Powers & Abilities Sanji Conqueror Haki Confirmed

I still am attempting to wrap my mind over Sanji's decisional pattern on WCI, he would not even attempt to trust his nakama better instead of dismissing the All Blue so soon. Luffy would have never dismissed the One Piece in order to save Ace and not to trust him differently.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
And he did achieved consequently, he didn't needed to keep yelling to everyone "IM GONNA BE THE KING OF THE PIRATES" or Strongest Swordsman, the same for other CoC users, it simply happened as a consequence of the kind of person he was, being a pirate is a consequence of his childhood, and wanting a family was his MAIN GOAL
whitebeard was orphaned at a young age due to war and instability.

if he even wants to DREAM of having a family, he needs to be strong enough to protect them. and that is how his conquerors haki manifested. he was a fucking emperor of the seas who called aokiji "an upstart" and told akainu to go light candles at birthday parties.

idk why yall are bringing characters like oden, whitebeard and katakuri to justify sanji having CoC. he literally doesnt share any major character traits with these characters.
 
i always had this feeling that the only real Kidd fans are rerere reggie and pantheos, the rest are just hopeless sanjiturds pretending to be Kidd fans to downplay zoro

and i think its getting more clear lmao
Impossible. No real Sanji fan can be (or pretend to be) a Kid fan, we don't like those trash characters and we are not good cheaters:gonope:
 
Right. Even if it killed Nami basically.

That's the paradox.
And WB was a pussy not wanting to avenge Oden because reasons of citizens being harmed. It's better to live them like slaves for 20 years and Oden's daughter as whore. Hell he even didn't wanted to face marines in the flashback because... Oh no trouble.
Same against BB. He let him escape and haven't cared to chase him. Ace by his stupidity did and was killed.

At the end he couldn't protect shit as well because of his passive behaviour
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
And WB was a pussy not wanting to avenge Oden because reasons of citizens being harmed. It's better to live them like slaves for 20 years and Oden's daughter as whore. Hell he even didn't wanted to face marines in the flashback because... Oh no trouble.
Same against BB. He let him escape and haven't cared to chase him. Ace by his stupidity did and was killed.

At the end he couldn't protect shit as well because of his passive behaviour
whitebeard didnt avenge oden because fighting kaido at wano will result in casualities in the whitebeard pirates lol. he didnt give 2 shits about the citizens of wano.

he did fight the entire marines at marineford for ace and ace was freed. ace died because of his own flaws of not running away and fighting akainu. whitebeard was willing to sacrifice himself and fight everyone at marineford so that his crew can escape.

its just amusing at this point to see yall drag whitebeard, oden and katakuri down to somehow justify sanji having conquerors when their motivations and character has literally nothing common with sanji lmao.
 
whitebeard didnt avenge oden because fighting kaido at wano will result in casualities in the whitebeard pirates lol. he didnt give 2 shits about the citizens of wano.

he did fight the entire marines at marineford for ace and ace was freed. ace died because of his own flaws of not running away and fighting akainu. whitebeard was willing to sacrifice himself and fight everyone at marineford so that his crew can escape.

its just amusing at this point to see yall drag whitebeard, oden and katakuri down to somehow justify sanji having conquerors when their motivations and character has literally nothing common with sanji lmao.
So much for avenging his family.... Even if all would have agreed.

Roger the alpha was the complete opposite as we know and so is Luffy... See EL for example

And again. Why wasn't he going against BB before? You know... The man who has broken the only rule on his ship.

And somehow you get me wrong... WB is awesome... But people talk as he had the biggest ambition ever, if it never was the case.
Same goes for Katakuri as well.

And BTW. I am still sceptical and always said, that I do not think Sanji will get CoC... Hell I even said I can see Usoop becoming it before him.

So Billy... Stop putting an individual person who is a fan of Sanji or who the fuck else under a category just because it is more easy for you to debate

PS
And everyone from OL or AP knows that I always said that Zoro will get CoC as well.
 
wb wanted protect his family like zoro and luffy while sanji can't fight against a woman even if she would kill one of his nakama:whitepress:(wb: pathetic)
Thats not even the case, the fact he can't hit women, but actually manage to make them end up liking him shows his charisma, there are several times where Sanji put his life on the line and made the biggest efforts to save crewmates/allies more than anyone in the crew, while Zoro and Luffy they aren't smart like Sanji or they are busy doing nothing or being idiots stuck in chimneys.

We didn't even reached that kind of situation where Sanji is towards a woman and his friend is going to die in front of him and he needs to choose to attack a woman or not.

You're creating a situation where the character X or Y will supposedly fail for the sake of saying they are bad.
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I don't understand. You're pointing out a lot of positive traits of Sanji such as his humility, code of honor as a chef, etc... but none of that is relevant to CoC from what we're told by Gorgon sisters, Chinjao and Trebol?

Not everything good about a character is CoC lol. For example, Zoro is extremely loyal to his captain and that might just be one of his best traits, but that's irrelevant to CoC.

And Oda puts Zoro and Sanji in that manner because they're Luffy's right and left hand men? Isn't it obvious? But what has the got to do with CoC? Even then, Zoro has portrayal that goes even further than that; with him being put in WG, leaders of new gen, etc etc.

If you're trying to convince me Sanji is a good character then you don't need to. Gags aside, he is. Does he have qualities of leadership like Luffy and Zoro? Definitely, he's practically in command most of the time when those two aren't around.


But none of that changes the fact that Sanji lacks the imposing nature, pride and disposition to stand above others which literally every single CoC user possesses, and is outright stated to be a requirement by multiple characters. He's simply not a Conqueror. He does not have personality and character of one, even if some traits can match a bit such as his leadership.

