescuing Momonosuke, King was the one pissed off willing to kill.
Sanji didn't got knocked out, he got stunned at most, King vs Sanji is offscreened the time he hits the wall, we don't know what happened there, when King reappears side by side with Queen, we see Sanji getting up and returning to where everyone is. How is someone supposed to get knocked out and suddenly reappears like nothing happened, just chilling?
He never said that, he said the suit was durable cuz he thought it would break with the attack, and he used haki to protect himself most likely, just like he did throughout this whole arc. He felt how strong King's attack could potentially be.
Obviously if you get hit by an attack you can't avoid getting hit you will worry about the damage you may take, Luffy is the best example of that, Zoro almost killed himself in the rooftop willingly.
King kicked Sanji with his knee, it's pretty logical to think that he would defend himself with his knee too, not with the literal bottom of his foot.
There is nothing bad with it, if you understimate you opponent it's expected to get punished, it's the same thing with Zoro vs Killer, he not only didn't know how much strong Kamazou was but he just forgot he had that annoying samurai fighting him before.
Sanji chilling did more damage than a pissed Smoker free hitting Vergo with several haki blows, and Vergo acted like it was nothing, 2 Sanji's kicks made Vergo bleed and sent him flying hitting the wall, taking few seconds to recompose himself. Even after Sanji getting hurt he kept trading blows, Vergo left due to the gas
Sanji was willing to fight despite anything. Obviously he fucked up, which could make the fight more difficult, even then he didn't care about it or his leg for the whole arc.
Fodder Samurai Gyukimaru, Drake and Killer, all of them could block Zoro's basic slashes with ease, you know there is a big difference between an actual prepared attack and a random slash/kick, right?
King is a versatile fighter since his introduction, he isn't a pure swordsman, just like Katakuri isn't a damn spearsman but he DOES uses a SPEAR.
We don't know how strong "Overhiito" is, but we know that Law could hold it with his sword.
How was Sanji "almost dying" to Doffy if he tanked "Goshikito" even better than Law and Luffy?
He didn't attacked first, otherwise he could just hit King straight away instead of rescuing Momonosuke, King was the one pissed off willing to kill.
Sanji didn't got knocked out, he got stunned at most, King vs Sanji is offscreened the time he hits the wall, we don't know what happened there, when King reappears side by side with Queen, we see Sanji getting up and returning to where everyone is. How is someone supposed to get knocked out and suddenly reappears like nothing happened, just chilling?
He never said that, he said the suit was durable cuz he thought it would break with the attack, and he used haki to protect himself most likely, just like he did throughout this whole arc. He felt how strong King's attack could potentially be.
Obviously if you get hit by an attack you can't avoid getting hit you will worry about the damage you may take, Luffy is the best example of that, Zoro almost killed himself in the rooftop willingly.
King kicked Sanji with his knee, it's pretty logical to think that he would defend himself with his knee too, not with the literal bottom of his foot.
There is nothing bad with it, if you understimate you opponent it's expected to get punished, it's the same thing with Zoro vs Killer, he not only didn't know how much strong Kamazou was but he just forgot he had that annoying samurai fighting him before.
Sanji chilling did more damage than a pissed Smoker free hitting Vergo with several haki blows, and Vergo acted like it was nothing, 2 Sanji's kicks made Vergo bleed and sent him flying hitting the wall, taking few seconds to recompose himself. Even after Sanji getting hurt he kept trading blows, Vergo left due to the gas
Sanji was willing to fight despite anything. Obviously he fucked up, which could make the fight more difficult, even then he didn't care about it or his leg for the whole arc.
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Fodder Samurai Gyukimaru, Drake and Killer, all of them could block Zoro's basic slashes with ease, you know there is a big difference between an actual prepared attack and a random slash/kick, right?
King is a versatile fighter since his introduction, he isn't a pure swordsman, just like Katakuri isn't a damn spearsman but he DOES uses a SPEAR.
