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No they're not worth their bounties. Funny how you think these bums are worth that much but Drake who's stronger than both isn't worth 700m.
Reminder that Oda said Yonko commanders all had inflated bounties. So no Pero and Izou aren't actually worth that much
Captain Izo would be around 200m at best, he's Bartolomeo level at max
Reminder that Oda said Yonko commanders all had inflated bounties. So no Pero and Izou aren't actually worth that much
Captain Izo would be around 200m at best, he's Bartolomeo level at max
Is Drake stronger than Izo and Perospero?
Drake seemed on par with Apoo, who was worth 350 million.
Izo was a guy who actually managed to damage Kaido with his attacks and disarmed someone like King.
Perospero also seems pretty strong, overpowering someone like Pedro, whose bounty was 382 million, with ease.
Both those bounties don't seem unwarranted to me.
Anyway, Drake and Flying six should definitely be in the 300 to 400 mil range at least.
Kidd was the highest worst generation bounty we saw and was 470 mil. So I could see it being around that.
Drake seemed on par with Apoo, who was worth 350 million.
Izo was a guy who actually managed to damage Kaido with his attacks and disarmed someone like King.
Perospero also seems pretty strong, overpowering someone like Pedro, whose bounty was 382 million, with ease.
Both those bounties don't seem unwarranted to me.
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Anyway, Drake and Flying six should definitely be in the 300 to 400 mil range at least.
Kidd was the highest worst generation bounty we saw and was 470 mil. So I could see it being around that.
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Of course he is.
Izou was WB's 16th division commander and sure as fuck wasn't highlighted as a top 4 commander when Marco Ace Jozu and Vista exist. Even Curiel received superior portrayal when he 1v1'd Moria
Izou is around Black Maria/Sasaki level, which means he'd lose to Franky or Robin. Needless to say Drake would body these two.
Apoo is stronger than Izou and Perospero
And Apoo's bounty is NOT inflated by joining a Yonko crew. No one knows he was in.
So what? Kinemon's fodder ass who spent all of DR going "NANIIIIII????" at Zoro's and Luffy's feats could damage Kaido. That's not a proof of strength
Almost lost to Carott and Wanda. Got lucky that the moon was covered
Jack would wash Pero but using your logic Drake scales to Zoro and G4 Luffy lmao
Izou was WB's 16th division commander and sure as fuck wasn't highlighted as a top 4 commander when Marco Ace Jozu and Vista exist. Even Curiel received superior portrayal when he 1v1'd Moria
Izou is around Black Maria/Sasaki level, which means he'd lose to Franky or Robin. Needless to say Drake would body these two.
Apoo is stronger than Izou and Perospero
And Apoo's bounty is NOT inflated by joining a Yonko crew. No one knows he was in.
So what? Kinemon's fodder ass who spent all of DR going "NANIIIIII????" at Zoro's and Luffy's feats could damage Kaido. That's not a proof of strength
Almost lost to Carott and Wanda. Got lucky that the moon was covered
Jack would wash Pero but using your logic Drake scales to Zoro and G4 Luffy lmao
I mean, arguing that Izo is on the level of the flying six, when Drake is a member of the flying six, isn't the best argument for suggesting that Drake is vastly above Izo.
Nah, Apoo is maybe stronger than Izou. Maybe. But I don't see how he's stronger than Perospero.
Guys like Oven, Bege, Daifuku, Pekoms and Tamago who were all elites in an emperors crew only ended up with bounties of 300-429 million. For most pirates, I don't think its wildly inflated.
He was a guy who managed to damage Kaido, has 20 years more experience than Kinemon, and was a member of Whitebeard's crew.
Yeah, but thats more to show that sulong is really strong as opposed to suggesting that Perospero is weak.
Jack would wash Peros. Perospero isn't a push over. He was able to immobilize something like Big Father effortlessly while also making stupidly large structures pretty much instanteously.
Nah, Apoo is maybe stronger than Izou. Maybe. But I don't see how he's stronger than Perospero.
Guys like Oven, Bege, Daifuku, Pekoms and Tamago who were all elites in an emperors crew only ended up with bounties of 300-429 million. For most pirates, I don't think its wildly inflated.
He was a guy who managed to damage Kaido, has 20 years more experience than Kinemon, and was a member of Whitebeard's crew.
