Should MonsterZoro be banned?


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Zoro didn't fall from Killer but from hunger/stomach problems. There is a difference. That was why Zoro's stomach made the same noise Luffy's stomach made when he passed out. That was after all fighting was over meaning he wasn't going to allow his stomach to interfere with the battles.


It doesn't matter how you look at it Killer didn't knock Zoro out.

Zoro was nerfed too. He only has 2 swords and didn't use any name attack until after he grabbed the scythe. The fact he put the scythe to better us than Killer shows us the difference between them. Zoro could have ended the battle sooner if he would have used a name attack earlier.

Oda used that battle to hype Zoro and Killer. Killer hype came from fighting even with Zoro, while using 2 swords not two sword style, in CQC for a while with scythes. Zoro hype came from fighting and beating Killer and Fox at the same time with 2 swords, quickly adapting the scythe to his fighting style and blitz and oneshot Killer with the scythe with a name attack. Later on informing us the fight results would have been the same even if Killer had his punisher blades.

I believe the same thing will happen with King and it's the reason Zoro fought Kaido and Big Mom on the roof first. Oda wanted to hype up Zoro with them and give us a better understanding of his strength. He will now use those 2 to hype up each other. King hype will come from fighting Zoro and not being easily defeated. It wouldn't be a low difficult battle. Zoro hype will come from improving his CoC during the battle and beating King without being pushed to his highest level.
Which one does Zoro match, both in story and out of story?

Food poisoning
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/food-poisoning/

Symptoms of food poisoning include:

  • feeling sick (nausea)
  • diarrhoea
  • being sick (vomiting)
  • stomach cramps
  • a high temperature of 38C or above
  • feeling generally unwell – such as feeling tired or having aches and chills

Blood Loss

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-much-blood-can-you-lose#shock

Hemorrhagic, or hypovolemic, shock occurs when you’ve lost 20 percent or more of your total blood volume. Your symptoms will become more severe as the blood loss increases.

You may experience:

  • rapid breathing
  • weakness or fatigue
  • confusion
  • cool, pale skin
  • sweaty, moist skin
  • anxiety or unease
  • low urine output
  • drowsiness
  • unconsciousness
 
Luffy's bones don't break
Gear 4 and god thread are DF abilities

Zoro is base natural human.
Broken bones will extremely limit attack power, just take sanji for example, he couldn't stand the shock of his kicks with few broken ribs, and immidiatly fell down when he broke his leg vs kuma...
Zoro can be base human but this is one piece. Like swords can cut mountains realistically but somehow that is not an issue in one piece. Half melted human WB can put Akainu and destroy Marineford but normally he should be dead when his face was melted half. Only thing that got affected was his health and his stamina. Not his attack power. And Sanji broke his leg against Bergo but able to run in punk hazard without any treatment. Lightening should kill people or atleast burnt them but somehow so called base human Zoro was just fine.
 
Just following up on a lot of conversation from last night, but I am surprised a lot of people here are upset with the idea of any Tobi Roppo getting up. A lot of people were clowning on them when Jinbe/Franky had defeated the alleged strongest in roughly a chapter, is its interesting that the idea that they get more to do against their respective opponents (or others, who knows) is not as liked here lol.

I get that we all want to see Zoro and Sanji fight. I get that finishing this arc is high priority for some. But we are in this deep, the arc is a 113 chapters with no signs of being close to finishing. In the long run, we'd get better portrayals of the villains (TR) and more opportunities for Strawhat growth.

There's also the fact that we don't really know what it means. Could be 1 TR acting weird, 2, or all 5. I'd say wait until we know the context of what it all means relative to the chapter first, then see how many are affected by it. With that we can then set our expectations for the next ~5-10 chapters if things are obvious
 
Your insult is so terrible can you come up with a better one PLEASEEEEEEE, not for me but for the people of this forum. They should not have to subjegate themselves to reading such poorly executed insults.