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Luffy tanked a lot of hits better than Sanji lmao
this is what happened when sanji fought doffy
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sanji was in a stance of attack as shown in the panel
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panels show that King is blocking with his leg while Sanji was attacking while he stretched and got overpowered in a kick contest.
what ? lmao after King threw Sanji like a trash he went to bring gifters while a lot of things happened started by big mom shits until luffy and Zoro met each other and you know that the panel shows that sanji just stood up while being confused not knowing what happened to momo lmao
sanji got trashed by Vergo while he didn't use CoA nor his bambo if sanji could deal with him in that state he wouldn't have said that in the panel i posted
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that's an angry / emotions boosted Sanji when he sees a woman crying who attacked Vergo gtfo with ur headcanon and excuses
Vergo went on a trolling mod while he didn't use his bambo which is main weapon and could crack Sanji's weapon ( leg ) easily lmao and all of sanji hits with DJ didn't do shit to him
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this is what happened when sanji fought doffy
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sanji was in a stance of attack as shown in the panel
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panels show that King is blocking with his leg while Sanji was attacking while he stretched and got overpowered in a kick contest.
what ? lmao after King threw Sanji like a trash he went to bring gifters while a lot of things happened started by big mom shits until luffy and Zoro met each other and you know that the panel shows that sanji just stood up while being confused not knowing what happened to momo lmao
sanji got trashed by Vergo while he didn't use CoA nor his bambo if sanji could deal with him in that state he wouldn't have said that in the panel i posted
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that's an angry / emotions boosted Sanji when he sees a woman crying who attacked Vergo gtfo with ur headcanon and excuses
Vergo went on a trolling mod while he didn't use his bambo which is main weapon and could crack Sanji's weapon ( leg ) easily lmao and all of sanji hits with DJ didn't do shit to him
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Zoro fans should be grateful to Sanji's existence, otherwise he would need to use Zoro against these main villains, to showcase not just Zoro's powers but also the enemies powers, thats what Oda did with Sanji against some of them, he made Sanji fuck up intentionally, like understimating his opponent or going to fight against an opponent that you have no clue about his powers, thats basicly Sanji stopping Doflamingo, but at the same time he impresses his opponent by how he manages to handle the situation even in disadvantage.
If Zoro fans don't base themselves with generic edgy badassery, they would no longer be Zoro fans
If Zoro fans don't base themselves with generic edgy badassery, they would no longer be Zoro fans
Honestly, a lot of Sanji matchups that ended up failed to materialize were just either just grasping at straws or reaching to begin with.
People argued hard that Sanji was gonna 1v1 katakuri, for the biggest reason that they were both meant to specialize in Observation Haki (don't know where that came from, even before Luffy getting Future Sight, Sanji's Observation Haki wasn't anything special and all three members of the Monster Trio showed to have them at the start of the time skip as early as the Fishman Island Arc). They ignored the devil fruit similarities between Luffy and katakuri. They also failed to realize the similar roles that both Luffy and Katakuri played during the WCI Arc: that being protectors of those dear to them. Luffy was trying to protect Sanji and the Vinsmokes from Big Mom's assassination, while Katakuri was trying to protect his siblings from invaders and a dangerous Luffy. They were also both gluttons.
Then come Wano, people argued for Sanji vs King, for the reasons that King can fly and produce flames just like Sanji. Yet they fail to realize that King is also the only swordsman of the Calamities and also the strongest after Kaido, a role that is also shared by Zoro in the Straw Hat crew. King can produce flames, Zoro can cut flames.
King being Sanji's opponent was never undisputed and exclusively his. Zoro had equal chances of being King's opponent if not more.
Sanji vs Queen was also a possibility with a high chance of happening. Both the third strongest, both smokers, both wear technology etc. So people shouldn't really feel like they got lied to, bamboozled or cat fished by Oda. The signs were there from the beginning.
And like what @Garp the Fist has already said, Queen identifying Sanji and wanting to take him out should've been a dead giveaway. King only had one clash with sanji and just told him to disappear. The Sanji vs King possibility ended right then and there imo.
