News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[Indigo]

does yamato have a bounty already though?

kaido had him in his plans and cp0 is in touch with wano. so they must know of his importance to kaido and his strength? is yamato stronger than king though?

I doubt it, since almost nobody outside of Onigahsima knows Kaido has a son / daughter.

 

[Patryipe]

Why wouldn't Oda just reveal King's bounty together with Queen's back then tho? that would be a perfect meme to make believe on the Queen vs Zoro and Sanji vs Queen. If he is only 1.33B and Queen is 1.32B, why wait all this time to reveal that one?

He probably just forgot to be honest.

The only hope left for King being >1.33 is that Oda kept it secret until now.

If it was K1.33 and Q1.32 we would have gotten it already, no? I mean, wasn't Queens bounty revealed back in Udon already?

But on the other hand Marco getting 1,374 and getting that revealed outside of the manga is suspect. Almost like Oda did it to avoid King getting clowned to the max by revealing that Marco has a bigger bounty than him in the same page.

 

[Bogard]

Looks like Luffy's 1,5 Billions bounty is the benchmark Oda set for the 5th yonko in potential. Only Beckman has a chance to have a higher bounty. It'd probably be anywhere between 1,4 and 1,7 depending on King's bounty

 

[ConquistadoR]

I doubt it, since almost nobody outside of Onigahsima knows Kaido has a son / daughter.

was that ever confirmed? we as readers have no knowledge of yamato until kaido talks about him. but why wouldn't the world govt know? (since cp0 is in wano and is trading with beast pirates). why wouldn't big mom (she found out the secret to enter wano through her intelligence network) know?

 

[Extravlad]

If King has 1b330 then Marco is still higher than him.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Beckman would still have the highest bounty among them, having 100 mil above Marco would consider a mention from the navy

The way how they hyping it, as I said neither King and the others where hyped like this via their bounty.
Im sure even Yasopp going to get a higher bounty then King and co, he was mentioned with Roux and Beckman.
I expect at least 1.5B alone for Yasopp and more for the other two.^^

 

[JoNdule]

It's almost midight in about an hour where I live... so before I go inactive for quite long.

I am not still sure that Benn will be above Luffy in bounty tho.
Post WCI luffy ( that barely matched base Kata) > Marco/King/Queen in power, status and fame. Or else Luffy would fight a calamity in kuri/udon instead of kaido and Linlin prior Raid.

they were crying"bounty don't matter"
Now "Marco is OP, above Katakuri" using YCs bounties to rank kata with others coz they know Marco lacks true criteria to be equal to Kata/luffy.

WB is 500M below Roger yet Roger >= WB.
Kaido has 223M over Linlin while King and Queen have 320-330M over kata. Which makes sense based on their brutality and captain's influence (200M+ over Linlin)
WB has 678M over Linlin but Marco has only 368M over Kata! Despite all the factors.

Underlings reveal :
Ray : skills hyped first
Katakuri : skills were hyped first.
King & Queen: cruelty were noted first.
Marco : regen & rebirth flames hyped.

You see the difference in hype during intro? Ray and Kata were hypes for their haki mastery and power not df or craziness.
Even Marco's bounty wasn't hyped in sbs or manga by Oda...

Next up : Posthawk having less than 1.5B.
Benn might have also less than 1.5B if Oda doesn't want him above Luffy in status.

The only 1b+ which felt majestic are Jack and Kata where Oda really hyped them in their intros.

Still waiting for any YC to have CoC + fs/adcoc + awakening + G4 stats

until then don't tag me when I'm off.

 

[SLC_Girl]

Beckman is closer to Shanks in terms of respect, not bounty or strength.

And Mihawk's bounty are "freeze" for many years, so maybe he don't have a big price for his head actually.

You don't gain that much respect without being strong in the OP verse.
That's why I said rebalanced Warlord bounties, which already happened as mentioned by Brannew.

 

[MonsterZoro]

i hope no hope left for zoro and sanji 1.5b+ after wano

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why wouldn't Oda just reveal King's bounty together with Queen's back then tho? that would be a perfect meme to make believe on the Queen vs Zoro and Sanji vs Queen. If he is only 1.33B and Queen is 1.32B, why wait all this time to reveal that one?

He probably just forgot to be honest.

To show the double bounty poster after their flashback is my guess.

 

[Indigo]

To show the double bounty poster after their flashback is my guess.

But if that was the case, then why wouldn't he wait to show Queen's bounty alongside King when that happens?

instead he showed us Queen's bounty first.

 

[ConquistadoR]

To show the double bounty poster after their flashback is my guess.

yeah, they were shown to be with kaido even 20 years back

 

[Electricmastro]

Betty also plays the largest role in getting people to side with the Revolutionaries against higher powers, so I’d understand why they consider her the be the most threatening Revolutionary commander.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

But if that was the case, then why wouldn't he wait to show Queen's bounty alongside King when that happens?

instead he showed us Queen's bounty first.

Because queens been a lot more important to the plot of wano than king has. Just like Jack was incredibly important to the plot of Zou which is when people mentioned his bounty.

King just hasn’t been as important of a character as the other two. You think Oda is going to show Marco kicking both king and queens butts and then have kings bounty surpass Marcos? Nah

 

[Jackteo]

First you ruin my username and now you’re kicking me out.

what’s next, taking my wife?!

Thank you for your suggestion fake Tac, I'll take his wife

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Betty also plays the largest role in getting people to side with the Revolutionaries against higher powers, so I’d understand why they consider her the be the most threatening Revolutionary commander.

Or she’s also just the strongest? It makes sense if Dragon put one of his strongest to defend his home sea.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Because queens been a lot more important to the plot of wano than king has. Just like Jack was incredibly important to the plot of Zou which is when people mentioned his bounty.

King just hasn’t been as important of a character as the other two. You think Oda is going to show Marco kicking both king and queens butts and then have kings bounty surpass Marcos? Nah

he'll probably create a situation where king seems like a insanely high level threat (taking out multiple fodder or releasing some bio weapon etc) to the alliance in onigashima and then lead it into a 1v1 with either zoro or marco and then will reveal his bounty.

 

[Lukegranders]

I’m still bettting kings bounty is 1.33.

people don’t realize if that’s the case it would be a spoiler because it would confirm the king and queen matchups

 

[Sir Yasheen]

he'll probably create a situation where king seems like a insanely high level threat (taking out multiple fodder or releasing some bio weapon etc) to the alliance in onigashima and then lead it into a 1v1 with either zoro or marco and then will reveal his bounty.

You’re describing what Queens doing. King isn’t queen.

 

[ConquistadoR]

You’re describing what Queens doing. King isn’t queen.

yea i meant something LIKE taking out multiple fodder/releasing bio weapon etc. point is that it'll be portrayed like all is lost if no one stops king immediately and then zoro/marco will step up to fight him on that 1v1. it can be anything.

my guess is king will try to stop luffy from going up again to fight kaido and zoro will intercept him or something like that.