General & Others Understanding that some things are exclusive to Luffy and Zoro in the Strawhat crew.

[Kuro Ashi]

lmao and if usopp and sanji dont
the conclusion is they didnt need it to surpass shanks crew .

giving him the strawhat back if they are meeting shanks at all should happen very soon
lets see how quick those 2 can unlock coc
tick tock tick tock.

I ain't worried at all. I'll check in on being right about Zoro vs King first probably, but Sanji and Usopp are also sure to deliver

 

[Robin swan]

Lmao, who said anything about being as strong as Kaido?

Being apart of Luffys crew means they are going to have to fight high caliber opponents on the path of achieving their dreams. What do you think Luffy and Zoro are going to be the only ones fighting from here on out?

They going to wipe out the Blackbeard pirates and WG on their own?

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2021

Answered the question. Now take your L like a man, or keep reading Robin Swanpiece where the rest of the Straw Hats don't need to be strong come EoS when the fight against the Blackbeard pirates and WG begins.

What part of don't quote me again till you answer don't you understand?

 

[Mr.9000]

Can Luffy accomplish his dream without fighting?

Sure. We saw in WCI that poneglyphs can be stolen without beating the emperor.

Is luffy Itachi now? No way he would acheive his dream like that.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Is luffy Itachi now? No way he would acheive his dream like that.

The person asked if it was possible, and it is. Not what he’d do

 

[Robin swan]

The person asked if it was possible, and it is. Not what he’d do

It's not possible cuz like I told you BM would chase him down and at the very least BB would eventually find him. There is no world where it's possible luffy can become pk without fighting. Luffy himself knows this which is why he said he needs to be able to take the admirals or the yonko. Being ok is directly tied to challenging the world. The WG wouldn't let it happen if they caught wind, other pirates that want to be pk would chase after him, and you have to go into yonko territory multiple times to get what you need to become pk. Even in wci luffy had 2 major fights both of which took half a day.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's not possible cuz like I told you BM would chase him down and at the very least BB would eventually find him. There is no world where it's possible luffy can become pk without fighting. Luffy himself knows this which is why he said he needs to be able to take the admirals or the yonko. Being ok is directly tied to challenging the world. The WG wouldn't let it happen if they caught wind, other pirates that want to be pk would chase after him, and you have to go into yonko territory multiple times to get what you need to become pk. Even in wci luffy had 2 major fights both of which took half a day.

Roger became pirate king without fighting big mom.

If Luffys only goal was to make it to Raftel he doesn’t need to fight. That’s just fact.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Roger became pirate king without fighting big mom.

If Luffys only goal was to make it to Raftel he doesn’t need to fight. That’s just fact.

not his only goal so your hypothetical fails.
.....
and also roger not fighting big mom doesnt mean he didnt need to fight
not fighting everyone != not needing to fight....

its a goal that requires luffy to surpass a bulk of his competitors in strength
its really that simple

 

[Sir Yasheen]

not his only goal so your hypothetical fails.
.....
and also roger not fighting big mom doesnt mean he didnt need to fight
not fighting everyone != not needing to fight....

I merely mentioned that it’s possible to do it without fighting and it is because that’s the exact question I was asked.

 

[Robin swan]

Roger became pirate king without fighting big mom.

If Luffys only goal was to make it to Raftel he doesn’t need to fight. That’s just fact.

Again dude Roger already had everything and fought ever other rival in his gen. BM couldn't chase Roger down because Roger was stronger and had a vastly superior crew. Luffy has none of this. Like I told you earlier stop acting like Roger just ran from every everything when you only have 1 instance. Luffy can't do what Roger didn't cuz he isn't already 95% at pk.

Lastly again luffy's goal is to be the most free man in the world. To him that is what it means to be pk not just making it to raftel.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Strength is a secondary factor for Luffy's dream. Luffy wants to have a big adventure.

That's why he doesn't want to know anything about Raftel and One Piece before hand.

