Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1021 Spoilers Discussion

[ConquistadoR]

queen effectively caused the udon riot. he also was the cause behind close to 4000 beast pirates betraying them with the ice oni thing. he also couldnt stop tama from giving the order from right under his nose. he couldve also put down chopper much earlier and because he didnt zoro is going to come back up again.

even when sanji/shinobu saved momo only one out of king and queen reacted and acted to stop him.

king has been lacklustre so far but queen < king.

 

[Queek Hea D Taker]

Who is Ace? Yamato?

I still think that its weird having all the cards except that one...

 

[ConquistadoR]

If Queen is incompetent, King is the same way, unless you think kicking a boat climbing a waterfall and letting Sanji save Momonosuke is something from another world.

severe king downplay

queen effectively caused the udon riot. he also was the cause behind close to 4000 beast pirates betraying them with the ice oni thing. he also couldnt stop tama from giving the order from right under his nose. he couldve also put down chopper much earlier and because he didnt zoro is going to come back up again.

even when sanji/shinobu saved momo only one out of king and queen reacted and acted to stop him.

king has been lacklustre so far but queen < king.

 

[Julius]

i thought king was stronger than big mom?
But fact is one was scared the other wasn't.

Thats because King wasn't fighting, just talking with a "peaceful" and handcuffed Big Mom, totally different situation.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

queen effectively caused the udon riot. he also was the cause behind close to 4000 beast pirates betraying them with the ice oni thing. he also couldnt stop tama from giving the order from right under his nose. he couldve also put down chopper much earlier and because he didnt zoro is going to come back up again.

even when sanji/shinobu saved momo only one out of king and queen reacted and acted to stop him.

king has been lacklustre so far but queen < king.

How did Queen cause the Udon Riot?
And personally, I still prefer a character who does things and have it backfire rather than someone who doesn't do anything...
Queen may be fucking up, but god at least he's doing entertaining and cool things.

 

[Peroroncino]

Thats because King wasn't fighting, just talking with a "peaceful" and handcuffed Big Mom, totally different situation.

i don't remember her being handcuffed when she stepped right in front of him on top of that fish

 

[ConquistadoR]

Thats because King wasn't fighting, just talking with a "peaceful" and handcuffed Big Mom, totally different situation.

big mom knew both king and queen by name. but stilll she asked only one of them to join her crew.
even though king is of a different race and queen is a cyborg we all know bigmom loves cyborgs since she wanted to collect franky as well.

spoiler alert : it isnt queen.

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How did Queen cause the Udon Riot?
And personally, I still prefer a character who does things and have it backfire rather than someone who doesn't do anything...
Queen may be fucking up, but god at least he's doing entertaining and cool things.

queen knew luffy & kidd and the lot were not bound by the neck cuffs nor seastone. IMO he shouldnt have run the entire sumo inferno in the first place. and then abandoning it entirely with just babanuki incharge is another fuck up/PIS

 

[Julius]

severe king downplay

Im downplaying King cuz the agenda here is making King look awesome and Queen look bad, im making the counterpoint that things are quite not that way.

It was needed X-Drake, Zoro, Chopper, Hyogoro and Marco working together to stop Queen's plagues from killing everybody. How is this incompetence?
Queen is probably the Commander put in the most unusual situations in the series until now, starting with an Younko landing out of nowhere right in front of him

 

[ConquistadoR]

Queen may be fucking up, but god at least he's doing entertaining and cool things.

queen is damn entertaining. probably one of the most colourful character in the series. but he isnt the most competent for sure.

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It was needed X-Drake, Zoro, Chopper, Hyogoro and Marco working together to stop Queen's plagues from killing everybody. How is this incompetence?
Queen is probably the Commander put in the most unusual situations in the series until now, starting with an Younko landing out of nowhere right in front of him

and that allowed more betrayal from the beast pirates. because of that they'll lose this war lol. its just PIS from oda though tbf

 

[Peroroncino]

Im downplaying King cuz the agenda here is making King look awesome and Queen look bad, im making the counterpoint that things are quite not that way.

It was needed X-Drake, Zoro, Chopper, Hyogoro and Marco working together to stop Queen's plagues from killing everybody. How is this incompetence?
Queen is probably the Commander put in the most unusual situations in the series until now, starting with an Younko landing out of nowhere right in front of him

no need for agenda to make queen look bad

 

[Julius]

big mom knew both king and queen by name. but stilll she asked only one of them to join her crew.
even though king is of a different race and queen is a cyborg we all know bigmom loves cyborgs since she wanted to collect franky as well.

spoiler alert : it isnt queen.

