Current Events A Decade of Zoro Propaganda Down the Toilet-How Zoro Himself Destroyed the Swordsmen Narrative

#82
what about zoro vs cabaji? zoro punched cabaji and kicked him
cabaji himself said he s aswordsman and it would be a honor to take zoro down
+ he used fire and kicks + beyblades
kuro chan on damage controL?
Cabaji's a clown tho, he earned neither Zoro nor our respect as a swordsman :milaugh:
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#83
That was already clear enough.

This doesn't mean that Mihawk is not stronger than Shanks or else why would he state that he is waiting for a swordmaster to specifically surpass even him after all.

Unless he was a coward referring to surpass him in swordsmanship only or a fool underestimating Shanks to such extent.
Another thing also.

Current Zoro has relentlessly proven to likely stand on yonko level and Mihawk is still likely ages away.
An intriguing notion is also like other users were suggesting Oda still classifying both Law and Fuji as swordsmen.

That means that in general if you have swordsmanship at least you are still defined as one.

So Shanks is certainly one.
For the series how to bust deniers in just merely 3 posts.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#86
Except this isn’t in any way proven, because not once has Fujitora ever fought without his sword. His entire fighting style is called “Gravity Blade”, why would you think he can fight without the blade? The two are equal in importance to how Fujitora fights.
Unless Fujitora needs his sword to summon meteors, lift countries above his head, Fire gravity pulses, etc. then he by definition does not need his sword in combat.

And even if his sword did eat the fruit, he’s still not using swordsmanship but gravity and thus definitionally is not a swordsman as classified by Zoro.
 
#92
So it’s not really a surprise to anybody outside of sword swallowers, but King just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Oda does not view the term “swordsman” as being as simplistic as “anybody who uses a Sword in combat:




I suppose the beautiful irony in this is that King actually didn’t say anything about not being a Swordsman, Zoro himself did as Zoro clearly states that wielding a sword does not make one a swordsman.

All these years of “Fujitora is a Swordsman because he carried a sword”…debunked by Zoro himself.

All these years of “Whitebeard himself is beneath Mihawk because Oda considers his Bisento a Sword”…debunked by Zoro himself.

All these years of “Ryuma over Roger because Roger has a Sword”…debunked by Zoro himself.

You see, even Zoro fans themselves knew that Oda never viewed a Swordsman as just any person to carry a Sword, but for years they have tried to argue that there is no canonical basis for characters who wield swords not being Swordsman. No longer, as Zoro acknowledges that King himself is not a Swordsman despite wielding a sword as his primary weapon lol.

You can wield a sword and not be a swordsman. You can wield a sword and still be stronger than Mihawk. You can wield a Sword and that doesn’t mean you’ll be weaker than EOS Zoro.

Mihawk’s Title of “World’s Strongest Swordsman”, LITERALLY means that he has the strongest Swordsmanship in the world, not that he is stronger than every character who carries a Sword.

We have all known this for years, Zoro fans themselves have known this for years, but now they no longer have any canonical basis for the spreading of their propaganda.

The war is over. But Mihawk is still stronger than Shanks.

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So you tag me to say that Stephen Paul was wrong about Mihawk's title as well? Did you even know what Stephen Paul was saying you troll? :vistalaugh:

Also all of your post is garbage as soon as your hypocrite mouth still saying Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.

Literally nothing puts Mihawk above Shanks as you just admitted holding a sword doesn't make one a swordsman. And Mihawk’s title is only for traditional forms and techniques.

-Shanks and Mihawk fought minimum 12 years before (could be older) there was no winner Mihawk didn't want to fight Shanks again after Shanks loses his arm 12 years before.

-Shanks becomes Yonko 6 years before. Considering how Luffy become fifth Yonko and how BB established himself as Yonko. Shanks too did something impressive 6 years before being a Yonko like they did.

-Mihawk knew this and making an excuse about Shanks's arm when he knew Shanks become stronger after losing his arm and even before that Mihawk still didn't even beat Pre-Yonko Shanks.

So how Mihawk is stronger than Shanks you troll explain. :vistalaugh:
 
H

Haoshoku

#93
All these years of “Fujitora is a Swordsman because he carried a sword”
Except Fujitora was referred to as the blind swordsman, in the official canon:

And there hasn’t been a moment where he’s been in direct combat without his sword being utilized. So he’s a swordsman through and through.

Though yeah this chapter did set the record straight in regards to how certain characters aren’t swordsmen in the same vein as a Zoro, Vista or Mihawk. You could argue this was implied the moment Roger was shown carrying around a blade.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#94
So you tag me to say that Stephen Paul was wrong about Mihawk's title as well? Did you even know what Stephen Paul was saying you troll?
Stephen Paul was exactly correct, he correctly bodied you in saying Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, not the greatest as you were desperately insinuating.

And Mihawk is stronger than all real swordsmen like Shanks, but he is weaker than non-swordsman who carry swords like Fujitora.
 
#95
So you tag me to say that Stephen Paul was wrong about Mihawk's title as well? Did you even know what Stephen Paul was saying you troll? :vistalaugh:

Also all of your post is garbage as soon as your hypocrite mouth still saying Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.

Literally nothing puts Mihawk above Shanks as you just admitted holding a sword doesn't make one a swordsman. And Mihawk’s title is only for traditional forms and techniques.

-Shanks and Mihawk fought minimum 12 years before (could be older) there was no winner Mihawk didn't want to fight Shanks again after Shanks loses his arm 12 years before.
-Shanks becomes Yonko 6 years before. Considering how Luffy become fifth Yonko and how BB established himself as Yonko. Shanks too did something impressive 6 years before being a Yonko like they did.
-Mihawk knew this and making an excuse about Shanks's arm when he knew Shanks become stronger after losing his arm and even before that Mihawk still didn't even beat Shanks.

So how Mihawk is stronger than Shanks you troll explain. :vistalaugh:
is zoro stronger than mihawk rn because he gonna beat king
and mihawk post poned against vista? :catblush:
 
#98
buddy zoro said i can t lose to those who call themselves swordsmen against cabaji :smoothieduck:
why u go the 1+1=3 route
Aight i checked on that.

Zoro hits him with the hilt of the sword he never punches him, and he fights only with his swords because Cabaji calls himself a swordsman :kayneshrug:

Basically Zoro would entertain clowns if they call themselves swordsmen, but also accept that not every sword user considers himself a swordsman, which was the case with King :goyea:
 
#99
Aight i checked on that.

Zoro hits him with the hilt of the sword he never punches him, and he fights only with his swords because Cabaji calls himself a swordsman :kayneshrug:

Basically Zoro would entertain clowns if they call themselves swordsmen, but also accept that not every sword user considers himself a swordsman, which was the case with King :goyea:
story already showed zoro will go to any lenghts to win
swordsman or not :kayneshrug:
 
Stephen Paul was exactly correct, he correctly bodied you in saying Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, not the greatest as you were desperately insinuating.

And Mihawk is stronger than all real swordsmen like Shanks, but he is weaker than non-swordsman who carry swords like Fujitora.
Stupid admiral lee dick apparently not in the course that Fujitora is a swordsman on a card from a databook. Shanks is the emperor. All you have to do is hope that Fujitora and Mihawk together can push Shanks to a high diff.
 
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