People argued hard that Sanji was gonna 1v1 katakuri, for the biggest reason that they were both meant to specialize in Observation Haki (don't know where that came from, even before Luffy getting Future Sight, Sanji's Observation Haki wasn't anything special and all three members of the Monster Trio showed to have them at the start of the time skip as early as the Fishman Island Arc). They ignored the devil fruit similarities between Luffy and katakuri. They also failed to realize the similar roles that both Luffy and Katakuri played during the WCI Arc: that being protectors of those dear to them. Luffy was trying to protect Sanji and the Vinsmokes from Big Mom's assassination, while Katakuri was trying to protect his siblings from invaders and a dangerous Luffy. They were also both gluttons.
Then come Wano, people argued for Sanji vs King, for the reasons that King can fly and produce flames just like Sanji. Yet they fail to realize that King is also the only swordsman of the Calamities and also the strongest after Kaido, a role that is also shared by Zoro in the Straw Hat crew. King can produce flames, Zoro can cut flames.
King being Sanji's opponent was never undisputed and exclusively his. Zoro had equal chances of being King's opponent if not more.
Sanji vs Queen was also a possibility with a high chance of happening. Both the third strongest, both smokers, both wear technology etc. So people shouldn't really feel like they got lied to, bamboozled or cat fished by Oda. The signs were there from the beginning.
And like what @Garp the Fist has already said, Queen identifying Sanji and wanting to take him out should've been a dead giveaway. King only had one clash with sanji and just told him to disappear. The Sanji vs King possibility ended right then and there imo.
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Luffy tanked a lot of hits better than Sanji lmao
this is what happened when sanji fought doffy
this is what happened when sanji fought doffy
You damn liar
In the next panel he appears with the rest of the crew, there is no "King called Gifters", the Gifters were there since ever, you speak like King need to made a literal call for these Gifters to come. How is this supposed to be a knock out? He just got stunned, things not only got offscreened but we don't know much far they went after King hits the building. King's biggest effort in the whole raid was trying to take Sanji out, and he didn't achieved that.
Most likely yes, thats why he fcked up, he understimated his opponent, the Black Maria situation is similar.
You can clearly see the difference between this and now taking the decision of fighting Queen willingly.
Vergo went on a trolling mod while he didn't use his bambo which is main weapon and could crack Sanji's weapon ( leg ) easily lmao and all of sanji hits with DJ didn't do shit to him
Imagine hurting your leg after fkcing up and passing the whole arc like nothing happened, only considering it as a POSSIBLE drawback during the actual fight, which Vergo left first intentionally
Some Zoro fans consider Monet as a real threat, but shit on Sanji for getting hurt against Doffy's Right Hand and acting like it was nothing for the whole arc
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Sanji was going to do it willingly anyway, he even considered doing it for Zoro.
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1- he tanked Katakuri hits ; he tanked in base while having a weak haki awakening attacks with hardening
2- sanji got low diffed by Doffy in some seconds while laughing at him
3- Sanji vs Doffy who didn't use hardening :
Doffy vs Gear 2sd attacks :
Doffy needed to harden his coat .
ALL in ALL is Doffy low diffed Sanji easily
those gifters beside King u damn blind sanji tard wasn't even there and came with him
those are flying gifters never were shown there you damn liar they only appeared when King is shown with them
Manga :
- King vs Base sanji :
Sanji dying with a hole in his belly
- King vs RS Sanji :
overpowering him easily without using his sword in a kick contest and sending him to the building like a trash while he begged to let go and was shown confused only after big mom is out and King came with Gifters
i don't give a fuck about understimate this is an angry sanji who can travel through hell just to beat that one who kicked a woman but instead he got cracked 
and he wanted to fight Doffy and got low diffed
2- sanji got low diffed by Doffy in some seconds while laughing at him
3- Sanji vs Doffy who didn't use hardening :
Doffy vs Gear 2sd attacks :
Doffy needed to harden his coat .
