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Marco is visibly damaged. Queen wouldn't assume Marco of all people died from exhaustion, would he? Marco hit his limit because they pressured him that much. He doesn't lose any stamina just for flying around, does he?
He has taken damage, but there is no way he's sustained the amount of damage required to put down someone of his caliber. We are talking high end terrain altering attacks, in order to do that. This is the man who fought against Gura/Yami Blackbeard in a full blown war. Marco wasn't KOed here. His body simply refuses to continue, and that's definitely not solely because of accumulated damage. There is no reason for Oda to go out of his way to explain the process of Marco's DF having limits, and exhausting him, and then have him continuously use said ability for about an hour, if it's not meant to be a factor in Marco's current condition of being unable to move.
 

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He has taken damage, but there is no way he's sustained the amount of damage required to put down someone of his caliber. We are talking high end terrain altering attacks, in order to do that. This is the man who fought against Gura/Yami Blackbeard in a full blown war. Marco wasn't KOed here. His body simply refuses to continue, and that's definitely not solely because of accumulated damage. There is no reason for Oda to go out of his way to explain the process of Marco's DF having limits, and exhausting him, and then have him use said ability for over an hour, if it's not meant to be a factor in Marco's current condition of being unable to move.
I agree Marco isn't down wholly due to the damage done to him. I doubt only island busters can put him down, I mean King's attacks seemed to be working well on him despite his regeneration. He also fought on par with Marco's strongest form in base meaning he can actually fight at a higher level than even Marco. King is fully capable of taking down Marco, but he ain't beating him with 100 HP so easily.
 
Lmao, you Z-boys sure do love to fill in off-panels with your own biased interpretations of how you believe the scenes went down, and of course it's filled with nothing but delusion on how to make Zoro look better by any means.

Was Marco, or was he not using his healing ability to keep Queens virus at bay?

Did Oda or did he not explicitly state that Marco's healing abilities have a limit?
What? Queens virus did fuck all to Marco, he healed everyone on top of himself
Wtf are you on about
There was nothing to fill off panel, Queen was held back by Chopper and sanji and in the meantime Base King low or mid diffed Marco
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He has taken damage, but there is no way he's sustained the amount of damage required to put down someone of his caliber. We are talking high end terrain altering attacks, in order to do that. This is the man who fought against Gura/Yami Blackbeard in a full blown war. Marco wasn't KOed here. His body simply refuses to continue, and that's definitely not solely because of accumulated damage. There is no reason for Oda to go out of his way to explain the process of Marco's DF having limits, and exhausting him, and then have him continuously use said ability for about an hour, if it's not meant to be a factor in Marco's current condition of being unable to move.
King massacred Marco and his stamima for regeneration reached its limit before he could regenerate from all the damage King did as he still had damage remaining on him

That's the only way to defeat Marco
What Admirals and Garp together failed to do base King did it alone.
King > Admirals @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
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Any top tier right now defeats Zoro 1v1 Shishio lol. The fact that he is relegated to fighting King is proof of that. And when Zoro defeats King, he will just then be entering the top tier, still beneath every top tier outside of the old legends like Rayleigh and co, with whom he’ll be equal to. By EOS, Zoro will be lucky to defeat any admiral 1v1.
And what feats do Fujitora have to defeat King??
 
It's exactly how some Zoro fans define a Swordsman. You even have people who claim "MIhawk > Roger" because Mihawk holds the title of WSS, while Roger didn't during his era.

What proves Roger is a Swordsman? Nothing.... But by proxy Mihawk > Roger just cause Roger carries a Sword and uses it to fight. They aren't even in the same era, and yet this ridiculous claim has been made many of times, all because "Roger uses a Sword."

Now there are some Zoro fans who do not define anyone who uses a Sword as a Swordsman, but the vocal minority tend to be on the opposite end of that spectrum.
Roger is THE PUREST Swordsman in One Piece history
Why would he be stronger than Mihawk?
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What feats does Imu have to defeat Mont D Or?
Fujitora doesn't have feats nor portrayal nor hype to defeat YC1++ character like King who soloed Marco in base form in 30 minutes something all 3 admirals together failed to do.
 