Yeah, but thats more to show that sulong is really strong as opposed to suggesting that Perospero is weak.
Jack would wash Peros. Perospero isn't a push over. He was able to immobilize something like Big Father effortlessly while also making stupidly large structures pretty much instanteously.
The thing is
-we know that The Calamities have higher bounties than their BMP counterparts regardless of Powerlevels, so why would the Flying Six have smaller bounties than their BMP counterparts?
-Usopp has a 200M Bounty, And I doubt Page One who most likely has the smallest F6 bounty has a smaller Bounty
- in a similar way, I doubt Jinbei had a Bigger bounty than Who's Who pre Wano
-The Gap between Franky and Luffy's bounties in EL and Dressrossa hints that Post Wano Franky might have 600+M depending on if Luffy's bounty surpasses Kaido's which is very possible
-we know that The Calamities have higher bounties than their BMP counterparts regardless of Powerlevels, so why would the Flying Six have smaller bounties than their BMP counterparts?
-Usopp has a 200M Bounty, And I doubt Page One who most likely has the smallest F6 bounty has a smaller Bounty
- in a similar way, I doubt Jinbei had a Bigger bounty than Who's Who pre Wano
-The Gap between Franky and Luffy's bounties in EL and Dressrossa hints that Post Wano Franky might have 600+M depending on if Luffy's bounty surpasses Kaido's which is very possible
I like the theory that the bounties of the Tobi Roppo will be based on their perspective game:
Sasaki - 544 million (Sasa means 44)
Who’s who - 540 million (52 cards + 2 jokers used in the game)
Ulti - 532 Million (32 cards in play)
Page One - 530 million (52 cards + 1 joker used)
Black Maria - 510 million (51 cards used)
Drake 510 million (name means ten)
Sasaki - 544 million (Sasa means 44)
Who’s who - 540 million (52 cards + 2 jokers used in the game)
Ulti - 532 Million (32 cards in play)
Page One - 530 million (52 cards + 1 joker used)
Black Maria - 510 million (51 cards used)
Drake 510 million (name means ten)
Usopp's 200 mil bounty is a joke anyway
As for Calamities having higher bounties than SC - sure can work as an argument but again I am just saying don't jump the gun, we saw this backfire when people had Marco's bounty over 1.5 bil, 2 bil.
They may have high bounties or not. Anywhere from 200 mil to 700 mil is the safest range for now.
Really doubt ALL of them are at the 500 milions lol
As for Calamities having higher bounties than SC - sure can work as an argument but again I am just saying don't jump the gun, we saw this backfire when people had Marco's bounty over 1.5 bil, 2 bil.
They may have high bounties or not. Anywhere from 200 mil to 700 mil is the safest range for now.
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Really doubt ALL of them are at the 500 milions lol
Imo Yonkotards are damage controling the LobiLoppos bounties
If they're low they can justify them losing to Robin/Franky mid diff easier and claim LeroLpero, Lacker and Lack are hot shit ad well as wank Izou and the scabbards to make Kaido look good
Whereas if Drake/WsW have a 700m+ bouny and Sasaki/BM a 500m+ one then it becomes obvious that Scabbards are Brook level and YC3s are barely better
If they're low they can justify them losing to Robin/Franky mid diff easier and claim LeroLpero, Lacker and Lack are hot shit ad well as wank Izou and the scabbards to make Kaido look good
Whereas if Drake/WsW have a 700m+ bouny and Sasaki/BM a 500m+ one then it becomes obvious that Scabbards are Brook level and YC3s are barely better
TBF, Kinemon is only a bit above Brook level(based on Punk Hazard).
Kyoshiro is definitely pretty strong based on the fact he was able to give two sword style Zoro a moderately hard time(which I think is a bit above Brook level).
I don't expect the bounties for them to be very high. Like, we had a huge song and dance over Oven and Daifuku's bounties, and even Mont'dor's, and they all turned out to be in the range of pre time skip bounties.
Kyoshiro is definitely pretty strong based on the fact he was able to give two sword style Zoro a moderately hard time(which I think is a bit above Brook level).
I don't expect the bounties for them to be very high. Like, we had a huge song and dance over Oven and Daifuku's bounties, and even Mont'dor's, and they all turned out to be in the range of pre time skip bounties.