ALL in ALL is Doffy low diffed Sanji easily
those gifters beside King u damn blind sanji tard wasn't even there and came with him
those are flying gifters never were shown there you damn liar
they only appeared when King is shown with them Manga :
- King vs Base sanji :
Sanji dying with a hole in his belly
- King vs RS Sanji :
overpowering him easily without using his sword in a kick contest and sending him to the building like a trash while he begged to let go and was shown confused only after big mom is out and King came with Gifters
i don't give a fuck about understimate this is an angry sanji who can travel through hell just to beat that one who kicked a woman
but instead he got cracked and he wanted to fight Doffy and got low diffed
Shitty swordman is not that strong. What moss head did is just some short attacks in a few seconds, not a serious fight one by one. Obviously, moss heard fans want him kill kaido. But no, what will happen is just:
1.After king and marco are tired, healed moss head will have a sneaky slash (like what he did to appo)
2 shitty swordman fans will masturbate: shitting swordman is god, one hit king, blah blah
3. while injured sanji will be 1 vs 2 (heathy queen and bigmom son)
1.After king and marco are tired, healed moss head will have a sneaky slash (like what he did to appo)
2 shitty swordman fans will masturbate: shitting swordman is god, one hit king, blah blah
3. while injured sanji will be 1 vs 2 (heathy queen and bigmom son)
he couldn't evade in time
Vergo was clashing with sanji while he hears what ceasar clown was saying
and this is sanji after ceasar saved him with that speech
Smoker sent Vergo flying a lot of times nothing special but sanji got a cracked bones from base Vergo
that's why sanji didn't fight afterwards
Zoro low diffed monet who could make luffy looking like a clown , Zoro mid diffed a bigger threat than fodder vergo , Zoro made an Admiral shiver and got pushed back while being under gravity who is bigger threat than doffy who low diffed sanji .
Zoro came to save Law from doffy , also Law came to save sanji from the same Villain
sanji stans should be grateful he is alive until today because of Zoro doing the work instead of having a dying sanji age ago
Vergo was clashing with sanji while he hears what ceasar clown was saying
and this is sanji after ceasar saved him with that speech
Smoker sent Vergo flying a lot of times nothing special but sanji got a cracked bones from base Vergo
that's why sanji didn't fight afterwards
Some Zoro fans consider Monet as a real threat, but shit on Sanji for getting hurt against Doffy's Right Hand and acting like it was nothing for the whole arc
Zoro came to save Law from doffy , also Law came to save sanji from the same Villain
sanji stans should be grateful he is alive until today because of Zoro doing the work instead of having a dying sanji age ago
1- he tanked Katakuri hits ; he tanked in base while having a weak haki awakening attacks with hardening
2- sanji got low diffed by Doffy in some seconds while laughing at him
3- Sanji vs Doffy who didn't use hardening :
Doffy vs Gear 2sd attacks :
Doffy needed to harden his coat .
ALL in ALL is Doffy low diffed Sanji easily
those gifters beside King u damn blind sanji tard wasn't even there and came with him
those are flying gifters never were shown there you damn liar they only appeared when King is shown with them
Manga :
- King vs Base sanji :
Sanji dying with a hole in his belly
- King vs RS Sanji :
overpowering him easily without using his sword in a kick contest and sending him to the building like a trash while he begged to let go and was shown confused only after big mom is out and King came with Gifters
i don't give a fuck about understimate this is an angry sanji who can travel through hell just to beat that one who kicked a woman but instead he got cracked
and he wanted to fight Doffy and got low diffed
2- sanji got low diffed by Doffy in some seconds while laughing at him
3- Sanji vs Doffy who didn't use hardening :
Doffy vs Gear 2sd attacks :
Doffy needed to harden his coat .
ALL in ALL is Doffy low diffed Sanji easily
those gifters beside King u damn blind sanji tard wasn't even there and came with him
those are flying gifters never were shown there you damn liar
they only appeared when King is shown with them Manga :
- King vs Base sanji :
Sanji dying with a hole in his belly
- King vs RS Sanji :
overpowering him easily without using his sword in a kick contest and sending him to the building like a trash while he begged to let go and was shown confused only after big mom is out and King came with Gifters
i don't give a fuck about understimate this is an angry sanji who can travel through hell just to beat that one who kicked a woman
but instead he got cracked and he wanted to fight Doffy and got low diffed
LoL, you could make a less use of these emotes, it's too hard to read.
Doffy acknowledged "Poele a Frire" raw power straight away, and needed to use "Parasite" to stop Sanji from attacking, otherwise there is no chance of getting away from it.
