Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1020 Spoilers Discussion
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gear 4 luffy never was stronger than kaido, he just landed hundreds of hits too shallow to do any noticeable damage.
also i don't think it matters or not if luffy went gear 4. gear 4 only multiply basic physical stats, while haki flow is a completely different source of damage fully dependent on haki, and gear 4 doesn't boost haki strength, so it's the same thing whatever luffy does.
also i don't think it matters or not if luffy went gear 4. gear 4 only multiply basic physical stats, while haki flow is a completely different source of damage fully dependent on haki, and gear 4 doesn't boost haki strength, so it's the same thing whatever luffy does.
Cap kaido didn't just insult his usage hw also insulted his gomu gomu attacks. Also we have mo clue if luffy fought kaido in gear 4th or not because the fight was ofscreened. And f luffy didn't use it then he knew that even with it he wouldn't have won and had an even lesser time frame in gear 4th since he is using so much haki in that state
Gear 4 swatted Kaido around, avoided his attacks, tanked his boro breath directly when he was being attacked by 2 yonko back to back, alone. It got to the point Luffy was able to pummel Kaido and Big Mom couldn't even risk intervening (and bruise Kaido that still had the same bruises in the same places after turning hybrid). It is safe to say G4 is stronger than unawakened Kaido, Kaido can outlast G4, but he can't outperform it.
G4 impressed Kidd so much he pretty much gave up on Kaido and completely freaked out Big Mom until she saw the time limit.
If you want to see why base damage is important after adding the appropriate haki penetration- think of haki bypassing his scales as sort of like Kaido's kryptonite. What would damage Superman more if it hit him- a kryptonite bullet to the chest or a kryptonite tank shell to the chest? The first would create a small hole, the second would explode his torso entirely.
G4 impressed Kidd so much he pretty much gave up on Kaido and completely freaked out Big Mom until she saw the time limit.
If you want to see why base damage is important after adding the appropriate haki penetration- think of haki bypassing his scales as sort of like Kaido's kryptonite. What would damage Superman more if it hit him- a kryptonite bullet to the chest or a kryptonite tank shell to the chest? The first would create a small hole, the second would explode his torso entirely.
His attack failed off screen, it is quite clear from the narrative tricks used and the phrasing Kaido mentioned.
In that round of combat Luffy was still learning to use advanced CoC as he went, now Luffy's subsequent haki bloom has even made his voice of all things awaken to the point that he could communicate with non users in a submarine...
In that round of combat Luffy was still learning to use advanced CoC as he went, now Luffy's subsequent haki bloom has even made his voice of all things awaken to the point that he could communicate with non users in a submarine...
full zoan kaido lacks mobility to a ridiculous extent, his only valuable attack are elemental that does no damage, everyone of the rooftop 5 supernovas could survive boro breath the same way they survived indra, also luffy is immune to lightning so big moms intervention is futile.
in hybrid kaido can easily block or dodge gear 4 attacks, he has the mobility, speed and power to do that.
physical strength is not effective against kaido it's been proven time and time again, the only way to hurt kaido is through haki flow specifically ACoC, your kryptonite example does not apply to this situation, physical strength = 0 no matter how many times you multiplied it, it all depends on how strong the haki is.
in hybrid kaido can easily block or dodge gear 4 attacks, he has the mobility, speed and power to do that.
physical strength is not effective against kaido it's been proven time and time again, the only way to hurt kaido is through haki flow specifically ACoC, your kryptonite example does not apply to this situation, physical strength = 0 no matter how many times you multiplied it, it all depends on how strong the haki is.
It's insane how strong yamato is , pre-udon G4 luffy got 1 shotted against normale kaido and this lady is fighting HYBRID KAIDO wtf? it would destroy the power dynamic of the crew even more then jinbe joining , i guess the current ranking is this
1) Zoro
2) Luffy = Yamato
3) Jinbe
4) Sanji = Franky
after Luffy and Zoro zenkai boost :
1) Zoro
2) Luffy
3) Yamato
4) Jinbe
5) Sanji = Franky
1) Zoro
2) Luffy = Yamato
3) Jinbe
4) Sanji = Franky
after Luffy and Zoro zenkai boost :
1) Zoro
2) Luffy
3) Yamato
4) Jinbe
5) Sanji = Franky
This is how Sanji's main opponent this arc reacted to Zoro's simple slash that didn't even touch him:
Sanji fans still bring up Doriki from 15 years ago, can you imagine if Zoro's main opponent was scared to death of Sanji? Y'all would never let it go. The difference in portrayal is clear, Zoro is massively above Sanji. Get over it.
Sanji fans still bring up Doriki from 15 years ago, can you imagine if Zoro's main opponent was scared to death of Sanji? Y'all would never let it go. The difference in portrayal is clear, Zoro is massively above Sanji. Get over it.
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