It just looks like you feel like every single positive traits Sanji has should amount to CoC even if there's no manga statements or implications of those things mattering in that regard? If you can link me otherwise, then cool, but you don't need to think just because someone is saying Sanji isn't fit to be Conqueror, it means he has no positive trait, isn't important to Luffy, or is just weak trash. Those things are irrelevant to CoC.

And those "gag scenes" are part of his personality, mister. Quit treating them like filler. Imagine a gag scene of Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom, etc just walking over and calling themselves slaves of someone? He just doesn't have that pride, it's simple as that... and it's honestly, again, not a bad thing. Just the way Sanji is.
It's obviously a GaG, why did he scared Nami just by looking at her during "Luffy vs Sanji" if he is her "slave"? Whats even the last time Sanji said something like that and it wasn't an obvious GaG or perv fetish?

Sanji is prideful, he is known as Black Leg, he rejects being part of his biological family and makes very clear why he is so much different from them. A major plot of WCI is exactly this, he has pride of who he is despite all the odds, from being a chef to being called Black Leg and completely refusing to share the same ideals as the Vinsmokes do, why do you think he hates when someone mentions him with Judge?
This shows how Sanji will create a whole new meaning for who he is and how he is known and will be known throughout the world, even using what is his birthright (Raid Suit for example) he wants to create a whole new meaning for being a Vinsmoke, and surely he will end up being as the Vinsmoke completely different, stronger and prideful (for the right reasons) than any of his family members.

Zeff is actually the guy who took care of him since he was a kid and he see Sanji as someone special since ever:


You're quit messing up the meaning of "stand above the others", this could mean a lot of things at once. WB saying "Im Whitebeard" could easily mean absolutely nothing to being a CoC, he is praising himself just like pirates normally do, it wasn't even his main goal to set sail which was having a family, you're trying to say Sanji doesn't have this trait (which he clearly does and its shown at many moments in the series) while for example, Sanji hates people who treats food like trash, thats actually one of the major plots at Wano, and thats one of the main reasons of why Zoro and Sanji did reached this point here:

What do i know for sure is, "standing above the others", even if it has lots of meanings, is something a Conqueror doesn't actually need to keep showing willingly, they do it unwillingly by being who they normally are, and i see this especially on Zoro and Sanji for example, and other confirmed CoC users.

Why was even Doflamingo, a CoC user, praising Sanji out of nowhere?

Why does everyone else and the Supernova calls him by his own epithet?


 
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Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Thats not even the case, the fact he can't hit women, but actually manage to make them end up liking him shows his charisma, there are several times where Sanji put his life on the line and made the biggest efforts to save crewmates/allies more than anyone in the crew, while Zoro and Luffy they aren't smart like Sanji or they are busy doing nothing or being idiots stuck in chimneys.


We didn't even reached that kind of situation where Sanji is towards a woman and his friend is going to die in front of him and he needs to choose to attack a woman or not.

You're creating a situation where the character X or Y will supposedly fail for the sake of saying they are bad.
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It's obviously a GaG, why did he scared Nami just by looking at her during "Luffy vs Sanji" if he is his "slave"? Whats even the last time Sanji said something like that and it wasn't an obvious GaG or perv fetish?

Sanji is prideful, he is known as Black Leg, he rejects being part of his biological family and makes very clear why he is so much different from them. A major plot of WCI is exactly this, he has pride of who he is, from being a chef to being called Black Leg and completely refusing to share the same ideals as the Vinsmokes do, why do you think he hates when someone mentions him with Judge?
This shows how Sanji will create a whole new meaning for who he is and how he is known and will be known throughout the world, even using what is his birthright (Raid Suit for example) he wants to create a whole new meaning for being a Vinsmoke, and surely he will end up being as the Vinsmoke completely different, stronger and prideful than any of his family members.

Zeff is actually the guy who took care of him since he was a kid and he see Sanji as someone special since ever:


You're quit messing up the meaning of "stand above the others", this could mean a lot of things at once. WB saying "Im Whitebeard" could easily mean absolutely nothing to being a CoC, he is praising himself just like pirates normally do, it wasn't even his main goal to set sail, you're trying to say Sanji doesn't have this trait (which he clearly does and its shown at many moments in the series) while for example, Sanji hates people who treats food like trash, thats actually one of the major plots at Wano, and thats one of the main reasons of why Zoro and Sanji did reached this point here:
Nami should have dead by kalifa oda had to nerf her (she forget his ability) due sanji couldn’t fight agaisnt woman
 
Nami should have dead by kalifa oda had to nerf her (she forget his ability) due sanji couldn’t fight agaisnt woman
Thats trusting a nakama, thats absolutely necessary for a crew, Luffy for example he knows he needs help to achieve his dream, Luffy the Captain is actually the most dependent guy on the crew, just look at Zoro helping him in the rooftop at crucial moments. Zoro and Sanji also trusts each others capabilities
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Thats trusting a nakama, thats absolutely necessary for a crew, Luffy for example he knows he needs help to achieve his dream, Luffy the Captain is actually the most dependent guy on the crew, just look at Zoro helping him in the rooftop at crucial moments. Zoro and Sanji also trusts each others capabilities
So luffy is bad captain because he doesn't trust than nami or usopp can defeat kaido?
 
So luffy is bad captain because he doesn't trust than nami or usopp can defeat kaido?
Im not saying Luffy is bad for this or for that, my point is that trusting a nakama to do something you can't do (for whatever reason) is absolutely and inevitably necessary, and thats not just for fighting matters
 
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