Roger is THE PUREST Swordsman in One Piece history
Why would he be stronger than Mihawk?
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Fujitora doesn't have feats nor portrayal nor hype to defeat YC1++ character like King who soloed Marco in base form in 30 minutes something all 3 admirals together failed to do.
fuji failed to beat sabo someone weaker than marco
base king beat marco 1v1 easy:milaugh:
 
1) Roger is a swordsman, unless otherwise disproved later on in the story, by having him fighting bare-fist a lot of times.

2) Roger as a swordsman doesn't make mihawk stronger than roger. By the time mihawk has reached peak status, roger has already long passed away. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman of his time, not Roger's time. Roger can be stronger than mihawk, but mihawk can also be stronger. Nothing definitive can be inferred.
 
On a serious note, it's true that everyone who uses a sword in battle effectively, is a swordsman. King doesn't call himself swordsman because he doesn't want to identify with a particular style, but swordsmanship is part of his arsenal.

That being said, we can however argue, which swordsmen the WSS title encompasses. And I would argue, not all of them. In the One Piece world, 99% of the people use weapons, because a weapon is in most cases a powerup, as it makes you stronger than with bare fists. A sword is often simply a weapon of choice. Big Mom's signature move, Spear of Elbaf, was performed with an axe too. Hakai was even used with a club. Whitebeard's weapon of choice happened to be a Bisento.

If swordsmanship just adds up to your versatility and is just a side power, I would not consider the WSS title to encompass him. People I think of are Fujitora, Kizaru and Big Mom. The sword is just their side power. Yes, Fujitora was called a swordsman, and he surely has great skill, but his gravity fruit boosts his power far beyond that. Same with Kizaru and Big Mom, who is a natural born destroyer who punches, uses Homies and creates storms. She could use an axe and would be just as effective.

But if swordsmanship is your main and most powerful asset, you are encompassed by the WSS title. It doesn't matter whether Roger used a gun, because his swordsmanship, which can also be enhanced by CoA and CoC, far outclasses a gun. Haki is just supplementary.
 
Fuji was called sword user in the volume box in raws, now we know the difference from sword user and swordsmen
He was called a blind Swordsman
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On a serious note, it's true that everyone who uses a sword in battle effectively, is a swordsman. King doesn't call himself swordsman because he doesn't want to identify with a particular style, but swordsmanship is part of his arsenal.

That being said, we can however argue, which swordsmen the WSS title encompasses. And I would argue, not all of them. In the One Piece world, 99% of the people use weapons, because a weapon is in most cases a powerup, as it makes you stronger than with bare fists. A sword is often simply a weapon of choice. Big Mom's signature move, Spear of Elbaf, was performed with an axe too. Hakai was even used with a club. Whitebeard's weapon of choice happened to be a Bisento.

If swordsmanship just adds up to your versatility and is just a side power, I would not consider the WSS title to encompass him. People I think of are Fujitora, Kizaru and Big Mom. The sword is just their side power. Yes, Fujitora was called a swordsman, and he surely has great skill, but his gravity fruit boosts his power far beyond that. Same with Kizaru and Big Mom, who is a natural born destroyer who punches, uses Homies and creates storms. She could use an axe and would be just as effective.

But if swordsmanship is your main and most powerful asset, you are encompassed by the WSS title. It doesn't matter whether Roger used a gun, because his swordsmanship, which can also be enhanced by CoA and CoC, far outclasses a gun. Haki is just supplementary.
You can't include Fuji if he confirmed a Swordsman.
 
It’s funny, because until Zoro started fighting King, you would’ve literally said the opposite and don’t even try to deny it lol.
Until Zoro fought King I won't give a fuck about King about his up play or downplay

But now that he is fighting Zoro, I have to counter act King downplay. Your whole agenda is trying to dismiss Mihawks title to push Admirals > Mihawk agenda, truth be told as long as Mihawk is one of Zoros final opponents he doesn't even need a title to trash any admirals ass.
 
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