Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1028 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

No its not irrelevant not at all the trade off between the two blades is enma can get stronger becoming a black blade and surpassing shusui becoming a supreme grade sword which shusui can never become (chapter 955 hitetsu tells zoro enma can be forged into a black blade and raise its rank to supreme grade) zoro said once i have gotten used to the sword ill be stronger we can assume getting used to has to mean making enma a black blade otherwise its no more powerful than shusui in the same rank which should be the superior blade because it is black(chapter 955) at the end of the day unless oda is dumb shusui is the superior blade in the rank of 21 great grade swords its stronger than enma because its a black blade but because enma is in the same rank as shusui but it isnt a black blade it has the potential to be much stronger

Well Enma is a sword who attacks with CoC and her pushs latent CoC in the user and are more powerfull than a fully Attack from a Black blade.

Well if Enma becomes black blade and she will jump the rank and becomes a Saijo, right? If her becomes a Saijo while becomes black Blade, so Shisui was one of the 42 grade sword who got black blade and becomes 21 great grade.

Shisui is a powerfull sword and a Black Blade,but Enma and even Ame no Habakiri could be more powerfull.

 

[BringMeLeThanos]

You mean this?

This implies means Oden's soul makes Enma stronger than what it normally is. Which only supports that Enma as a whole is already more potent than Shisui, and it isnt even a black blade yet like Shisui is.

He is talking about spiritually, he is talking about taking on someone else will. Not literal power. Also why tf Oda would lie about Enma then. You gonna argue with Oda now ? Damn Sanji fans are really getting cocky now

 

[Peroroncino]

You mean this?

This implies means Oden's soul makes Enma stronger than what it normally is. Which only supports that Enma as a whole is already more potent than Shisui, and it isnt even a black blade yet like Shisui is.

indeed,but he is speaking metaphorically like yamato saying luffy is carrying their burdens in his back a samurai also carries the burdens of the previous owner which in this case is going against kaido ,once again nothing about haki and yet all zoro haters talk about is ''oden's haki

'' with not one panel in the manga to support it

 

[Finalbeta]

Fixed

I can't suggest you are not being optimistic.

 

[BringMeLeThanos]

And Zoro is nothing without Mihawk’s training. Cant be WSS without learning the cheat codes

He was already a strong character. Unlike Sanji lmfao enjoy the burn dude

 

[Luffy D. Goat]

Hi everyone i'm new here, i just want to say i don't think this development ruins Sanji at all, if anything the irony that Sanji ended up being the super soldier that Judge had wet dreams about but still mantained his emotions is the biggest fuck you to Judge's views on emotions being a weakness and a fuck you to his idiology as a whole, with this move Oda completely destroyed Judge's world view, it's gonna be really intresting the aftermath of all of this.

 

[ConquistadoR]

This implies means Oden's soul makes Enma stronger than what it normally is. Which only supports that Enma as a whole is already more potent than Shisui, and it isnt even a black blade yet like Shisui is.

"The soul that resides in a Katana makes a Samurai strong, and enables him to destroy his enemies."

Where is Oden's haki? Where is Oden's soul making the Katana strong? All I see is inherited will being passed down in a slightly different Wano-themed way.

 

[Black hair]

can sanji win against queen without 3 million power ups?

Complaining about sanji’s power up when zoro got magical/legendary swords for free from his defeat to kuina to this day

BETTER SWORDS MAKE ZORO STRONGER, NOT HIS TRAINING

 

[Rekien]

I'm not comparing, but do you guys think Zoro would be able to scar Kaido WITHOUT Enma? Coherent facts pls

Definely, even the scabbards could hurt Kaido, Zoro still had asura before getting enma.

That said the scar might have been small if he dint had TRAINED with enma.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Zoro did that with all 3 swords using his own haki

But Enma specifically was focused on every time

 

[Peroroncino]

Complaining about sanji’s power up when zoro got magical/legendary swords for free from his defeat to kuina to this day

BETTER SWORDS MAKE ZORO STRONGER, NOT HIS TRAINING

candies already preparing the copium cause oda killed sanji's character

 

[BringMeLeThanos]

This whole thread is about destroying Sanji fans.

 

[Finalbeta]

Hi everyone i'm new here, i just want to say i don't think this development ruins Sanji at all, if anything the irony that Sanji ended up being the super soldier that Judge had wet dreams about but still mantained his emotions is the biggest fuck you to Judge's views on emotions being a weakness and a fuck you to his idiology as a whole, with this move Oda completely destroyed Judge's world view, it's gonna be really intresting the aftermath of all of this.

I think Sanji will probably manage to keep his emotions intact even better than Reiju did. Well Oda would not allow him to become a zombie but I concur this is not exactly the best plot.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Very well explained
Hopefully they will read it

Hopefully so lol i really don't see why so many downplay shusui a black blade is the goal for swordsmen shusui is the strongest blade in its rank just like yoru is the strongest in its rank but any of the other 20 blades in shusui rank can surpass shusui because it cant get any stronger assuming they are all just blades like enma ofcourse and on top of that people want to say zoro cant at the very least replicate his feats on the roof heck he could possibly do even better but oda wanted him to master another blade possibly even making a supreme black blade in the same arc or in the future time will tell

 

[BringMeLeThanos]

But Enma specifically was focused on every time

New sword dude. Same thing happened with Shusui.

 

[Ven437]

Great so now I'm a Zoro hater and a Sanji fan just because I have differing opinions about the quality of Enma vs Shisui?

 

[Finalbeta]

But Enma specifically was focused on every time

That's probably for plot showing.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

New sword dude. Same thing happened with Shusui.

And Shusui was portrayed as a power up just like Enma is.

 

[nRandle]

can sanji win against queen without 3 million power ups?

I'm not comparing Kaido and Queen, it's just a question, would Zoro be able to scar him? Prob no, the scabbards did cut him, but no scar, Zoro being a better swordsman, he wouldn't scar Kaido without enma. Enma is a PU after all.