Maybe thats because Queen and Big Mom trashtalk each other since they met?
Queen got pissed during Onigashima cuz Big Mom can't stop eating his food, and thats since Udon

Big Mom asking King to join her crew is all about his race (although we don't know what it means until now), and as you can see she is handcuffed (until Kaido's henchmen take it out as Kaido asked)

 

[Sir Yasheen]

big mom knew both king and queen by name. but stilll she asked only one of them to join her crew.
even though king is of a different race and queen is a cyborg we all know bigmom loves cyborgs since she wanted to collect franky as well.

spoiler alert : it isnt queen.

Post automatically merged: Aug 5, 2021

queen knew luffy & kidd and the lot were not bound by the neck cuffs nor seastone. IMO he shouldnt have run the entire sumo inferno in the first place. and then abandoning it entirely with just babanuki incharge is another fuck up/PIS

That's fair, but personally, I don't blame Queen on this...
Kid was wearing seastone until Queen left, and a lot of this has a lot of plot magic. Queen assessed the situation and (correctly) figured that Big Mom was a much bigger threat and did away with this threat.
Delivering an emperor of the sea rather than relying on underlings to do that made sense. The samurai were broken and jailors all had his plague bullets to put down riots.
All was fine except Queen had no clue that chopper and tama were there. The idea that someone can heal queens plagues in such a short time is unthinkable, same with someone who can tame the gifters.
Queen didn't know that the two people who can shut down his prison were in the prison, I wouldn't blame him for that.

And they're both equally incompetent imo. Jack has been by far the most competent.

 

[Black hair]

Daily reminder that Queen was scared shitless of big mom while King was not afraid of her and her entire crew put together

Its already begin. From zoro can one shot king to king didnt scared of bigmom pirates, king strength is in par with bigmom etc

THE NEW AGENDA BEGINNNNN

 

[Julius]

Its already begin. From zoro can one shot king to king didnt scared of bigmom pirates, king strength is in par with bigmom etc

THE NEW AGENDA BEGINNNNN

"Zoro wont leave the rooftop to fight facking Calamities"

 

[Peroroncino]

Its already begin. From zoro can one shot king to king didnt scared of bigmom pirates, king strength is in par with bigmom etc

THE NEW AGENDA BEGINNNNN

king is stronger than big mom don't forget it, you candies said that yourselves

 

[ConquistadoR]

And they're both equally incompetent imo. Jack has been by far the most competent.

nah i think king > queen > jack here but they all are garbage.

king summoned the tobi roppo knowing kaidos problems and planned ahead. he also went in and handled the Big Mom pirates with ease. also until marco came and dragged him and queen away nobody went upstairs. apart from this he also responded and sent sanji crashing when he saved momonosuke. queen didnt do nothing then.

jack however has been doing nothing but take Ls. from trying to save mingo, zou, against ashura doji, against the minks at the rooftop, trying to kill the scabbards downstairs. he has messed up everything imo.

 

[iwaddaread]

Can't wait for King's 1.330b bounty to be revealed. What a riot that will cause. :laughmoji:

 

[Peroroncino]

Can't wait for King's 1.330b bounty to be revealed. What a riot that will cause. :laughmoji:

king's bounty could be smaller than queen's and that wouldn't change anything

 

[ConquistadoR]

Its already begin. From zoro can one shot king to king didnt scared of bigmom pirates, king strength is in par with bigmom etc

THE NEW AGENDA BEGINNNNN

who said new agenda? it is a very old widely accepted fact between zoro and sanji fans

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/king-is-the-strongest-and-most-competent-yc1.11651/

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ly-strong-if-not-stronger-than-big-mom.12852/

 

[Black hair]

who said new agenda? it is a very old widely accepted fact between zoro and sanji fans

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/king-is-the-strongest-and-most-competent-yc1.11651/

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ly-strong-if-not-stronger-than-big-mom.12852/

Theres a level among sanji fans which zoro fans didnt have because mostly are idiots.

but who TF accepted the theory that king is as strong or stronger than bigmom?

Are u among zoro fans that accept it?