Character Discussion Why Sanji is most likely a Lunarian and how long its been foreshadowed......

Can Sanji produce fire on his hands/ create a fireball like King?
He covered his whole body in flames and completely burned a mountain sized giant with one hit, he can choose to cover only his hand on fire, he just doesn't do that because he fights with his leg
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I guess if he truly a Lunarian he didn't yet unlock all his powers after all.
Hell memories is a thing
 
He covered his whole body in flames and completely burned a mountain sized giant with one hit, he can choose to cover only his hand on fire, he just doesn't do that because he fights with his leg
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Hell memories is a thing
So we're just going to throw out the first time he used DJ he needed to spin to create friction

Did it post time skip too
 
So we're just going to throw out the first time he used DJ he needed to spin to create friction

Did it post time skip too
Only in anime fillers, in the manga sanji stopped spinning ever since ennies lobby

And sanji's first diable jambe was also weird, the heat was powerful enough to burn through tekkai but somehow didn't affect him at all and sanji could magically turn it off at will
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
Oda could have just went with the normal upgrades for sanji, give him proper haki and stuff, like Zeff and kamabakaa skills. But he has to be lazy and give him random specific power up with the whole germa plot. :kayneshrug:
Wouldn't give "haki upgrade" like every single character by the "lazy" solution? :choppawhat:
 
Only in anime fillers, in the manga sanji stopped spinning ever since ennies lobby

And sanji's first diable jambe was also weird, the heat was powerful enough to burn through tekkai but somehow didn't affect him at all and sanji could magically turn it off at will
So he went from spinning to create fire to just creating fire on his own, Sanji's DJ is the exact same philosophy as Red Hawk. Friction the create the heat, just beace Oda doesnt spend the extra panels creating it doesnt mean its not happening
 

Lhulu

Tobidara Believer
Wouldn't give "haki upgrade" like every single character by the "lazy" solution? :choppawhat:
CP9 techniques + Okama kenpo + Haki upgrade seems enough for me.

I mean, where's the point of Kamabakka training except his CoA/CoO awakening? Even Gepo became useless after RS, also the next power-up seems to be related to Germa again.

So he went from spinning to create fire to just creating fire on his own, Sanji's DJ is the exact same philosophy as Red Hawk. Friction the create the heat, just beace Oda doesnt spend the extra panels creating it doesnt mean its not happening
Nah, Queen's specific flerting with his flames and this "my body is feeling weird with RS" are not coincidence. He's clearly going to unlock his genes, but that doesn't need to be related to Lunarians.
 

Doggo

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CP9 techniques + Okama kenpo + Haki upgrade seems enough for me.

I mean, where's the point of Kamabakka training except his CoA/CoO awakening? Even Gepo became useless after RS, also the next power-up seems to be related to Germa again.
Rokushiki is already useless anyway.
Magical haki power go brrrr
 
So he went from spinning to create fire to just creating fire on his own, Sanji's DJ is the exact same philosophy as Red Hawk. Friction the create the heat, just beace Oda doesnt spend the extra panels creating it doesnt mean its not happening
What about Hell memories? Dude just bursted into flames out of sheer anger, no friction needed, you can argue that sanji's power might bloom overtime, at first he's just immune to fire and can only control it, then his control over fire becomes more powerful overtime, basically the lunarian puberty lol, that explanation could very easily fix the plot hole
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CP9 techniques + Okama kenpo + Haki upgrade seems enough for me.

I mean, where's the point of Kamabakka training except his CoA/CoO awakening? Even Gepo became useless after RS, also the next power-up seems to be related to Germa again.
The raid suit boosts his Skywalk
 

Lhulu

Tobidara Believer
Rokushiki is already useless anyway.
Magical haki power go brrrr
Rokushiki + Haki isn't useless. Jinbe use his Fishman Karate with Haki:kayneshrug:
I just don't like RS like many others. His drop in popularity in the last poll seems to be an indicative of that as well (I know there are fans who love it).

The raid suit boosts his Skywalk
My point is: if he hadn't learned Gepo during TS, with RS he could still do the same thing.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
So we're just going to throw out the first time he used DJ he needed to spin to create friction

Did it post time skip too
On this one I can concur.

