Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1016 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Would those shackles have kept Zoro trapped if he was in the same situation as Yamato

Zoro is a real conqueror

 

[Tejas]

They were all veteran level opponents. Just because Zoro destroyed them easily doesn't mean they are fodder. Zoro beat Killer and Apoo who are YC level.

Killer is Tobiroppo level.
Apoo is below that as was Kamazo.
Hyozo, Hody and Pica are New World Fodder. Nothing more.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Don Chinjao has CoC lol

Sorry, you are right, but my point still stands.

Also they didn't get into a CoC clash at the tournament, nobody fainted from said clash.

What I'm saying is that while the clash doesn't disprove Yamato has CoC, it doesn't support it either.

Luffy clashed with Ulti like he did with Don Chinjao, but there is a difference between those and people who are actively using CoC (Doflamingo/Kata)

 

[mly90]

Depends.
Was Zoro abused and trapped for his entire life?
Kinda easy for him when he's not victim of 20+ years on incarceration, parental abuse and have his "hope" in for of "Ace" dying.

She didn't mention the abuse as the reason, but her fear for own life that she was unable to take them off.
Zoro seems like the type to risk it even if he had same experience of parental abuse and incarcerations

 

[Raughtale]

The black lightning isn't conquerors, the circles are. Seriously, go and see how Katakuri and Luffy did it vs Luffy and Don Chinjao (who doesn't have conquerors). See how BM and Kaido crashed, and the picture you show. We can't measure it by pre-timeskip either because the differentiation didn't exist at the time.

BM and Kaido clash looks like a bigger version of Kaido and Yamato

 

[Paperchampion23]

BM and Kaido clash looks like a bigger version of Kaido and Yamato

The point I'm making is that you could technically make the same case for Ulti and Luffy, and clearly Ulti does not have CoC.

I'm just telling people to wait before jumping to conclusions.

 

[CbShadow]

Lmfao.

Can you tell me how powerful Zoro's high end attacks are and if they can scar Kaido. Those attacks have the potential. Or how long he can maintain and use Asura mode? We haven't even seen Zoro use his barrier haki to clash with Kaido or Big Mom barrier haki.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Man, I don’t know why I had it in my head that the Kaido/Yamato CoC clash would be a double spread…don’t get me wrong, this chapter is still an absolute coup for the #Yamato4Nakama collective, but that would have made it immaculate

 

[Raughtale]

Another thing that could point to CoC is the presence of sparks before launching an attack but I'm not sure if non CoC users have shown that as well.

 

[Shepherd]

Scarring Hybrid Kaido and blocking Hakai > beating King and Queen at the same time lmfao cope candy

"Zolo scarred Hybrid Kaido"

And Queen knocked BM unconscious, knocking someone out >>>>> scarring someone. K.O'ing someone using only your body requires literal hundreds of times more force than scarring someone with a sharp weapon.

So yeah get ready to see Sanji mid-diff the guy who K.O.'d a yonko

Giving a scar is not much compared to what he received.

Really isn't, people love to inflate this feat ignoring how little the scar actually was and how little impact it actually had on things. Queen K.O.'ing BM was much more significant feat and story wise.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Another thing that could point to CoC is the presence of sparks before launching an attack but I'm not sure if non CoC users have shown that as well.

Unless Ulti has Conquerors, this is the case:

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

So in the war against the world Governament, who os gonna fight Greenbull willl be Yamato, not Jimbei or Usopp

Nah, Green Bull's opponent is Sanji.

 

[CbShadow]

Killer is Tobiroppo level.
Apoo is below that as was Kamazo.
Hyozo, Hody and Pica are New World Fodder. Nothing more.

Killer is YC3. Apoo is Is YC3.

Hyouzou easily blocked man's reacted to G2 Luffy. Hody almost killed Luffy. Pica is Vergo's level.

They are all strong just not on Zoro's level.

 

[Abysmal]

Killer is Tobiroppo level.
Apoo is below that as was Kamazo.
Hyozo, Hody and Pica are New World Fodder. Nothing more.

Kidd wasn't able to handle Apoo + Apoo Ko'd Luffy
headcanon.com because Lanji is fodder tier and got handeled and ragdolled by base King

 

[Shepherd]

can sanji do them ? yes or no ?

Zolo is YC1 lvl. If Sanji beats Queen that means Sanji is above YC2 level, if he mid-diffs Sanji is YC1 lvl.

Really, the only thing putting Zolo far above Sanji is Zolo scarring a Yonko, which Queen (Sanji's opponent) has already surpassed when he K.O.'d Meme.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Nah, Green Bull's opponent is Sanji.

Luffy vs Akainu
Zoro vs Fuji (no I don't think hes flipping side before this)
Sanji vs Ryokugyuu
Yamato vs Kizaru

:D

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Luffy vs Akainu
Zoro vs Fuji (no I don't think hes flipping side before this)
Sanji vs Ryokugyuu
Yamato vs Kizaru

:D

Zoro vs Kizaru before the Final War.

Luffy vs Issho before the Final War.

Luffy and Sabo vs Sakazuki during the Final War.

Sanji vs Ryokuguwhat'sface during the Final War.

Yamato and Jinbe vs Orange Admiral during the Final War.

 

[Doggo]

Luffy vs Akainu
Zoro vs Fuji (no I don't think hes flipping side before this)
Sanji vs Ryokugyuu
Yamato vs Kizaru

:D

Green Bull had the "i dont eat" and "only a lady could feed me" thing, which would suggest him as Sanji's opponent.
But the "lady" part kinda puts Yamato as an option as well. Just saying.

 

[Chaves]

Zoro's outperforming the other rooftop supernovas, faced, beat, and scarred Kaido which puts him above anything Sanji has done. Zoro and Sanji beating King and Queen does not mean Zoro and Sanji are on the same level. King is stronger than Queen and Zoro is in poor condition.

Stop ignoring Zoro's feats and portrayal because you want Sanji to be on his level.

King and Queen are on the same level, portrayed since their first appearances.
What if Zoro is whole? Will you admit that Zoro and Sanji are on the same level? Or the Zorotard sect prevents you from recognizing reality?

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Green Bull had the "i dont eat" and "only a lady could feed me" thing, which would suggest him as Sanji's opponent.
But the "lady" part kinda puts Yamato as an option as well. Just saying.

Maybe:

Sanji and Yamato vs Green Bull and Zoro and Jinbe vs Kizaru?

Kizaru has established beef with Zoro, and imprisoned Jinbe's former crewmate.