2nd

I can make the poll which question you want to ask the people. You can pick one of 5 and we can continue the convo there

Did Doffy really beat Sanji
Did Doffy have a difficult time vs Sanji
Did Doffy only beat Sanji because Sanji was at a major disadvantage being in the air
Did Doffy only beat Sanji because Sanji had no previous knowledge of how Doflamingo's devil fruit worked
Did Doffy only beat Sanji because Sanji was cheapshotted with Parasite

5 options. You pick ill post a yes or no poll to show the disparity
It doesn't matter what you, a self proclaimed Sanji hater and your Zolo gang thinks about what the manga makes pretty clear, people who can't even read things properly it's pure clownery. Just imagine Zoro in the same situation as Sanji LoL, Sanji was the first dude to fight Doflamingo in the air in complete disadvantage, Doflamingo needed to use 3 of his arguably most broken abilities not Awakening included to stop Sanji and we don't know how it would end cuz Sanji was fine after "Goshikito" and Law teleported him because of "Parasite". You probably think Zoro would do much better in a situation like that right because Zoro is incomparable to Sanji right?
 
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Just following up on a lot of conversation from last night, but I am surprised a lot of people here are upset with the idea of any Tobi Roppo getting up. A lot of people were clowning on them when Jinbe/Franky had defeated the alleged strongest in roughly a chapter, is its interesting that the idea that they get more to do against their respective opponents (or others, who knows) is not as liked here lol.

I get that we all want to see Zoro and Sanji fight. I get that finishing this arc is high priority for some. But we are in this deep, the arc is a 113 chapters with no signs of being close to finishing. In the long run, we'd get better portrayals of the villains (TR) and more opportunities for Strawhat growth.

There's also the fact that we don't really know what it means. Could be 1 TR acting weird, 2, or all 5. I'd say wait until we know the context of what it all means relative to the chapter first, then see how many are affected by it. With that we can then set our expectations for the next ~5-10 chapters if things are obvious
It’s likely that it’s going to be one of the Tobi Roppo getting up. Mr. 2 did the same thing in Alabasta but he didn’t come back to fight the straw hats.
 
Zoro didn't fall from Killer but from hunger/stomach problems. There is a difference. That was why Zoro's stomach made the same noise Luffy's stomach made when he passed out. That was after all fighting was over meaning he wasn't going to allow his stomach to interfere with the battles.


It doesn't matter how you look at it Killer didn't knock Zoro out.

Zoro was nerfed too. He only has 2 swords and didn't use any name attack until after he grabbed the scythe. The fact he put the scythe to better us than Killer shows us the difference between them. Zoro could have ended the battle sooner if he would have used a name attack earlier.

Oda used that battle to hype Zoro and Killer. Killer hype came from fighting even with Zoro, while using 2 swords not two sword style, in CQC for a while with scythes. Zoro hype came from fighting and beating Killer and Fox at the same time with 2 swords, quickly adapting the scythe to his fighting style and blitz and oneshot Killer with the scythe with a name attack. Later on informing us the fight results would have been the same even if Killer had his punisher blades.

I believe the same thing will happen with King and it's the reason Zoro fought Kaido and Big Mom on the roof first. Oda wanted to hype up Zoro with them and give us a better understanding of his strength. He will now use those 2 to hype up each other. King hype will come from fighting Zoro and not being easily defeated. It wouldn't be a low difficult battle. Zoro hype will come from improving his CoC during the battle and beating King without being pushed to his highest level.
Zoro has fight most of the main character so far
1. Luffy
2. Sanji
3. Buggy
4. Mihawk
5. Hawkins
6. Killer
7. X drake
8. Apoo
9. Kaido
10. King
 
Zoro was the MVP at the roof top.

- Big Mom warning Kaido about Zoro
- Zoro stalling Hakai and saving everyone's ass
- Zoro scarring Kaido and making him shake

Let Luffy accomplish similar before asking Sanji to do it.
Sanji would’ve been a far better fit than green guy on the roof

Plus BM warned kaido about Oden’s magic sword which saved green guy
 
Imagine still claiming they are equal because of they are standing together. Where was sanji when rooftop happened?? All the strongest were there and oda didn't give a fuck about sanji because he is not important for the next generation. Sanji is important for luffy only. While Zoro gonna lead the next generation. Portrayal checked.

Zoro tanked an attack from two yonkou, didn't faint and made a permanent scar to the world strongest creature that only oden succeeded when the opworld and all the legends kaido faced failed.
And at the end, Zkk can happen too.
What about sanji ? Oh yeah got completely dominated by King first round and now spoilers said he fainted after an attack of two yc. Feats checked.

Zoro and Sanji strenght is like day and night.
First understand, standing, smiling, talking together don't mean they are equal ...
Oda showed sanji hesitating between going to the roof or helping momo, that's literally saying "he's rooftop level, but he'll go help those on the other floors"
 
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