Characters feature mach speeds and Oda doesn't necessarily have to display Sanji moving his leg in a zoomish way in order to generate friction, just like Luffy does it so fast we witness his arm ignite that swiftly like magically but in reality he is likely generating heat since vulcanization requires a certain amount of heat as well. Unless Oda changed the natural process in the manga.

Humans can indeed generate elementary attacks. Luffy needs his DF though. Unless any human can do it without via heat.

But I didn't know Judge's nickname was Garuda, this could change the tables here potentially.
 
What about Hell memories? Dude just bursted into flames out of sheer anger, no friction needed, you can argue that sanji's power might bloom overtime, at first he's just immune to fire and can only control it, then his control over fire becomes more powerful overtime, basically the lunarian puberty lol, that explanation could very easily fix the plot hole
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The raid suit boosts his Skywalk
To answer the question honestly, I dont know

I thought that was a gag scene because he got mad over the person knocking over Nami/Robin

Still doesnt deflect the fact DJ is created by friction and no him produce fire himself like King
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It's like saying Zoro is from the demon god race because he is able to produce 3 heads and 6 arms, but in reality that is his spirit manifestation
 
Rokushiki + Haki isn't useless. Jinbe use his Fishman Karate with Haki:kayneshrug:
I just don't like RS like many others. His drop in popularity in the last poll seems to be an indicative of that as well (I know there are fans who love it).


My point is: if he hadn't learned Gepo during TS, with RS he could still do the same thing.
The raid suit is just there to make him faster, also he might loose it by the end of this arc
 
Rokushiki + Haki isn't useless. Jinbe use his Fishman Karate with Haki:kayneshrug:
I just don't like RS like many others. His drop in popularity in the last poll seems to be an indicative of that as well (I know there are fans who love it).


My point is: if he hadn't learned Gepo during TS, with RS he could still do the same thing.
Sanji is not a haki based fighter, he's elemental. Martial arts and haki combo is not bad, however Sanji cannot utilize martial arts to its full extent do to him not using his hands. Also most commander level charcaters have best of both worlds, Doflamingo has the martial arts skills and the devil fruit abilities, so does katakuri and other 1st commanders. As for Popularity,Nami is likely just a more popular character world wide than Sanji is.
 

Sir Tuna Sandwich II

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
Are Lunarian werwolfs/firbirds/devils/cyborgs/black flames users/kings of All Blue/kings of North Blue/having harems/whatever else the candies made-up for their Sanji fanfics? Because If not Don Le Fishe don't se it, sorry
 
Sanji is not a haki based fighter, he's elemental. Martial arts and haki combo is not bad, however Sanji cannot utilize martial arts to its full extent do to him not using his hands. Also most commander level charcaters have best of both worlds, Doflamingo has the martial arts skills and the devil fruit abilities, so does katakuri and other 1st commanders. As for Popularity,Nami is likely just a more popular character world wide than Sanji is.
sanji is a haki based fighter its just that he uses haki with DJ he's not primarily elemental DJ is a technique that enhances his kick course impact while using basic arnament (not element primarily) .. he can very well coat his legs and harden them and use fire over them and fight but he chooses not to.. but uses common invisible arnament..

the recent Coverpage he has his leg hardened and using DJ over them


compare this to sanji just using common arnment or nome at all with DJ






and btw martial arts are of different types, leg martial arts is also a thing and some of them are Taekwondo and Capoeira it involves some of Muay thai as well
so sanji is a leg only.. and he has already put maneuved Vergo who is a martial artist himself who uses both hand and legs when the latter couldn't even once .. so leg martial arts is his cup of tea and level of skill is also a thing.
 
All germa siblings use elemental attacks. Thats their theme.
Reiju= poison
Ichigi= light energy
Niji= electricity
Sanji= fire
Yonji= rubber abilities

Its obviously bc of their genetic modifications. Now did judge implant lunarian dna in sanji or found some other way? We dont know. In any case Sanji isnt of Lunarian heritage, and therefore HE ISNT AN ACTUAL LUNARIAN.
 
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