If he used haki on his coat against Luffy it's cuz he already knew that his attack was strong, and needed to protect himself, it's most like "Poele a Frire" is equal or even stronger than "Jet Gatling" based on this portrayal. But both of these attacks barely manages to do something good cuz the opponent is always ready for it most likely, Luffy's jet gatling became obsolete for example.
And again, Sanji isn't shown using haki until WCI and Wano, which shows he wasn't giving his 100% on these brief clashes, and even then he managed to hurt his opponent or keep up with them even in complete disadvantage. This man took a "Goshikito" on his face and blitzed Doffy instantly, then Doffy needed to use "Parasite", something he only used when he realized the couldn't stop his opponent.
Bruh, Doffy was laughing at Aokiji, he was laughing while getting WRECKED by Gear 4 Luffy, what are you talking about?
Again, King didn't even needed to leave his Zoan form, you're acting like he stopped for 5 minutes to call fucking Gifters, when it makes much more sense for the Gifters to obey him with a single order. And thats all headcanon
he couldn't evade in time
Vergo was clashing with sanji while he hears what ceasar clown was saying
and this is sanji after ceasar saved him with that speech
Smoker sent Vergo flying a lot of times nothing special but sanji got a cracked bones from base Vergo
that's why sanji didn't fight afterwards
Zoro low diffed monet who could make luffy looking like a clown , Zoro mid diffed a bigger threat than fodder vergo , Zoro made an Admiral shiver and got pushed back while being under gravity who is bigger threat than doffy who low diffed sanji .
Zoro came to save Law from doffy , also Law came to save sanji from the same Villain
sanji stans should be grateful he is alive until today because of Zoro doing the work instead of having a dying sanji age ago
Vergo was clashing with sanji while he hears what ceasar clown was saying
and this is sanji after ceasar saved him with that speech
Smoker sent Vergo flying a lot of times nothing special but sanji got a cracked bones from base Vergo
that's why sanji didn't fight afterwards
Zoro low diffed monet who could make luffy looking like a clown , Zoro mid diffed a bigger threat than fodder vergo , Zoro made an Admiral shiver and got pushed back while being under gravity who is bigger threat than doffy who low diffed sanji .
Zoro came to save Law from doffy , also Law came to save sanji from the same Villain
sanji stans should be grateful he is alive until today because of Zoro doing the work instead of having a dying sanji age ago
Poele a Frire" raw power got blocked by no hardened coat while Gear sd attacks needed Hardened coat
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Doffy used hardening to block luffy attacks while sanji's dj attacks blocked with coat
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sanji has a basic coa he never showed hardening we don't know if he used it or not , Zoro cut monet and blood came out below her eye and she is a logia so he used coa before he showed it in dressrosa on panel
- Doffy laughed at aokiji :
Doffy never attacked him nor he clashed with him
- doffy vs sanji :
Doffy clashed with him and laughed and nearly killed him
King blocked sanji's offence stance attack like nothing and overpowered him while sanji showed pain
and King is a swordman and used his zoan form and sanji begged for his life and threw him like a trash 
flying gifters never got shown only until King arrived with them
conclusion :
King vs base sanji :
sanji dies
King vs rs sanji :
RS sanji was out and confused while King brought with him some help to stop others
sanji vs low key vergo 
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Doffy used hardening to block luffy attacks while sanji's dj attacks blocked with coat
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sanji has a basic coa he never showed hardening we don't know if he used it or not , Zoro cut monet and blood came out below her eye and she is a logia so he used coa before he showed it in dressrosa on panel
Bruh, Doffy was laughing at Aokiji, he was laughing while getting WRECKED by Gear 4 Luffy, what are you talking about?
Doffy never attacked him nor he clashed with him
- doffy vs sanji :
Doffy clashed with him and laughed and nearly killed him
King blocked sanji's offence stance attack like nothing and overpowered him while sanji showed pain
and King is a swordman and used his zoan form and sanji begged for his life and threw him like a trash flying gifters never got shown only until King arrived with them
conclusion :
King vs base sanji :
sanji dies
King vs rs sanji :
RS sanji was out and confused while King brought with him some help to stop others
You're the best troll out here man, i acknowledge that, talking with you feels like running in circles
