Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1021 Spoilers Discussion

[Jailer]

It would be, wouldn´t be the first time.
Training for 2 months is also fine, but why would a technique she learned in timeskip overshadow Haki reveal when Sanji can not even use that Haki?

Or he can, and it's just a similar case as with WW who can use visible hardening but not Sasaki or Black Maria for some bs reason. There's no consistency here, you have to come up with all kinds of crazy bs to excuse that, Oda doesn't bother.

 

[Peroroncino]

I thought momo was gonna become an adult and kill kaido with his bare hands what happened to that?

 

[Blother Fertitta]

chapter kinda confusing no?

 

[WesMidnight]

No dude , that could simply be shadows , when Luffy or Zoro used hardening oda made a big fucking deal about it. No panels No hardening for lanji

The Daifuku one could have been shadows. That was debatable, but you can't say it wasn't for sure, from the manga alone.
The anime expanded the small panel into a large animated sequence and confirmed that specific ambiguous instance was CoA (without having Sanji using CoA arbitrarily in other scenes).

The Drake one can't reasonably be shadows by any metric, in the manga or the specific expanded scene in the anime, you are acting in very bad faith around this point.

Given the preponderance of the evidence I think it should be clear to any non-shithead that Sanji can use CoA hardening.

CoA was a big deal back in Punk Hazard/Fishman Island. Not so much by the time of WCI, hence lack of emphasis, especially considering Oda can't usually even draw it on Sanji due to his black leg design. Hyping it up here, when he most likely used it before without it being visible wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

Wtf im not baiting
Im just pointing the obvious that you’re all having a mental breakdown and nothing happened yet

just wait until MKK happened
THEN have your meltdown

Momo wielding the Snake slayer sword will kill Orochi after he uses his final form
Zoro wielding the Hell Judgement Sword will kill the Demon King and cut him down to the bottom of hell ( hell = wano)

 

[Roo]

Well you had Katakuri being a Logia that defied Oda´s previous statement for example.
Weekly schedule takes its toll but yeah, editors should know better.

Yeah this chapter will create a plot hole that will be retcon either the next one or next volume

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Basically, a different word for zenkai boost?

Which it isn´t.
One is an automatic power-up whenever you are pressured to a certain degree due to your genes, the other is a conscious effort to grow stronger and struggle to come up with ways of doing so.
Pretty easy to differentiate.

 

[CbShadow]

The Zoro haters are mad again. What else is new.

Now they are trying to push the idea that Momo will kill Kaido if he becomes an adult. That is funny because somehow becoming an adult will make him an incredibly strongest and skilled swordsman in their head.

If he does become an adult he will be the perfect opponent for Orochi. Somebody has to defeat him.

ZKK = Zoro kills Kaido
MKO = Momo kills Orochi

 

[Finalbeta]

chapter kinda confusing no?

I think Momo will probably not return Adult or at best momentarily if Oda set him to kill Orochi with Ame no Habakiri.

Makes sense he would do it and not Kin'emon.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

The Daifuku one could have been shadows. That was debatable, but you can't say it wasn't for sure, from the manga alone.
The anime expanded the small panel into a large animated sequence and confirmed that specific ambiguous instance was CoA (without having Sanji using CoA arbitrarily in other scenes).

The Drake one can't reasonably be shadows by any metric, in the manga or the specific expanded scene in the anime, you are acting in very bad faith around this point.

Given the preponderance of the evidence I think it should be clear to any non-shithead that Sanji can use CoA hardening.

CoA was a big deal back in Punk Hazard/Fishman Island. Not so much by the time of WCI, hence lack of emphasis, especially considering Oda can't usually even draw it on Sanji due to his black leg design. Hyping it up here, when he most likely used it before without it being visible wouldn't make any sense.

I'm not saying Sanji doesn't have Hardening , i believe he does but it's not Confirmed

 

[Gyro The God]

Momo wielding the Snake slayer sword will kill Orochi after he uses his final form
Zoro wielding the Hell Judgement Sword will kill the Demon King and cut him down to the bottom of hell ( hell = wano)

source: my ass

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Or he can, and it's just a similar case as with WW who can use visible hardening but not Sasaki or Black Maria for some bs reason. There's no consistency here, you have to come up with all kinds of crazy bs to excuse that, Oda doesn't bother.

To be completely fair, there are mid tiers that can´t use Hardening yet still are there by different meansm Haki is not end all be all.
But yeah, Sasaki not using Hardening was real bs.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

source: my ass

i'm oda assistant

 

[CbShadow]

people are having a breakdown cos of the momo growing up bullshit. which is bad writing and it turned into oda fans vs people who criticize one piece. about this and about robin's powerups having weird interaction with the timeline.

nobody thinks mkk is gonna happen except yall candylickers lmfaoo. anything to put down zoro, everything to down play zoro.

Momo becoming an adult will blow up in their face. Momo is already a Zoro fanboy.

 

[Roo]

I'm not saying Sanji doesn't have Hardening , i believe he does but it's not Confirmed

Hardening is literally CoA. It’s not an advanced form or an upgrade. It’s literally the same shit but colored

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Which it isn´t.
One is an automatic power-up whenever you are pressured to a certain degree due to your genes, the other is a conscious effort to grow stronger and struggle to come up with ways of doing so.
Pretty easy to differentiate.

So how would you know they struggled to grow if there are no visible signs of them doing so?

 

[ConquistadoR]

I thought momo was gonna become an adult and kill kaido with his bare hands what happened to that?

even commanders of the candylicker army like gyro and patrice etienne are running around with full vigor from a slight hope from spoilers lol. havent seen these mfs for weeks and now they're out of their caves to downplay zoro

 

[Finalbeta]

Momo wielding the Snake slayer sword will kill Orochi after he uses his final form
Zoro wielding the Hell Judgement Sword will kill the Demon King and cut him down to the bottom of hell ( hell = wano)

It makes perfect sense and Oda has shown us his series can be logical when parallels are portrayed. Just thinking of Ryuma and Zoro / Zoro and Wano.

For instance Nika intended as the Sun God who will free the World's populations strikes so much like Luffy. Makes sense with the notion he will likely open the Borders of Wano too.

 

[Peroroncino]

Momo becoming an adult will blow up in their face. Momo is already a Zoro fanboy.

That wont happen shinobu already refused momo.
Too bad i wanted to see him kill orochi

 

[ConquistadoR]

Momo becoming an adult will blow up in their face. Momo is already a Zoro fanboy.

momo gonna kill orochi while getting zoro and oden flashbacks. wanna see what these fucking candyclowns got to say about that