His dream is not to be the strongest, but to be the most free.

He needs to be strong for that, but strength is not ultimately what he seeks.

 

[Mr.9000]

you asked too many questions i wouldn't spent 10 min reading and answering all.
1) zoro joined luffy because luffy blackmailed him into joining him........ he wouldn't have joined luffy if luffy didn't blackmail him LOL

Provin Zoro a king. Luffy got biggest steal of all time. Maybe the marines shouldve went with, the monkey burglar, Monkey D Luffy

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Strength is a secondary factor for Luffy's dream. Luffy wants to have a big adventure.

That's why he doesn't want to know anything about Raftel and One Piece before hand.

His dream is not to be the strongest, but to be the most free.

He needs to be strong for that, but strength is not ultimately what he seeks.

if you mean secondary as in less important
then a hard disagree
not secondary if thats what we spend the most time on.....
his dream isnt to be the strongest
but to achieve it
he has to be if not close to that so unfortunately its synonymous. cant be secondary is he himself states this

 

[Kuro Ashi]

if you mean secondary as in less important
then a hard disagree
not secondary if thats what we spend the most time on.....
his dream isnt to be the strongest
but to achieve it
he has to be if not close to that so unfortunately its synonymous. cant be secondary is he himself states this

Strength is a tool, his goal is freedom and a big adventure.

Zoro's end goal is strength as a swordsman.

Luffy's end goal is a big adventure and freedom.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

What part of don't quote me again till you answer don't you understand?

I already answered it Mr. Big Brain. Smh...

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Strength is a tool, his goal is freedom and a big adventure.

Zoro's end goal is strength as a swordsman.

Luffy's end goal is a big adventure and freedom.

His end goal is to be the pirate king
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao

these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals

the stronger you get
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal

cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .

 

[Robin swan]

I already answered it Mr. Big Brain. Smh...

No you didn't you talked around it. Here's the questions again and we will make it as simple as possible yes or no.
1. If the sh's never fought again can zoro and luffy accomplish their dreams? Yes or no?

2. Can the other sh's still accomplish their dreams if they never fight again? Yes or no.

I don't want to hear nothing but a yes or no. No mental gymnastics where I shown you that what you are saying is the sh's are fighting for luffy's dream not there own. Your entire premise is wrong here.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

His end goal is to be the pirate king
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao

these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals

the stronger you get
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal

cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .

Strength is the tool that facilitates him having the big adventure and freedom.

Luffy seeks the big adventure and freedom and makes use of strength to make that possible.

Zoro seeks strength and makes use of his adventure with Luffy to gain more strength in order to achieve his goal of being the strongest Swordsman.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Strength is the tool that facilitates him having the big adventure and freedom.

Luffy seeks the big adventure and freedom and makes use of strength to make that possible.

Zoro seeks strength and makes use of his adventure with Luffy to gain more strength in order to achieve his goal of being the strongest Swordsman.

am not seeing how that makes strength less important
if strength gets him the freedom he desires
just as strength gets zoro the title he wants.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

am not seeing how that makes strength less important
if strength gets him the freedom he desires
just as strength gets zoro the title he wants.

Zoro wants the strength in itself. He wants to be the strongest Swordsman.

Luffy's ultimate goal is not the strength but the freedom and the adventure.

Luffy would fail his dream if he was the strongest man in the world but got his adventure ruined and lost his freedom.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Zoro wants the strength in itself. He wants to be the strongest Swordsman.

Luffy's ultimate goal is not the strength but the freedom and the adventure.

Luffy would fail his dream if he was the strongest man in the world but got his adventure ruined and lost his freedom.

zoro doesnt want strength in itself
he wants strength to earn a title
luffy wants to be stronger to be the pirate king , to be free at sea
shanks is said to be the freest pirate at sea
you think luffy would stop where he is ?
whitebeard was the wsm
you think luffy would stop where he is?

luffy would also fail if he wasnt strong enough

Not secondary or less important.